Since upgrading Windows 7 to Windows 10 and installing 2 new ASUS blu-ray internal drives in my desktop, I can't get a good DL (50GB) copy using Verbatim DataLifePlus blanks. I keep getting this error during the Write function: Flexburn I/O Error! Sdb: Test Unit Ready Sense Data: Invalid Address for Write After copying a virgin multiple episode blu-ray to my C: hard drive, I even tried burning a disc using ImgBurn and got the exact same error message. Anybody else have this problem?

What burn speed are you set for? lower it to 1/2 the rated blank disk speed also in img burn settings check mark OPC before burn this does a test burn on a unused portion of the disk to set laser power to blank disk brand.Whenever you have a burn problem post the Fab or Imgburn log.Also check the new burners for a firmware update if you posted the burn logs this info. could be checked.

Thanks 3dman7. When I was using DVDFab on Windows 7, the burn speed was on recommended. After Windows 10, I lowered the speed to 4, then recently to 2. The Verbatim blanks are rated @ 6X. The two ASUS blu-ray drives are supposed to be "plug and play" and don't require a firmware update, according to an ASUS tech. Recently I downloaded the only ASUS firmware update for this model, even though it has an E-Green feature (for reduced energy consumption) and a 3D feature that mine don't have. I could remove this update using a Restore Point. DVD's seem to burn OK, and I got a good copy of The Incredible Hulk on Main Movie mode that burned onto a 25GB Verbatim disc. As these logs show, a few multi-episode blu-rays burned successfully on 50 GB discs but had errors on the playback. Most just have the burn error. I tried enabling the "Verify" feature on both DVD's and blu-rays, but even with a successful burn, I get a fail on the Verify, so I took this off. I switched burn engines from VSO to DVDFab, per a DVDFab suggestion.

Try Uninstalling one of your internal bluray drive'sand try re burning your disc again. See if this errorStill shows up.

Your getting this error because the drive don't like the blank disks they are the cheap outsourced disks you want to buy the expensive ones or change brands when I was burning disks I used TDK who makes Digistor 6x disks that never gave me a problem and at good cost look them up and give them a try and this problem will go away. Now if you want to try to use the disks you have you may be able to use them at 2x or 4x speed.Some drives have firmware updates so you can use cheap disks with them this drive doesn't.Use img burn in settings for burn check mark OPC before burn and use the slower burn speeds sometimes this will allow using the cheaper disks but not always.Change blank disks to ones I told you about or the expensive ones of the same brand your using with the special dye and watch this problem go away trust me this happens to a lot of people.Here is your drives firmware updates theirs different updates for each version of windows. Digistor 6x disks

I would debate your statement about Verbatims being 'cheap outsourced discs'. They are one of the BEST made especially if you go and check the 'quality' of the burns using programs like Opti Drive Control, Kprobe, and others, etc. But definitely avoid the LTH versions of the discs. Many burners do not like them. Also if possible, depending on exactly what program you are using to burn them, you may want to turn OFF the feature 'Perform OPC Before Burn'. I know it is in ImgBurn. I use the Verbatim BD-R DL disks almost exclusively, specifically Verbatim #98356 (look at the bar code label). They are some of the BEST Blu-Ray DL discs made. Giving the BEST QUALITY of burns. Definitely avoid the Verbatim LTH (Low to High) versions, as well as off brand versions. I would even avoid the Ritek RiData discs, SmartBuy discs, and the Optical Quantum discs. They are middle of the road quality at best.... EVERY disc I burn, I check the 'quality' of the burn afterwards, looking at the PIE, PIF, and PIO errors.....which is the only way to really see the quality of the burn. Mind you only certain Blu-Ray Burners can even scan the discs for this information.

