A few tips on this new setting which you will find in DVDFab's DVD and Blu-ray Ripper modules:The new setting is Fast speed (under Encoding Method).This is a choice that will reduce conversion time and output size dramatically, but there is no free lunch, the video quality is not as good as what is available with the other settings.A 2+hour h264 Blu-ray will require about 2 hours to convert, less on some PCs, more on others. The title Snowpiercer was a little over 500 MB in size with 2-channel AAC audio. If you want the smallest file size, you will need to re-encode the audio, not pass through the multichannel stream (it will be 4X the size of the video in some cases!)On a few systems, you may need to reboot your PC after installing v9.1.7.3 Beta for the new setting to work correctly.Acceptable Source types are original disc, HDD folder or ISO (as for all other Fab Copy-Ripper modules).Note that this is also available in DVD Ripper, producing an output file of about 188 MB for a complete 105 minute movie.It is free to anyone with a DVD or Blu-ray Ripper license.Note also that the DVDFab h265 options include user adjustable CRF encoding.This is a new setting on a fairly new feature (h265 HEVC) so I will leave this thread open for user feedback or questions. Please share your results so the developers can fine tune if necessary.

Okay here are my initial results. Originally I did not read the above instructions, I set the Ripper to HEVC H265.mp4 and lowered the resolution to 1280X720 but I did not change the audio to ACC , surprisingly enough the movie Battle LosAngles finished in a bit under 2 hours, with excellent quality but the file was 1.65gbs even though the indicator on the Fab Ripper was at 887mbs. So now that I know that the audio file has to be changed, I am doing another encode. The below pictures are from my initial tests

Okay I changed the audio to AAC or AC3 and then the res to the 1280 area and then Fast Speed, make sure you are on HEVC H265 .mp4 or .mkv ( great quality) now the file size is 455mbs and the quality is superb, remember this quality is great for mobile and computer screens but not Entertainment Centers. The only thing I would like to see is a preset in the resolution drop downbox in Advanced settings in the Ripper to 1280X720 which is the perfect res for H265.;) Other than that Congrats on job well done, I might just buy another DVD Fab.:D:D Living in St Maarten has its advantages.;)

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My findings are with encoding method set for fast encoding.For all the video quality settings below using the H265 MKV profile set to keep the hd audio as that's why we buy blu rays for better picture and sound in my line of thinking. Fast speed video quality gives a picture that's good for small 5-10 inch screen sizes it gives the smallest file size and quickest conversion time but the video is not good for tv sizes you will see artifacts if used on tv's. conclusion: I feel the standard setting so close to blu ray that to save file size and conversion time this setting should be used for blu rays keeping hd sound also.The file size is bigger but these setting reproduce what a blu ray should be in my eyes and ear's on a big screen tv. I did my testing on a I-7 computer 8 gigs of memory using quick sync for video decoding. It would be nice if Fab came up with a video encoding speed up program for H265 as conversion speed still needs improving.I can't see people with slower computers using this as it is now except for the fast speed small screen stuff. Memory used was about 3.5 gigs always under 4 gigs.Also theirs no full 3d profile format to use with it only side by side 3d formats.FPS not listed they go up and down during conversion. I also made a 3d side by side using high quality h265 mkv it reduced a 3d version of the movie Nurse main movie 23.161gigs to 2.92 gigs but takes about 1/2 hour longer to convert than the 2d version.also couldn't tell the difference from a good full 3d blu ray.

Post #1 has been updated with some new information. Surge, your post was edited to keep it relevant to this thread. As noted previously, the Fast Speed setting is not designed for real TVs, but it is perfect for smartphones and tablets.

[QUOTE=signals;169249]Post #1 has been updated with some new information. Surge, your post was edited to keep it relevant to this thread. As noted previously, the Fast Speed setting is not designed for real TVs, but it is perfect for smartphones and tablets.[/QUOTE] and why would you want to keep HD sound for a smartphone or a tablet? It makes no sense. I have used it with AAC and AC3 sound, the file is small and the quality is so good its great up to 27".

