Graduating from DVD9 to BD25

berdman

After a year of backing up my BD's on 8.5 DL's, I noticed the cost of BD 25's are coming down, so I'm going to try them......Normally I could back up an average BD +/- 20gb on a DVD9 in about 40min to copy 50gb to HD and about 1hr 15m to convert to DVD9 ISO using several different versions of DVDFab so this post is not about a problem with v8087 Qt ..........OK... so I did start off my new method by backing up four of these average size movies and without any compression the time was unbelievably fast, about 30min to copy to HD and the same to convert to 25gb ISO, ....BUT, if I had a 32gb BD and I needed to compress to a 25gb the ISO time shot up to 3+hrs ???? does this seem normal ???

swantzilla

Sorry I cannot help but I also notice that the time has elongated by quite a bit. Almost 2X. I also notice that my six core processor activity does not stay high all the time but pulses about once a second. The activity used to stay high all the time when compressing to a BD25. I am running 8.0.8.7.

sunny

Hi berdman,

To save wear and tear of BD drive and to save time compression, you'd better not compress from the original BD disc to hard drive/blank disc. Please follow the below steps.
1. Copy original BD50 disc to hard drive with Full Disc module, set target size as bd50 in the lower area of main screen;
2. Compress the FullDisc folder (with movie folder in it) to bd 25 size on hard drive with Main Movie module;
3. You will get a mainmovie folder in the target path location, there would be a folder with the movie name on it.
4. Burn this movie folder to blank bd25 disc.

Please check how long this procedure would take.

berdman

1) copy full disc folder using 50gb mode to HD.... 45min

2) compress movie folder only in 25gb mode..... after 45 min shows 2hrs and 20min remaining ( rate of copying process 2.5mb/s ) on a 32gb movie and still haven't created the ISO yet .....quit process

3) decided to split movie into 2 parts using the same folder from above and made the movie using 2 iso's in a total of only 40min it seems any compression really slows done the process.

[QUOTE=sunny;82532]Hi berdman,

To save wear and tear of BD drive and to save time compression, you'd better not compress from the original BD disc to hard drive/blank disc. Please follow the below steps.
1. Copy original BD50 disc to hard drive with Full Disc module, set target size as bd50 in the lower area of main screen;
2. Compress the FullDisc folder (with movie folder in it) to bd 25 size on hard drive with Main Movie module;
3. You will get a mainmovie folder in the target path location, there would be a folder with the movie name on it.
4. Burn this movie folder to blank bd25 disc.

Please check how long this procedure would take.[/QUOTE]

GregiBoy

It does depend on the specs of the computer you are using.

berdman

[QUOTE=GregiBoy;82614]It does depend on the specs of the computer you are using.[/QUOTE]
Here's my system info:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name ERD-PC
System Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model CG5270
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz, 2499 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 0302, 8/10/2009
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name ERD-PC\ERD
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.97 GB
Available Physical Memory 6.01 GB
Total Virtual Memory 15.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 13.9 GB
Page File Space 7.97 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

signals

The speed problem is probably due to a hard drive bottleneck. If you are reading and writing the same drive it will be markedly slower than if you have another drive, say on a USB port. Additional internal drives don't always help if they are on the same controller.

SuperFist

[QUOTE=berdman;82458].BUT, if I had a 32gb BD and I needed to compress to a 25gb the ISO time shot up to 3+hrs ???? does this seem normal ???[/QUOTE]

It's not at all out of the ordinary. I've had some take around 3 hours and you can see my setup in my signature. In my experience, I also found this depends on the actual movie that you're compressing as all of them are not made equally so transcoding can be different for each of them. It also depends on what type of graphics card you have in there and whether it has DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) and/or Compute Unified Device Structure (CUDA)(specifically with Nvidia cards), for which faster encoding is then activated within DVDFab.

berdman

Thanks for your time and info guys...... looks like I'm going to take the easy & fastest way and just split the longer movies when I do my back-ups

unknownbluray

I dont really like compressing the whole movie I prefer just the movie section. The only movies I did a full bd back up were my Transporter Trilogy and each BD took maybe 1hr and 50min for everything If I remember correctly.

Old system (isnt even a yr old and updated)
PNY Verto 210 DDR2 512mb Nvidia video card (Cuda)
AMD Phenom II X4 3.2 Black Edition (stock speed)
Corsair H50 water cooler
6gb 2 gb is Kington 4 gbs generic DDR3 1333
WD 500gb SATA Green
Lite on Blu-ray rom
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner

New set up and not tested yet for BD
PNY Verto 210 DDR2 512 mb (need to upgrade)
AMD Phenom II X6 3.0ghz
Corsair H70 water cooler
G.skill 8gb 1600
WD HDD 500gb SATA Green
WD HDD 2TB SATA Green
Lite on BD Rom
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner

Hoping things get faster with this set up.

singemfrc

[QUOTE=berdman;82615]Here's my system info:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name ERD-PC
System Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model CG5270
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz, 2499 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 0302, 8/10/2009
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name ERD-PC\ERD
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.97 GB
Available Physical Memory 6.01 GB
Total Virtual Memory 15.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 13.9 GB
Page File Space 7.97 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys[/QUOTE]

Yeah, blu ray reencoding is extremely resource intensive. On my old machine with similar specs it used to take me several hours per disc too, plus the cpu cores would run at alarmingly high temperatures. One of the main reasons I spent as much as I did on my new machine was so that it could reencode blu ray video more efficiently. I now do reencodes in 30-40 minutes on this machine. (6-Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz, 16GB Ram, GeForce GTX 645)

^ GPU makes a difference now too since DVDFab makes use of it.