(I would debate your statement about Verbatims being 'cheap outsourced discs'.)Verbatim is a subsidiary company/brand owned by Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp (a.k.a. Mitsubishi Kagaku Kabushiki-gaisha ~ Mitsubishi Kagaku Media), and is part of the "Mitsubishi" family of companies that is also known for motorcycles, cars, etc.For most of its CD/DVD blanks history, Verbatim has exclusively used media manufactured by it's parent company. The monikers "DataLife" and "DataLifePlus" have come to mean different things through the years. As such, they've basically lost all meaning.In the 2x era, "DataLife" meant CMC discs, while "DataLifePlus" meant MCC discs. The CMC usage only lasted a short while, less than a year. For all of the 4x and 8x generation, all Verbatim discs were MCC discs (excluding the European "pearl" series discs that were Taiyo Yuden). Most of the last 5 years worth of 16x generation were also MCC discs.DataLife and DataLifePlus doesn't even appear on all packages anymore. Many simply use "AZO" now. All three markings more or less mean "Mitsubishi discs" right now. This could always change, since the sub-brand markings don't seem to have a historical continuity.The discs to avoid are the "Life Series" and "Value Series" discs that are not Mitsubishi media, even though it's under the Verbatim branding. Life/Value discs are low-grade budget crap from Ritek or CMC, mediocre second-grade discs at best. For the price, and used in the right contexts (duplication only, never masters/archives), those are fine for the value. But I'd rather spend another $5-10 and locate Mitsubishi Verbatims or switch to Taiyo Yuden discs.The extra $5-10 price for Mitsubishi is absolutely justified over the non-MCC discs (Life/Value Series media).The OPC before burn in img burn sets laser power for the disk in the drive so this should be turned on not off.This sometimes lets you use cheaper disks with a burner that don't like them.

DVD's vs Blu-Rays Definitely agree with your clarifications regarding the discs and the various disc ID codes. Although most of what you are talking about is DVD discs, as far as the Disk ID codes you mentioned (i.e. CMC - CMC Magnetics and MCC manufactured by Mitsubishi). As far as the Verbatim DL DVDs go, the best Verbatims are made by the Singapore plant. Recently they are also coming from the United Arab Emirite plant which are usually as good, but I have had bad batches. Point is that you can no longer rely on the MCC Disc code as they have the exact same code. You almost have to burn a couple and then run a scan on them checking the actual burn errors. Again, not all Burners have this capability, especially when it comes to Blu-Rays. But as far as the Blu-Rays, generally the genuine Mitsubishi discs BD-R DL with the VERBATIMf code are the 'good' ones. But again you have to watch out for fakes or batches from different plants (also branded with the same disc ID). Again STAY AWAY from the LTH discs. They are cheaper, lower grade discs that many burners just do not like. There have also been some questions raised about their longevity after being burned. I have a fairly extensive library of the DVD disc codes and many of the Blu-Ray disc codes so that I could sort out the better discs. I HIGHLY recommend anyone interested in 'quality' burns check the disc codes and stick with the disc codes that are known to give higher quality burns. Note that it can vary a bit from Burner to Burner. Some burners work better with Ritek discs, some work better with Verbatim discs, etc. If you are REALLY interested in quality burns, you will burn the movie/data on some test discs, at 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x and then scan them for PIE/PIF/PIO (DVDs) and LDC/BIS errors (Blu-Rays) errors to really see the difference in the quality of the burn at a given speed. With the true Mitsubishi good quality discs I have been able to burn the 6x disks at both 6x and 8x and maintain maximum quality of the burns. This is using a Pioneer Blu-Ray Burner. I am not sure who is making the ASUS Burners or if they are actually manufacturing their own now. But I disagree with the statement about the OPC setting. Yes, it stands for Optical Power Calibration and is the burners attempt to try and figure out an 'Optimum' burn setting. But there are a couple problems. Not all burners implement it correctly and even if they do, the test spot they burn is on the inside portion of the disc which can have a different quality when compared to the disc halfway through or at the outer edge. Many burners with alter their speeds at different points through the disc to maintain maximum quality. Also it is only useful on discs that ARE NOT in the burners library of Disc ID's. All burners scan for the disc ID, look at their built in table, and then burn using the strategy from that table. Which has usually been optimized for that disc ID code. The OPC test will sometimes set a speed different from the built in strategy and give a different (lower) quality of burn. If the disc ID is not in the burners library, it will usually default to the lowest speed, which is usually 2x.

No matter my advice stands and is from many years of helping people with the error codes the OP posted.His disk burner also has its own OPC before burn built in the drive and is a international model.