Lightning Recoding I am in the Common Settings and can't find "Fast Speed".I did find Lightning-Recording under Common Settings > A/V Codec but it was not enabled.I just want to make sure it is not selected. I do not care how long the rip takes I want the highest audio and video quality possible. Is there a setting for that?Thanks

FOR H265 the setting for Fast speed-Normal and others is in advanced settings on the left side when a movie is loaded into the fab program.

Tips for new h265 Settings

AcIDc0r3

Since video quality is very subjective, I would suggest making a short conversion (using the chapter range selection in DVDFab) using the different settings to see if the smaller/faster setting is adequate for your needs. For the testing, select a chapter that is stressful to convert, i..e. one with lots of fast motion and fine detail. You can also experiment this way with smaller output screen sizes, such as 1280xX or 1024xX, which your player will upscale on the fly to 1920x1080 or whatever your display requires. This will have huge savings in conversion time and output file size if the video still looks OK to you.
signals

I've tried changing the quality from High Quality to Standard and it didn't change anything. There's not really any high speed since it's 8 seasons of Dexter and 6 seasons of The Sopranos. I'm also not trying to upscale either. It's 1920x1080 and I'm just keeping it like that instead of recoding to a different aspect ratio. It just seems like the Cuda cores can't compress as well as libebml + libmatroska. Not sure what else I can do?

Godzilla62

I've been around for a long time and have enjoyed using DVDFAB for bluray ripping, Current Version 11.0.1.4

I need to keep encoding speed up since I have 200+ bluray's I want to put on my media server, have older H264 rips that need re-encoded.

Lately have upgraded video card to GTX 960 to do hardware H265 encoding/decoding

With H265 I am getting lots of blocking in darker areas even under a 2 pass high quality encode with hardware encoding / decoding ( is this because of the video card hardware encoding?)
Any Ideas on still using hardware encoding with H265 and blocking issue?

When I do H264 2 pass (hardware) no blocking file size only a little bigger, especially since I pass through DTS

10 Bit H264 video quality is awesome, but not hardware encoding so only getting about 55fps / CRF 35fps 2 pass. H264 8 bit hardware gives me 130fps
From Nvidia's specs the GTX-960 should encode 10 bit.H264 in hardware. (Not supported yet?)

One other issue is that I can select DTS audio with H264 but that is missing on H265,

Thanks

october262

I've been around for a long time and have enjoyed using DVDFAB for bluray ripping, Current Version 11.0.1.4

I need to keep encoding speed up since I have 200+ bluray's I want to put on my media server, have older H264 rips that need re-encoded.

Lately have upgraded video card to GTX 960 to do hardware H265 encoding/decoding

With H265 I am getting lots of blocking in darker areas even under a 2 pass high quality encode with hardware encoding / decoding ( is this because of the video card hardware encoding?)
Any Ideas on still using hardware encoding with H265 and blocking issue?

When I do H264 2 pass (hardware) no blocking file size only a little bigger, especially since I pass through DTS

10 Bit H264 video quality is awesome, but not hardware encoding so only getting about 55fps / CRF 35fps 2 pass. H264 8 bit hardware gives me 130fps
From Nvidia's specs the GTX-960 should encode 10 bit.H264 in hardware. (Not supported yet?)

One other issue is that I can select DTS audio with H264 but that is missing on H265,

Thanks
Godzilla62

first make sure that you are using the latest driver update for your graphics card.
also please post the dvdfab internal log files.

Mona

I've been around for a long time and have enjoyed using DVDFAB for bluray ripping, Current Version 11.0.1.4

I need to keep encoding speed up since I have 200+ bluray's I want to put on my media server, have older H264 rips that need re-encoded.

Lately have upgraded video card to GTX 960 to do hardware H265 encoding/decoding

With H265 I am getting lots of blocking in darker areas even under a 2 pass high quality encode with hardware encoding / decoding ( is this because of the video card hardware encoding?)
Any Ideas on still using hardware encoding with H265 and blocking issue?

