[QUOTE=glenns;134309]Evt: I recommended you get a new media player because their are many advanced 3d models out their and maybe one may meet most or all of your needs.
I have A Mecca they have 2 models that do 3d and stream.I have no trouble with using fabs 3d folders or iso's made with fab,no issues with compressed 3d files or side by side fab made files and no trouble with converted by fab 3d folders into smaller sizes or other containers.No Cinavia trouble.
I have regular dvds and blu ray dvds with hd sound and 7.1 sound i just don't have a problem nor do i here anyone complaining about Fab made files and their media player except for the bugs in the fab program that turn up every now and then but they normally get fixed.
I have almost every 3d movie made (198) and fab made them all and they play with my media player.Their all on a 3t hard drive in m2ts side by side format reduced to about 8gigs each with full hd sound some with 7.1 surround sound.Some i left at full resolution full 3d and a few in 25gig full 3d all play like new.Some are in folders most are iso's all fab made.:)
Now streaming i have no reason for nor sub titles so that part of my media player doesn't get used by me so i can't tell you about it but if you take the time to look at the internet sight you can get the details.
I do know it won't play all blu-rays menus but it has its own simple menu.You paid for a expensive blu ray player that can't get the job done you want with 3d files and cinavia and you don't seem to want to try to make side by sides in folder and iso formats to try to see if they work on one or the other the way i just told you about.I say lets go to the manual and see what can these devices handle and what they can't as this normally tells a great deal.
I did what i can for you.I don't like every feature of my media player theirs been about 5 updates in firmware to it and only a older update lights up my hd dts and Dolby digital light in my receiver all the other updates have the hd sound but it gets converted to pcm channels like the Sony play-station did at first so i use it with the older firmware i like.Others use the latest and greatest cause it provides features i don't use, bug fixes etc. so for each his own.
In my humble opinion i would try the side by side formats or spend the $140 for a new player that's all i can say.Good luck.:)[/QUOTE]
Hey glenns,
I do appreciate the feedback and let me say wow (198 3d titles!). As someone who has a very large collection of blu-ray's I didn't even know there were 198 3D titles available (at least not on blu-ray). I noticed you listed all the different types of ISO and folder rips you created - can you double check if any of them are uncompressed 3D BDMV folders - if one of them is then that would answer my question as that's what I have my doubts about.
In any case, I though I would share with you and others some of my observations concerning media players and playback of 3D blu-rays in different formats. Also, for any other users who might have knowledge on the issue - please share whether you have been been able to playback an uncompressed 3D BDMV folder (full disc or main movie - it doesn't matter) on either a hardware of software player as a native BDMV folder (i.e. without mounting the mini iso)?
Observations re: Side-by-Side blu-ray copy:
As far as creating a side-by-side blu-ray is concerned, this format works reasonably except that it doesn't create 3D subtitles so I would say that side-by-side MKV using DVDFab 3D ripper is probably a better option.
Although I don't know what happens if you apply compression (as I have no real desire to compress my blu-rays'). Essentially, when you start playback before you manually or your media player automatically triggers the side-by-side 2D image to be merged into a single 3D image subtitles will appear centered on your screen as they should. However, once the two images are merged into a 3D image the subtitles will be split and pushed to opposite sides of the screen making them unreadable.
While subtitles are not in general needed by most of us - we all need forced subtitles that are present for parts of a high percentage of movies (e.g. to understand the Navi spoken parts in Avatar). In that light, blu-ray SBS is not useable for all discs whereas 3D SBS MKV is.
Blu-Ray BDMV/ISO:
Personally, I don't think any of the 3D media players out there right now are acceptable for uncompressed blu-ray as a significant percentage of blu-ray's have seamless branching and forced subtitles which players that only support bd-lite (all new players since they avoid a blu-ray license so that Cinavia is not required) cannot playback properly - e.g. forced subtitles would not be turned on by default in Avatar and movies such as those by Pixar which are split into many files will have pauses between chapters as the player switches to the next file. So as far as BD ISO/BDMV all new players (the only players that support 3D in a BD ISO/BDMV folder) are to my mind unacceptable.
Solutions:
A media player that will play all 3D blu-rays uncompressed without issue is not really out there yet (that I know of anyway). Given Cinavia doesn't look like it's going away the solution will likely be a player that supports MVC in an MKV and also supports forced subtitles. I believe there is one player that supports MVC in an MKV (but I can't recall the name at the moment) but it doesn't support forced subtitles.
For the moment, only a 1.4 HDMI PC with a 3D player pre-dating Cinavia will playback all 3D blu-ray ISOs without issue (that is if you're lucky enough to get an HTPC working without any bugs - not an insignificant task). For others using a hardware media player, I would suggest 3D SBS in an MKV as created by 3D ripper, it does apply compression but you can set the bit rate rather high and it deal with forced subtitles correctly.