That error could be a few things I would definitely try to see if there is a newer firmware update for the drive, try the OPC setting both On and OFF, and try some different discs. Looking at the IMGBURN.log from above his problem occurs when it starts burning the 2nd layer of the disc.

Thanks for all the help guys. You are Awesome!. I spent 4 hours replying to all the advice only to lose it when I sent it, so this will be shorter. October262: ASUS tech already had me disconnect one of the two blu ray drives, in case there might be a load sharing problem, so only one has been connected this past week. Thanks for the suggestion. The blank disc issue: The blanks I am using are: Verbatim DataLifePlus BD-R DL White Inkjet Hub Printable 50 GB, 6X, P/N:973345, Bar Code 23942 97334, made in Taiwan (most recent batch) Verbatim DataLifePlus BD-R White Inkjet Hub Printable With Hard Coat 25 GB, 6X, P/N 97339, Bar Code 23942 97339, made in Taiwan. 3dman7: The disc you recommend, the Digistors are about half as expensive the Verbatims above, which doesn't necessarily mean mine are better, but they worked fine before I went from Windows 7 to 10 and changed my blu ray drive from LG to ASUS. I will try some of the Digistors; they may work better and same me some $. I read online that ASUS's drives are crappier than LG or Pioneer, which it said are the best. Supposedly cheaper chipsets in the ASUS. The ASUS firmware link you gave is the firmware I tried and is still installed, no help. When I had the LG, I had some burn issues and tried firmware for a similar but different model and had no more burn problems. (Just a side note) I finally found something about OPC in the ImgBurn forum and it said it is disabled by default. Couldn't find out how to enable it, unless it is the Test Mode box under Write tab. When it is checked, the Verify box auto unchecks. Is this it? If so, I will try it on and off. Couldn't find OPC in DVDFab. Thanks for all your help - you are awesome! Turak: You mentioned that the problem seemsto happen when I when the burn program switches to the 2nd layer. Is this why the burn errors happen when I'm trying to clone burn DL discs? Does it mean that the problem is with the ASUS drive? Someone online suggested that since burning DL blanks is very iffy by nature, you should always burn to a single layer disc, even if there is considerable compression involved. Haven't tried to burn any multi-episode 50GB discs to 25GB discs because the compression was always into the upper 30%ages. Don't know if it's even possible, but will give it a try. On some good TV episode discs like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones, I'd really like to keep the excellent blu ray quality even if they are a lot more expensive than the 25GB discs. I didn't know there are programs like Opti Drive Control. I downloaded it and tried it on a copied 25GB movie and tried to make a Test Disc and only got error messages. I used the manual, but couldn't get it to work. I emailed the owner of it for help. This is SO over my head. Was hoping to learn something from it. Is there another program I can understand enough to run? I did learn that my ASUS drive is using Firmware 3. The ASUS firmware download I tried and 3dman7 linked to is V1.01.51, so maybe it is not running my ASUS drive??? You wrote: " EVERY disc I burn, I check the 'quality' of the burn afterwards, looking at the PIE, PIF, and PIO errors.....which is the only way to really see the quality of the burn. Mind you only certain Blu-Ray Burners can even scan the discs for this information." Could you explain how to check this? I've looked at the DVDFab logs, and it is mostly gobbily gook to me. Doctor, could you explain this in layman's terms? Thanks so much for all the help. I've already learned more than I ever thought I would want to know about this, and it's still not nearly enough. I look to hearing from you.

Invalid Address for Write Error

october262

Do your disc's play ok now or are you still having
Burn problems ?

3dman

Read post #14 again look at the posted picture put the 50 gig disk in the drive and open Imgburn select discover from the choices displayed look and see what it says for disk manufacture that's loaded in your drive this is to make sure the disk is not made by Ritec or other manufacture.

When I say I generally find disks made that are 6x can be burned at 10x to be good disks I speak about these making no coasters with the drives I owned Pioneers and LG'S even at the 10x speed.I find the Fab burner slows down and speeds up where it feels it can produces good results and Img burn can also be set this way.General advice is to burn at 1/2 the disk rated speed however the variable burn speed also produces good results

This advice apply if the disk and burner likes each other not when they won't burn layer #2 on a 50 gig disk.As I said before I helped many people with this problem in the past changing to quality brands of disks always helped and with some players setting Img burn to OPC before burn and slowing disk speed down on cheaper blank media worked in some cases.Firmware updates are critical to maintain up to date burning and reading of disks so this comes first then everything else after.This is from many years of helping people.

