Thor the Dark World Forced Subtitles

Maiisoh

I've tried everything I know to rip Thor The Dark World so that it will show forced subtitles (English) especially when the dark elf talks in his native language (Chapter 6). I have "Display only forced subtitles" turned on, I've tried it with only the first English subtitle chosen, only the second English subtitle chosen, and the same with only the third English subtitle chosen. I even tried it with only the first and second chosen, the second and third chosen, and all three chosen. Still no forced subtitle for this forced subtitle. Works perfectly when playing the Blu-ray. Any help would be appreciated.

signals

I have noticed the font for the "elvish" translations looks odd, sort of like the Navi translations in Avatar, may be the same sort of issue. The QA Team will check it for us on Monday.

signals

The translations are in the third (bottom) English sub stream by themselves. I am trying several combinations of settings to get them to render into the video and they will not so far.

CBR929

Hi Maiisoh
Please try using the latest version of Fab, also the internal log for this movie, the log you posted is for The Time Machine...;)
CBR929

signals

The translation subs don't appear, but the devs have the disc now and will get it sorted quickly.

Wilson.Wang

I tried to play the 2d & 3d source "Thor the Dark World" on PowerDVD and TMT, the subtitle does not show after turn off the subtitle. Maybe the subtitle is not the forced subtitle just in the subtitle stream of itself.

Wilson

signals

This is my suspicion also, but it still should render to video in Ripper; it shows in the Fab Preview window when the stream is selected but does not render to video regardless of the setting of Display Only Forced.

Nik_Simpson

Same problem here

I ended up creating them manually by:
1. Finding a copy that somebody else had create on opensubtitles.org, sadly this was out of sync with my rip so I used it as template
2. Extract the full english subtitles then edit them to leave only the the Elvish bits

If anybody wants the srt file, PM me.

signals

Summary: The subs in this title are not forced, so if you select Display Only Forced, nothing will appear. Select the third (lowest) English subs stream in Ripper, but do NOT select Only Forced. You must also de-select Only Forced if you have it selected in DVDFab Settings (Settings->Conversion->Convert, top box). The above applies to the Region A?US version of the disc, yours may not be identically authored.

Maiisoh

[QUOTE=signals;159489]Summary: The subs in this title are not forced, so if you select Display Only Forced, nothing will appear. Select the third (lowest) English subs stream in Ripper, but do NOT select Only Forced. You must also de-select Only Forced if you have it selected in DVDFab Settings (Settings->Conversion->Convert, top box). The above applies to the Region A?US version of the disc, yours may not be identically authored.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Signals. I will give it a try tonight. Sorry about the wrong log file. Didn't realize that I had an old log file there.

signals

Please share your results. I have attached a capture of some of the translation subs from a test MP4 I made.

Be aware also that investigating this issue turned up a bug in BD Ripper that in some cases will cause subs not to render correctly if only a single chapter or range of chapters is selected. Not a problem if you do not change from the default of all chapters included. This will be fixed and some other features added in the future to make dealing with subs a little more predictable.

Maiisoh

Just ripped it. The alien subtitles came through perfectly. Thanks for your help in resolving this.

signals

Glad to hear it, thanks for letting everyone know.

Quige

Hello, thanks for the instructions on turning off the forced subtitles only. Had been driving me mad!

Just a note, I have the UK release that has the 3D and standard versions included (BUY0215701). On trying to rip the standard 2d version DVDFab seems to select a stream or source (not sure if that is the correct term) that starts with someone saying 'left rear, left surround' before proceeding as normal. Under the chapter column it says 18. Think it is Title 800. I found that if I selected a different source lower down (Title 804), this wasn't there.

Also on the subtitles here there are only 2 listed English of which as you say the lower seems to be the one with the Dark Elves speech in.

With this set up I still get the Dark Elf speech subtitled as far in as the scene where the Kursed is created that goes to Asgard (33 min in). Not sure if there is any more after this.

Nik_Simpson

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With this set up I still get the Dark Elf speech subtitled as far in as the scene where the Kursed is created that goes to Asgard (33 min in). Not sure if there is any more after this.

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There are additional Elvish subtitles around 53, 68, and 75 minutes...

23
00:53:07,018 --> 00:53:11,022
Heal. You will need your strength to reclaim the Aether.

24
00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:15,109
And when you wake, we will kill them all.

25
01:08:21,056 --> 01:08:24,393
We must strike now.

26
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:26,436
No.

27
01:08:28,063 --> 01:08:33,694
Asgard is meaningless.

28
01:08:37,906 --> 01:08:39,825
The Aether has found its way home.

29
01:15:05,502 --> 01:15:07,754
He is an enemy of Asgard.

30
01:15:07,837 --> 01:15:10,590
He was a prisoner in their dungeons.

Quige

Thanks, yes got them in there as well. I could remember the scene where they were talking about healing at 00:53 but couldn't find where it was.

mycom

Still can't get subtitles to work on Thor - The Dark World

I am doing it on the DVD version. I have used both Versions 8.2.3.0 and 9.1.3.3. When using 8.2.3.0, most of the subtitles come out. For example, if he speaks twice, only the first line is viewable. When I try doing 9.1.3.3, I get absolutely no subtitles. Please let me know what I'm doing wrong and if I have to send any file to help figure out why it's not working.

gbk33

I was having the same issue and signals tutorial worked perfectly! Thanks signals

signals

Glad that it worked for you gbk33, sorry I do not currently have the DVD version of this title since it was not included in the combo pack. I will try to find it locally and check the sub authoring on it also for mycom and others.

signals

Thor 2 DVD forced subs

mycom and others:

I found the DVD. The stream you want to use to duplicate the theater experience is the second or lower English stream which is marked "English forced". You can put a check in the Display Only Forced box, but it is not really necessary, since the only subs in that stream are the forced ones. Just select that one sub stream only and select Direct Render to Video on the Advanced Settings page, at the bottom. Note that there are only 42 subs in this stream, so some some non-English dialogue may not have been provided with a translation. The first one appears at about 29 minutes into the movie.