Sorry for another new thread about BD blanks. I have been interested in doing BD for some time and I'm finally making the plunge on media. I have read many threads and have made some observations. Everyone has an opinion on media and I know that many drives out there are picky as to the media they like. I am also concerned about the lifetime of disc's as seen in the BD lifetime thread. So here it is... I have an LG WH14NS40 and I'm guessing that Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R Blu-ray Disc Model OQBDR04LT will work as well as certain Verbatim like the Verbatim 25GB 6X BD-R 25 Packs Spindle Disc Model 97457. I don't think either of these are LTH which I'm not ready to experiment with yet but I'm looking for suggestions. Most importantly I'm looking for great pricing. Less than $1 disk preferably after shipping. I know Newegg has had some deals in the past but the best I can find is a 50 pack of Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R Blu-ray Disc Model OQBDR04LT-50 for 39.99 + 4.99 shipping. Anyone seen any hot deals on 25 packs of good solid 25GB media? Thanks

I've done well with Ritek 4x inkjet printable BD-R media. No burning problems and no later playback problems or failures so far. I've gotten them from Newegg, Meritline & Fry's. They are frequently on sale for less than $1 per disc in 25 or 50 packages (the last batch of 50 I bought for less than $44 - shipped including sales tax). I've also used Imation inkjet printable media with no issues - but they were actually Ritek 4x BD-R media also.

I have an LG WH?? Blu-Ray Burner and I've used Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R Blu-ray Disc's for about 3 years without issue. (previous Burner was Sony). All I do know, is that Ritex disks are crap. Cheap and non-dependable. Check out Newegg... They typically sell the Optical Quantium for 26.99 for 25 pk, but if you watch, they will have them on sale for 16.99....

Ritec (Memorex) disks won't burn in a lot of drives including my Pioneer drive.My best disks so far are the Digistor in 25G about $1.00 each and 50g about $4.50 each they are rated at 6x but can burn at 10x in my drive but fast burning isn't recommended for blurays so i burn at 4x and never had a coaster using hundreds over the years.Their made by TDK (MID: TDKBLD-RBD-000)

The OQ's are solid and Amazon has them a little cheaper than Newegg right now. Remember though, you need to keep the firmware on the drive up to date for the best results.

[QUOTE=dcc1048;136173]I have an LG WH?? Blu-Ray Burner and I've used Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R Blu-ray Disc's for about 3 years without issue. (previous Burner was Sony). All I do know, is that Ritex disks are crap. Cheap and non-dependable. Check out Newegg... They typically sell the Optical Quantium for 26.99 for 25 pk, but if you watch, they will have them on sale for 16.99....[/QUOTE] Thanks dcc1048. I followed your last post regarding the OQ BD-R discs and started my research off that. I was looking at recent reviews on the discs you recommended and it seems like they fell drastically. Comments have been made about the disc quality getting thinner and more coasters. They say the coating is no longer purple. Now I'm worried about ordering these online and they were my #1 pick. Have you ordered any recently? One review said they are now calling them "Optical Quantum value" on the package.

When I was burnning disc(now media player) I used Verbatim BD-R, x6 non htl or lth and never had a coaster or bad burn! They would burn at 6x with no problems! I used ImgBurn to burn the disc!:)

[QUOTE=dcc1048;136173]All I do know, is that Ritex disks are crap. Cheap and non-dependable. Check out Newegg... They typically sell the Optical Quantium for 26.99 for 25 pk, but if you watch, they will have them on sale for 16.99....[/QUOTE]All I can say is . . I have been using Ritek 4x inkjet printable media for quite some time in my Lite-On iHBS112 burner with 100% burning success and reliable playback afterwards. And older burned media has worked just fine whenever I have used or tested them.

[QUOTE=Rich86;136258]All I can say is . . I have been using Ritek 4x inkjet printable media for quite some time in my Lite-On iHBS112 burner with 100% burning success and reliable playback afterwards. And older burned media has worked just fine whenever I have used or tested them.[/QUOTE] Same here. I have over 3000 movies burned on Ritek(both Blu-ray and DVD). I have had zero problems. Movies from as far back as 2002 play just fine. My children have played some of them over and over and they have a lot of scratches and still play fine. If you burn them slow with Image Burn or other reputable burning software, they work perfectly. Also you can`t beat the price.