Do you still have the other drives you had before you upgraded to windows 10 to give them a try?

About the 50 gig to 25 gig problem post the internal log file for it I believe this version of Fab has compression problems sometimes use version 9 of Fab and retry but post the log for staff to look at please.

Turak

Firmware

Hi WhoDatRazor...

Typically, you CAN NOT uninstall firmware. It is not something that is part of the operating system on your computer. It is code that is copied into a ROM/Flash memory chip that is inside your Burner.

Typically when you upgrade the firmware, you can not go back to a previous version, unless the device allows you to downgrade the firmware, which they typically do not. Plus you would have to have the previous version of firmware in order to even try.

I am not surprised that you would have difficulty finding a Lite-On iHBS212, it is a fairly old burner. Unfortunately Lite-On quit making Blu-Ray burners some time ago, as did Sony.

If you really wanted one, you would probably have to go to EBAY. But I would only use it for scanning nowadays. If I were getting a new Blu-Ray Burner for burning Blu-Rays, I would go with a Pioneer. Here is the one I had bought, they are still available through Newegg;

VERY GOOD quality burns with 'good' Verbatim discs (i.e. Manufactured in Singapore, United Arab Emirite, or Japan). Fairly quality burns with Optical Quantum discs. Poor quality with Ritek and Smartbuy discs. Do not know about TDK discs. Remember that different burners can like/dislike different brands of discs. It really all depends a lot on what discs the manufacturer tested and optimized them for and the overall quality of the discs.

But you can NOT use it for scanning Blu-Ray discs. It can scan DVD's.

Pioneer's, LG's, and Plextor's CAN NOT do quality scanning of Blu-Rays.

The only burners I know that can do quality scanning of Blu-Rays are Lite-On and Samsung Blu-Ray Burners.

You might also find a 'rebranded' burner that is actually a Lite-On mechanism that can. Some Sony's were rebranded Lite-On's. But, it is not easy to tell what is a rebranded Lite-On. If you REALLY want to get into quality scanning your discs, I think you would be better off looking on EBAY for a Lite-On Burner and you might want to stay away from the used ones.

WhoDatRazor

3dman7 Latest Post Reply

Hi 3dman. I did look at the disc manufacturer on Imgburn. It shows that the manufacturer is indeed Verbatim, not a knock-off. The discs Are supposed to be from Taiwan, so according to you (or maybe Turak), they could a a lower quality than those from United Emirates or Japan or Singapore. You guys tell me. I burned a 50GB disc on Imgburn using OPC on at 2X and 6X, got those same error messages @ 73-74% when the burn switches to the 2nd layer. Will include the logs for them and the log for the 50GB to 25GB Full Disc copy If I can find it. Since DVDFab locked up and wouldn't start the burn that was compressing the clone copy it made, don't know if there is any log on that. If I can find something, I will include it 3dman7. Next, will buy a package of the 25GB and 50GB's you recommended and see if that helps. If it solves the 50GB burn problems, that will be great - and they are about half price what I'v been spending. I have already ordered a Pioneer BDR-209DBK from Newegg. It's a little cheaper than the Pioneer BDR 2209 is recommending. The difference is mine won't burn the Blu ray 100GB or 140GB's that's out there now, I guess. Don't know anything those. Dual layer BD's are giving me enough trouble as it is, LOL. Please let me know if spending $25 more on the 2209 vs the 209 is worth it in your opinion. If I get a reply ASAP, I may be able to change the Newegg order.

Changing the subject, I've started looking into multi backing up by computer using one of my external hard drives and maybe also to a cloud. I understand some of the clouds will let you also put large video files on them, and some not. I idea of putting some movies or TV episodes there to view on a mobile device is enticing. Any cloud suggestions for both applications. You sound like you know about this. Would appreciate your input.