When I do H264 2 pass (hardware) no blocking file size only a little bigger, especially since I pass through DTS

10 Bit H264 video quality is awesome, but not hardware encoding so only getting about 55fps / CRF 35fps 2 pass. H264 8 bit hardware gives me 130fps
From Nvidia's specs the GTX-960 should encode 10 bit.H264 in hardware. (Not supported yet?)
Godzilla62

Hi Godzilla62,

1. Does this "blocking in darker areas" problem happen to every different Blu-ray sources? Please list some common one, so that we can find the same one to test it out .
2. Please post dvdfab_internal.log file and fabcheck_internal.log file.

One other issue is that I can select DTS audio with H264 but that is missing on H265,

More information is needed, maybe related screenshots? Thanks in advance.

Godzilla62

I'm using Ghost Busters Answer The Call, you just need first chapter or 2, Most Blu-Rays, movies with lots of action not as apparent, I'll clear out the log file later this evening and regenerate. I've updated the Nvidia drivers. Also I'm displaying this on a 55" Hisense TV, not as apparent on smaller screens. 96+ pro andriod box playback. But seen blocks on computer screen also using movie player classic 321.

I guess it's a bug fix, but ripper used to only use your physical cores now I can use all 24 threads. Converting H264 10bit at 1600x? 100fps good results as a work around. Seems the extra color makes up for loss of pixels and size.

Godzilla62

Log Files Attached

Godzilla62

Left side of screen shot all blocky, 2 pass high quality H265

Godzilla62

One other issue is that I can select DTS audio with H264 but that is missing on H265,
Screen shots for H264, H265, H264 10 Bit, DTS audio option missing on H265, H264 10 Bit

Godzilla62

Other Software is using the option --aq-mode 3 (is biased for dark scenes) when using ffmpeg with h265. The other software is cumbersome, have to de-encrypt bluray, then run software. 2 step process.

Godzilla62

After much testing I was able to reduce most of the blockyness using the nvenc hardware encoder using more cumbersome software.
Options that seem to affect dark areas

-aq (Adaptive Quantization)
-aq-strength 12 (Default 8)

More testing needs to be done, but I've tried all nvenc encoding methods and this is the only thing that has yielded results.

FYI, the GTX 960 does not support 10 bit H265 hardware encoding, but 10 bit kills my Android box, it can't do hardware either.

It would be nice if we could manipulate some of nvenc options in DVDFab

Godzilla62

Someone has also reported blockyness issue NVENC (H265) with Nvidia, Nvidia has generated bug report,but it has been 6 months

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1033976/video-codec-sdk/nvenc-quality-blocky-amp-jumpy-blacks/

I've played around with CQ mode high quality with CQ settings of i19 p23 b25 while encoding Thor with only a couple of areas of blotchyness Encoding Frame rate was above 150, I don't know of a way to set individual frame CQ parameters in DVDFab. I still had aq mode set, but not sure if it has any affect while using CQ mode.

Funny thing I encoded The Last Jedi and it looked horrible, in desperation I set the aq-strength to 2 and it came out good, Go figure.

I also have MV precision set to qpel

Godzilla62

I've been reading and learning, ordered a Nvidia GTX 1060 3Gb Model. Pascal vs Maxwell architecture of the 960. See if any difference with DVDFab. Hopefully better compression and background (less blocking).
I've also stumbled across another post where the person was using the edge level detection, this has yielded good results on most blu-rays. Here are the parameters that are sent to the nvenc

NVEncC64.exe --vbrhq 7000 --codec h265 --preset quality --cu-max 32 --bframes 0 --ref 4 --gop-len 90 --lookahead 15 --strict-gop --aq --cuda-schedule auto --colormatrix bt709 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --vpp-edgelevel strength=10,threshold=14,black=5 --vpp-deband --mv-precision q-pel --cabac

I have to give credit to user Comparison on the Videohelp.com forum, although I had to change some parameters, but not the edge detection settings. Terminology varies so greatly, strange that edge detection yielded better backgrounds and less blockyness.