I think this has to do with the brands of drives out their and what their firmware works with.Some firmware updates allow the drives to work with different disks. I have seen my Pioneer drive go from working to a few brands of disks to most disks.Some seller internet sights tell what disks work with what drives and at what speeds.I think all drive company's should tell you this also before you buy their drives so you will know and not have to make coasters. Also Ritec can make different quality of disks sometimes a 4 x disk will work in a drive but only if you burn at 2.5 speed and I seen one type of disk like inkjet printable disks work in some drives but the same drive won't burn their regular disks or the cheap Memorex disks made by ritec. My Pioneer 12X drive burns optimum gold (8x) 8.5 gig disks but only at 2.5 burn speed at one time they burned at 10x but now I can only get 2.5 x out of their gold disks and i couldn't play their silver disks at all. I think they changed to a cheaper disk or their manufacture changes and makes them different..So their are going to be different results with different disks and drives and also burning speeds. To sum it up you need to see what works in your drive and what speeds then hope they don't change disk manufactures.I solved this problem by using a media player so I don't have to burn any disks anymore it also solves the Fox Cinavia problem.

I just don't want my first BD blank purchase to be a waste of money. Not looking for anymore coasters in my life. I have burned over 1000 Verbatim DVD+R (MCC-004-00) discs with not one coaster. Their quality has always been excellent. I have heard many mixed reviews on the Verbatim BD-R disc's and even worse reviews of their LTH disc's. I had heard excellent reviews on the Optical Quantum 4x disc's again until recently when reviews started indicating that they had changed the disc's and they were more flimsy and packaging changes started saying "Value" on them.. Do you think this is due to the 6x disc's being out now by the same company at a higher price? Now the 4x are value???

Best quality BD-R Blanks?

dcc1048

Hey chaostoday,
I have never had any issues with them, both on a Sony burner and now on LG burners. I have the DVD Fab Write setting at 4X, even tho my burner is 6X. The slower, the better.. I can altho don't use the 2X speed..

No issues tho on Optimum discs at all tho, wheter they are 4X or 6X. As long as you have the burner write setting within your disk speed requirement, it doesn't matter.

I don't know what the glenns is talking about with backward writing... it is a mute point if your settings are set up so they won't try to write faster than the disk will allow... Verbatim disks are very good, but they are priced higher. I have used Verbatim both as a regular DVD copy (always) and have tried the Blu-Ray disks as well. Just a higher price, and I have had a couple coasters on Verbatim disks back when I had a Sony burner.......Bought for their sale price 1 time and tried, then went back to Optimum 100%.

NewEgg is classic to put disks on sale for 1 week, then off until they replenish their stock. I have learned to get them in quantity when they are on sale, but if you aren't sure, or you have never tired them, then don't go crazy until you feel comfortable with them..

glenns

BD-R LTH (Low To High) for those talking about LTH disks as in post #11 this is why theirs trouble with these disks on older blu ray players & recorders.

BD-R LTH is a write-once Blu-ray disc format that features an organic dye recording layer. "Low To High" refers to the reflectivity changing from low to high during the burning process, which is the opposite of normal. The advantage of BD-R LTH is it can protect a manufacturer's investment in DVD-R/CD-R manufacturing equipment. Only modifications are required to current equipment; no investment in new production lines is required. It is believed this can lower the cost of disc manufacturing.

Old Blu-ray players and recorders cannot utilize BD-R LTH; however, a firmware upgrade can enable devices to access BD-R LTH.

trashmon

chaostoday,
I'm throwin' in with the votes for Verbatim. Used a lot of these discs over the years in LG, Sony, Pioneer and Brand X burners, with more than acceptable fail rates. Any failure is an expensive thing, but there is a rate that most people can accept. If you're interested, Amazon has verbatim inkjet-writable 50gb 4x discs in a 50-disc spindle for $143. Less than $3 a disc, who knew??? I remember spending $12 for one (when they finally came down to a price that wasn't pornographic).

hanibal

why not burn them to a hd and no disks?

chaostoday

[QUOTE=dcc1048;136795]Hey chaostoday,
I have never had any issues with them, both on a Sony burner and now on LG burners. I have the DVD Fab Write setting at 4X, even tho my burner is 6X. The slower, the better.. I can altho don't use the 2X speed..