Well, trying your discs on my (crappy) new ASUS drive and trying out a new Pioneer when it arrives, maybe I'll finally resolve this. Thanks again for all your help. With all the time and money spent so, Id like to solve this once and for all. I'll have 2 new ASUS drives that I may or may not be able to get any use out of. Oh well. Thanks again. Please respond ASAP if you think I ordered the wrong Pioneer, otherwise I look forward to your further responses. Bye. :)

WhoDatRazor

Turak Reply

Hi Turak. I thought, as you said, that firmware updates should not show up as installed programs. The one I installed from ASUS must not be formware, I guess. The firmware showing up for my ASUS is different, so I'm going to uninstall that ASUS whatever it is. I just ordered from Newegg a Pioneer 209-BDK. Passed on your suggested 2099 BDK. It's about $25 more and has 100GB triple layer and 140GB quad layer copy(or burn?) capability. Never heard of that technology. Scares me a little, given the problems I'm having with Double Layer. If you can tell me about the worth of this technology and think it's worth the extra $, please let me know ASAP. I might be able to switch to buying it.

As I said in the reply to 3dman7, I tried burning a practically virgin Band of Brothers multi episode disc copied on my C: drive using OPC @ 2X and 6X speed on ImgBurn. Got the error message on both right where it switches to the 2nd layer, around 74%. ImgBurn says my blank 50GB discs are in fact Verbatim manufactured discs, although the discs say they are from Taiwan. Gonna try 3dman7's cheaper discs and see how they do. Also gonna try all discs on the Pioneer I ordered (unless I switch to your suggestion) Think I may have found a refurbished Lite-on on Ebay, if memory serves. Given I may end up with 2 new ASUS burners that are pretty much useless, I'm undecided whether to get a not new Lite-on so I can scan copied blu rays. Would be nice to know I can analyze a copied BD, but is it worth it? Undecided. Pissed what a nightmare this has turned into. Wish I hadn't trashed my old LG blu ray burner. Was only having trouble with the eject and thought with all the burns I had on it, maybe was time for a new one. Obviously didn't research the ASUS adequately. Later. Let know ASAP about the Pioneers if you think I made a mistake. Made enough already, I think.:mad:

3dman

I would have waited until you tried the new disks why buy a new drive if all you needed was new disks? Anyway you will be happy with any Pioneer drive when you get it check for new firmware at the Pioneer web page before you start any burning.You can always sell the drives on Ebay or garage sale so it won't be a total loss but try the different disks first then I would keep one old drive and the new drive if the other disks will work in the old drives.Can the 2 the new Asus drives be returned?

Just a thought here have you tried to burn a regular movie that is big enough to use both layers but not the same episode disk you have been using a big movie uncompressed like Avatar to see if that iso your using is defective?

If you want to test the episode disk test for errors and test it's files with a free tester program called VSO inspector this will scan the disk or file and give a full report on if it's files are ok
download it here http://www.vso-software.fr/download_product_direct.php?product=inspector

If using a disk you load disk in tray select play on any media player then still it and place in tray now open VSO inspector select scan from the upper bar with selections and start a file and surface of the disk press start the disk will be scanned for errors and a full report will come up at end this can Take awhile.

For iso's on hard drive you also need Fab's free virtual drive program it's on Fabs front page if you don't already have it load the iso into Fabs virtual drive then open VSO inspector in VSO'a top menu select the pull down box where your drive is listed then you will see other drives on your computer select virtual drive with the iso in it now play the iso with a media player using the virtual drive as (play from) then still it then place media player in tray select scan from upper bar in VSO inspector choices and start. When done a full report will be issued to see if theirs any errors on that iso that will prevent burning the disk.

Turak

Hi WhoDatRazor. You should be fine with the Pioneer BDR-209DBK. The only real difference between the two is the BDR-2209 also supports the triple layer (75GB) and quad layer (100GB) disks, which are REAL expensive anyway.

I too had tried an ASUS drive and immediately returned it, before I bought my Pioneer Burner. Believe me, you will be VERY HAPPY with your Pioneer.

As for scanning discs, It is really only useful for telling the 'true' quality of the burns. When I buy a batch of discs, especially new or different brand discs, I like to run some test burns at 4x, 6x, 8x, etc and then scan the quality to see which speed is giving me the 'best' quality burn. You would think the lower the speed, the better the burn, but that is not necessarily true always.