I still have to do around 7000bps to get close to lossless. but 8k-10kps with h264 for same results. 5500k yeilded poor backgrounds @ 1080p , but older movies converted to blu-ray can and should be shrunk down 1600x???? resolution @ 5500bps, this removes some of the fine grain I've found. (Unless it is a quality conversion)
Frame conversion rates with the GTX 960 is 100-133fps, Hope to double that with GTX 1060.

H265 CPU conversion too slow on my machine at 5 to 10fps and it is not a slow machine passmark 12,000 so GPU hardware conversion needed, disk space not a issue.

I hope the DVDFab developers and other h265 advocates find this information helpful

Godzilla62

GTX 1060 Here, Been using it last couple of days, 80% faster than GTX 960, Better encoding also
Unfortunately DVDfab still having blocking issues with same bitrate encodes. You don't need anything special with Nvidia Pascal architecture. Still no b-frame support, but you can set reference frames to 8 960 was limited to 4
aq Mode on
aq-strength 9 (not even sure if it's using this) - Nvenc seems to have adjusted aq mode, works better with pascal.
Allmost lossless encodes at 8kbps streams
Staxrip Log

NVEncC (x64) 4.29 (r977) by rigaya, Dec 17 2018 12:04:34 (VC 1900/Win/avx2)
OS Version     Windows 10 x64 (17134)
CPU            Intel Xeon(R) X5670  @ 2.93GHz (12C/12T)
GPU            #0: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (1152 cores, 1809 MHz)[PCIe2x16][418.81]
NVENC / CUDA   NVENC API 8.1, CUDA 10.1, schedule mode: auto
Input Buffers  CUDA, 36 frames
Input Info     avcuvid: VC-1, 1920x1080, 24000/1001 fps
Vpp Filters    copyDtoD
Output Info    H.265/HEVC main @ Level auto
1920x1080p 1:1 23.976fps (24000/1001fps)
Encoder Preset quality
Rate Control   VBRHQ
Bitrate        8000 kbps (Max: 22000 kbps)
Target Quality auto
Initial QP     I:20  P:23  B:25
VBV buf size   auto
Lookahead      on, 15 frames, Adaptive I, B Insert
GOP length     150 frames
B frames       0 frames
Ref frames     8 frames, LTR: off
AQ             on
CU max / min   32 / auto
Others         mv:Q-pel

NVEncC64.exe --avhw cuda --vbrhq 8000 --codec h265 --preset quality --cu-max 32 --bframes 0 --ref 8 --gop-len 150 --lookahead 15 --strict-gop --max-bitrate 22000 --aq --cuda-schedule auto --colormatrix bt709 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --mv-precision q-pel --cabac --aq-strength 9

Godzilla62

NVEncC (x64) 4.29 (r977) by rigaya, Dec 17 2018 12:04:34 (VC 1900/Win/avx2)
OS Version     Windows 10 x64 (17134)
CPU            Intel Xeon(R) X5670  @ 2.93GHz (12C/12T)
GPU            #0: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (1152 cores, 1809 MHz)[PCIe2x16][418.81]
NVENC / CUDA   NVENC API 8.1, CUDA 10.1, schedule mode: auto
Input Buffers  CUDA, 36 frames
Input Info     avcuvid: VC-1, 1920x1080, 24000/1001 fps
Vpp Filters    copyDtoD
Output Info    H.265/HEVC main @ Level auto
1920x1080p 1:1 23.976fps (24000/1001fps)
Encoder Preset quality
Rate Control   VBRHQ
Bitrate        8000 kbps (Max: 22000 kbps)
Target Quality auto
Initial QP     I:20  P:23  B:25
VBV buf size   auto
Lookahead      on, 15 frames, Adaptive I, B Insert
GOP length     150 frames
B frames       0 frames
Ref frames     8 frames, LTR: off
AQ             on
CU max / min   32 / auto
Others         mv:Q-pel

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