No issues tho on Optimum discs at all tho, wheter they are 4X or 6X. As long as you have the burner write setting within your disk speed requirement, it doesn't matter.

I don't know what the glenns is talking about with backward writing... it is a mute point if your settings are set up so they won't try to write faster than the disk will allow... Verbatim disks are very good, but they are priced higher. I have used Verbatim both as a regular DVD copy (always) and have tried the Blu-Ray disks as well. Just a higher price, and I have had a couple coasters on Verbatim disks back when I had a Sony burner.......Bought for their sale price 1 time and tried, then went back to Optimum 100%.

NewEgg is classic to put disks on sale for 1 week, then off until they replenish their stock. I have learned to get them in quantity when they are on sale, but if you aren't sure, or you have never tired them, then don't go crazy until you feel comfortable with them..[/QUOTE]

Thank you Dcc1048!!! Again, you are very wise. The Optimum have burned well. I'm 3 for 3 so far with zero coasters! I'm very happy and excited. I agree with everything you said regarding disc quality and burning with proper settings and speeds.
I was surprised to know that my 3 discs have apparently burned with the VSO burning engine. My Imgburn normally launches when I make a back-up of a DVD but when making a Blu-Ray Imgburn doesn't launch. Weird but maybe not to you.... Thanks again

babyboy

I have to say in my experience Ritek is a good overall brand that is useable anywhere really problem with them they don't hold the info for very long. After a year for some reason it can't read the discs. Now Verbatim on the other hand is a very very good quality disc. It not only burns and has no burn failures with them but they also hold the info for a very long time. I've had some for over 5 years now without ever missing any info. Hope this helps.

chaostoday

[QUOTE=trashmon;136849]chaostoday,
I'm throwin' in with the votes for Verbatim. Used a lot of these discs over the years in LG, Sony, Pioneer and Brand X burners, with more than acceptable fail rates. Any failure is an expensive thing, but there is a rate that most people can accept. If you're interested, Amazon has verbatim inkjet-writable 50gb 4x discs in a 50-disc spindle for $143. Less than $3 a disc, who knew??? I remember spending $12 for one (when they finally came down to a price that wasn't pornographic).[/QUOTE]

Thanks trashmon. I love verbatim but will stick with the less expensive 25GB Optical Quantum disc's while they work. 50gb disc's are still a little too rich for my blood. Not to mention time consuming to burn. Compression is fine for my Back-ups right now. Just trying to keep the kids from destroying my good originals

chaostoday

[QUOTE=babyboy;137021]I have to say in my experience Ritek is a good overall brand that is useable anywhere really problem with them they don't hold the info for very long. After a year for some reason it can't read the discs. Now Verbatim on the other hand is a very very good quality disc. It not only burns and has no burn failures with them but they also hold the info for a very long time. I've had some for over 5 years now without ever missing any info. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Good info. Since I'm new to Blu- ray this is an excellent comment you have made. I know there is a sticky about disc life in this forum. I would love to know if Dcc1048 or any other member has had extended disc life or short life from the Optical Quantum's. I know I will be very upset to put these movies in a year from now to have my player(s) not read them.....:mad:

CBR929

Hi chaostoday
You might find this thread helpful
CBR929

chaostoday

[QUOTE=CBR929;137025]Hi chaostoday
You might find this thread helpful
CBR929[/QUOTE]

Thanks CBR929! You always come through. This is the thread I mentioned in post #28. I just needed to read through it completely as I have now. Real good info on the OQ disc's. I have some info on the new ones I'm using from Newegg. Imgburn shows them as LGEBRA-S06-000
This is the OQBDR06LT-25. UPC 842378003746 from Newegg

chaostoday

This is the Disc info I received from Nero DiscSpeed:
Nero DiscSpeed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : BD-R
MID : LGEBRAS06 (000)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X - 10 X - 12 X
Blank Capacity : 22.56 GB
: 23098 MB
: 24220008448 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 44 49 01 20 00 00 62 00 42 44 52 01 12 01 00 00 - DI....b.BDR.....
0010 - 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 19 4E 7E - ..............N~
0020 - 01 EC 64 64 28 28 28 28 1E 1E 1E 1E 00 00 00 00 - ..dd((((........
0030 - 58 75 6C 04 04 36 1E 89 70 F8 F8 F8 F8 F0 F0 F0 - Xul..6..p.......
0040 - F0 00 00 00 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 - .....@.@.@.@.@.@
0050 - 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 40 00 60 60 B0 - .@.@.@.@.@.@.``.
0060 - B8 B4 00 00 4C 47 45 42 52 41 53 30 36 00 00 00 - ....LGEBRAS06...