I know, I am kind of a geek as far as the quality scanning is concerned. Most people are just happy if they burn successfully. They watch them (movies that is) and if they don't skip, hang, or stutter, they are happy.

I really find the scanning useful for telling which brands of discs truly work the best with my burner.

EVERY disc (CD, DVD, or Blu-Ray) has errors when they are burned. The error correction algorithms in the hardware minimize the effects of these errors. But if the errors are bad enough, it is one of the reasons that you get the skipping, hanging, stuttering, etc. when you try to play them.

But, is it worth the investment of another burner just for scanning.....well that is for you to decide.

As for your ASUS burner, you may find that it will work ok on a Windows 7 machine, or with some other brands of discs. Another thing you could try is to check the SATA controller driver being used on your machine. It could be using some generic/Microsoft driver. Your Motherboard manufacturer may have a custom driver made just for their motherboard/SATA Controller that works better. Or you may find that ASUS will release another firmware upgrade at some point which corrects the problem.

I feel sorry for you finding out the hard way that they are problematic burners. I know that wasting/failing double layer Blu-Rays burns can get expensive at $3-$5 a disc. You can always try contacting ASUS and explain to them that you are tired of trying to get them to work and would just like a refund. Many times, even if the place you bought them from won't give you a refund, the manufacturer may. Especially if they are still under the manufacturers warranty period.

Glad to try and help....

3dman

Also recheck that you have the correct firmware for windows 10 64 bit it's here and says it's version 101.51 your logs show version 3.0 or no version listed after your drive in the latest logs you posted there's different firmware for each model of windows and also a pro model of your drive with the exact same model number with pro listed after the model number.Try burning this using this version of the firmware on one of the burners and see if it works any better or is the same.Use the pull down box select windows 10 64bit the first choice in the list.
https://www.asus.com/us/Optical-Drives-Storage/BW16D1HT/HelpDesk_Download/

WhoDatRazor

Thx for the Quick Replies

Hello again guys. First, 3dman7: the firmware on this and your other firmware link is the one I tried downloading. It's the one that listed as an app that I mentioned earlier. It didn't help and I just uninstalled it using Revo. There were no leftover files to delet after using its own uninstall program. As Turak mentioned, being firmware (utility), it shouldn't have shown up as an installed program, making me wonder what the heck it is. Anyway it didn't help, and now it's gone. Next, I don't have a blu ray media player anymore on my computer. I used to have Total Media Theater, which worked well and sounded surprising good on my crappy Gateway 2 speakers and Woofer. I never watch blu rays on my computer, and since I would have to buy it again (yearly subscirption), I chose not to. An online source said VLC Media Player would work with blu rays, but does not. However, I did load DVDFab's Virtual Drive and the VSO Inspector program and loaded the iso onto the Virtual Drive and tested it on VSO Inspector. It came out 100% on the test. Don't understand why there is the intermediate step of playing it first on a media player and testing the media player. Anyway, just tested the original blu ray disc on VSO Inspector. It showed no problems or errors. I may have jumped the gun getting a new Pioneer drive, but am sick and tired of the DL frizbees. Also, I ordered some of your recommended Digistor 25GB and 50 GB blanks. If they work better than mine, it'll save me some big $. Thanks for that. I will try burning a long 25+GB movie just to see if I get the error, but I'm not optimistic. What's one more frizbee? :D I'll hold off asking about the Cloud stuff I mentioned in the last post. One at a time.

october 262: As these posts show, I'm still having the same problem. Thanks for asking.

Turak: Thanks for answering so soon. The Pioneer is on the way and I'm hopeful. It'll be well worth it if the problem stops. I agree it would be real nice to know the quality of each burn, especially while trying to find the best blanks to use, but I'll probably hold off awhile getting a refurbished Lite-on for that. I've already gone thru some serious $. Thanks for the suggestion of reselling one or both ASUS's on Ebay. I may very well do that. Can't return them now, too long. Gonna see how the Pro Digistor discs 3dman suggested will work first. Thanks for all the help and time guys. As they would say where I'm from, Ya'll are blowin' me away! Will keep you posted.

Turak

ASUS Firmware Updates

That program appears to be nothing more than a utility for reducing the power consumption of the drive.