ImgBurn basically tells the same story with less detail.
Anybody know anything about these disc's? If you look at my Post #6 I mentioned that these disc's have received some new feedback and that they have changed. It appears they have. Is this a good change or a bad one??:confused:

dcc1048

Good info. Since I'm new to Blu- ray this is an excellent comment you have made. I kn

NOPE----Like I said previously, no issues... and I have re-watched movies tghat I copied 2 years ago..

Rich86

[QUOTE=chaostoday;137023]Good info. Since I'm new to Blu- ray this is an excellent comment you have made. I know there is a sticky about disc life in this forum. I would love to know if Dcc1048 or any other member has had extended disc life or short life from the Optical Quantum's. I know I will be very upset to put these movies in a year from now to have my player(s) not read them.....:mad:[/QUOTE]

Ritek gets bashed constantly in here because of a bad run of DVD-R media released a fair number of years ago. Most other manufacturers have put out defective product at one time or other as well, including Verbatim. But bashing Ritek and pushing media players seems to be a favorite pastime in these forums.
My personal experience is that Ritek BD-R media has been excellent (100% burning reliability and 100% playback reliability over a number of years). And I actually use them . . a lot! But, to each his own.

dcc1048

Obviously, disk life can pertain to how you store them also. Never any issues with OQ's. I tried Ritek about 2.5 years ago. Ended up throwing them away. Don't have enough friends to use all the coasters I made with them....

Rich86

[QUOTE=dcc1048;137410]Obviously, disk life can pertain to how you store them also. Never any issues with OQ's. I tried Ritek about 2.5 years ago. Ended up throwing them away. Don't have enough friends to use all the coasters I made with them....[/QUOTE]

That's unfortunate. Of course it could have been a bad run of media, bad burner, poor software, the critter at the keyboard, etc. Many of us do just fine with Ritek media. My Ritek BD-R media has been 100% reliable using a Lite-On burner & Imgburn.

Jerrinfla

Not so thrilled with Optical Quantum

I thought they were the cat's meow for quite a few spindles, but I just cracked open a spindle of fifty and found a disk that was not even recognized as media.
Examining the writing surface of the disk made it obvious as to why it wasn't recognized. There were a few bubbles easily visible on the surface itself. Like it would look if a drop of crazy glue was deposited on the surface and allowed to dry. These didn't clean off, and close examination made it obvious that the bubble looking defects occurred during the manufacturing process.
Good luck to you with your OP disks. Nero also identified mine as Phillips.
This really saddens me. It seems like manufacturers make great disk for a bit and then chisel too much $ from their bottom line and stick you with garbage.
Currently I'm using:
Memorex for CDR
Verbatim for DVD 5
Memorex for BD 25
with no issues. But I'm always doing so with my fingers crossed. lol

Verbatim is the only brand that has maintained consistancy for me in DVD 5, though they did introduce some cheaper DVD 5 that did not work well for me at all, though the ones with azo dyes were always perfect.

Memorex always made CDs that were absolutely outstanding for me, and their Blu-Ray 25s have not given me any trouble whatsoever.

MERX2006

amazon.com 50gb $25.17 10 pack

the Optical Quantum Glossy BD-R DL white inkjet printable. The 10 pack for $25.17 is a very good recording media & white inkjet printable. The blanks are not glossy and will take an extra several minute to dry. Forget about the watershield glossy effect of the Taiyo Yuden but a good 50 gb blank.

My PC & printer have completed over 50 copies without a coaster.

AMAZON.COM USA

SuperFist

Optical Quantum 2 years and running now with no problems whatsoever!

hanibal

Just bput the movies on a hd and play it of a media player. No disks at all!!

8855A

Hanibal,

Smart man! Thats the new future! I built my first pc Dec 2012, burned about 10 blu-rays and thats it! Got me an AIOS media player, been loving it and can keep adding my hdd's bay in closers!

I got a sony dl burnner, pioneer blu-ray burnner! Don't burn anything!:)

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