I didn't see any firmware updates for the Optical drives. I also searched the web and can not seem to locate any actual firmware updates directly from ASUS.

I did find a site that indicated that the current firmware for the drive is 3.0.0. Not sure if that is totally correct or not.

It is possible that maybe you can install that program and there is an option in it for downloading firmware. Can't confirm that or not since I do not have an ASUS drive and do not want to install that software just to look.

I found firmware updates on the ASUS site for routers and motherboards, but nothing for the Blu-ray burners (optical drives).

Maybe someone can chime in who has actually performed a firmware update on an ASUS drive. Is there an option in the power consumption utility to actually update the firmware on the Burner???

WhoDatRazor, Did you see an option in that utility for actually downloading or updating the firmware in your ASUS drive?

october262

[QUOTE=WhoDatRazor;194985]Hello again guys. First, 3dman7: the firmware on this and your other firmware link is the one I tried downloading. It's the one that listed as an app that I mentioned earlier. It didn't help and I just uninstalled it using Revo. There were no leftover files to delet after using its own uninstall program. As Turak mentioned, being firmware (utility), it shouldn't have shown up as an installed program, making me wonder what the heck it is. Anyway it didn't help, and now it's gone. Next, I don't have a blu ray media player anymore on my computer. I used to have Total Media Theater, which worked well and sounded surprising good on my crappy Gateway 2 speakers and Woofer. I never watch blu rays on my computer, and since I would have to buy it again (yearly subscirption), I chose not to. An online source said VLC Media Player would work with blu rays, but does not. However, I did load DVDFab's Virtual Drive and the VSO Inspector program and loaded the iso onto the Virtual Drive and tested it on VSO Inspector. It came out 100% on the test. Don't understand why there is the intermediate step of playing it first on a media player and testing the media player. Anyway, just tested the original blu ray disc on VSO Inspector. It showed no problems or errors. I may have jumped the gun getting a new Pioneer drive, but am sick and tired of the DL frizbees. Also, I ordered some of your recommended Digistor 25GB and 50 GB blanks. If they work better than mine, it'll save me some big $. Thanks for that. I will try burning a long 25+GB movie just to see if I get the error, but I'm not optimistic. What's one more frizbee? :D I'll hold off asking about the Cloud stuff I mentioned in the last post. One at a time.

october 262: As these posts show, I'm still having the same problem. Thanks for asking.

Turak: Thanks for answering so soon. The Pioneer is on the way and I'm hopeful. It'll be well worth it if the problem stops. I agree it would be real nice to know the quality of each burn, especially while trying to find the best blanks to use, but I'll probably hold off awhile getting a refurbished Lite-on for that. I've already gone thru some serious $. Thanks for the suggestion of reselling one or both ASUS's on Ebay. I may very well do that. Can't return them now, too long. Gonna see how the Pro Digistor discs 3dman suggested will work first. Thanks for all the help and time guys. As they would say where I'm from, Ya'll are blowin' me away! Will keep you posted.[/QUOTE]

What is the model number of the pioneer burner
That you ordered ??

Turak

ASUS Firmware Updates.....

Found out why you can not find any firmware updates for the ASUS Blu-Ray Burners.......

I spoke directly with ASUS tech support, they DO NOT make any FIRMWARE updates for their Blu-Ray Optical Drives. Man is that sad.......

Based on that fact alone.....I would never recommend an ASUS Blu-Ray burner to anyone.

And yes, that program on their web site is nothing more than a power/energy saver.....basically useless. It just powers down or puts the burner in an energy saving mode when its idle.

He ordered a Pioneer BDR-209DBK. Good Burner, he will be very happy with that and Pioneer actually does do Firmware updates for their Burners....

They (Pioneer) also have a utility that lets you adjust a couple things in the Burner, basically putting it into a Quiet mode or Performance mode. Adjusting the read mode called 'Pure Read' although I recommend you leave it off. Slows the drive down in an attempt for additional accuracy by performing multiple reads of the sectors on the disc. It can also set the drive back to factory defaults.

Sheesh hard to believe that ASUS does not have any Firmware updates for their Blu-Ray burners.

Turak

Firmware update for the Pioneer drive

WhoDatRazor......

When you get your Pioneer Burner. Check the firmware. It should be v1.34.

If it is not, you can get it here;

Go to that link. Select the 'Check here for available firmwares' line. Then in the new windows that pops up, scroll down until you find your drive model. You can then look at the changes they have made to the firmware and download the new firmware.

You can get the Drive Utility in the same place. At the very top where it says BD/DVD/CD Drive, to the right of it, select Drive Utility. Then scroll down slightly to to the section that says BDR-209EBK/BDR-209UBK and select the download button. Do not worry it will work on your drive, they just didn't list the DBK extension.

Note - DO NOT interrupt the firmware update. Also once you update it, you CAN NOT go back to the previous firmware. You won't need to so don't worry about it.

3dman

If you want a free media player that plays files on the hard drive including blu rays free download Fabs own media player it won't play disks unless you get the paid version.VLC is another good media player it's also free and plays everything from the computer well but doesn't do Atmos soundtracks but Fab media player does it all free except play from disk with Fab media player so give it a try there's also a 30 day free trial of the pro version that does play from disk handy to have to test files made before burning to disk.

The tester program VSO inspector works without putting a disk in it to play in still mode but for many years moderator CBR929 always gave this out as how to use this program so I picked it up from him but it doesn't say this on their internet page.Here's what it says and theirs a sector test to test disks also.The how to use this program could of changed with updates to it.Here's what it says now.
http://www.vso-software.fr/products/inspector/inspector.php

WhoDatRazor

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I deleted that utility update, and the ASUS seems to be doing better. I think I got a good burn of The Revenant, over 30GB. No wri5te error message using a 50GB Verbatim blank. About 1/3 watching the playback, so far so good. Also got a good burn (hopefully) on Banshee Season 1 Disc 1. At least a successful with no Write Error. Will watch it next. Wonder if removing that bogus utility is helping. 3dman: I didn't open it and look before deleting. Not sure I would have known what to look for. Anyway, got those Digistors on the way, the Pioneer burner also, and last night got a Lite-on DH-12E3SH blu ray supposedly new for $46 on Ebay, even tho Lite-on is out of production. Turak, I that model will work on that slick scanner you gave me. Decided going this far and experimenting with new blanks, it would be very helpful to be able to scan copies for burn quality. Maybe my inner Geek is emerging :D. 3dman, will look at that VSO Inspector manual. Checking the Band of Brothers Disc 3 iso on the C: drive and the blu ray disc itself with it, I got 100% good /no problems or errors on either. Did try running first on VLC but got incompatibility error. I saw that DVDFab media player, but haven't tried it yet. Will look at the Inspector manual and decide whether to try a media player step. I'll fall over if the Banshee multi-episode turns out to be good. Still don't regret getting the better drives. Will let you guys know. Thanks once again.

3dman

I told you to burn a different disk like Avatar on a 2 layer disk I bet it was that one disk you were trying to burn.Anyway glad its burning 2 layer disks again.
Here's what a lot of us went to for storing movies Seagate Expansion 4TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0 $115.00 at amazon.I use two 5tb models one as a backup for the other much cheaper than disks and no more burning disks just rip right to the hard drive very fast they use 3.0.UBS and you can store hundreds of movies in a compressed format i make hi quality MKV movies and only keep a few as 50 gig iso's.Their the size of a book and portable enough to bring with you on a trip.I do back up this Hugh drive with a second should something happen to one.You can also get insurance from seagate for hard drive failure a recovery service.They also have streaming to hard drives and they have cloud drives now also just google Seagates main page but buy from amazon for better prices.

Turak

Scanning discs

I am pretty sure that any Lite-On Blu-Ray burner will work fine for scanning the Blu-Rays & DVD's for burn quality. They all used a Mediatek chipset in them.

Keep in mind, that you have to actually burn them BEFORE you try to do a 'quality' scan on them.

It's up to you, but even if you did seem to get the Asus burners working, you may want to just go ahead and get rid of them....sell them, return them, etc. You will have MUCH better results and a lot less problems with the Pioneer Burner. Especially since it sounds as if you may never be able to get any firmware updates for the ASUS burners.

Once you get them and get them installed.....and are ready to do some burn 'quality' scanning. I can give you some tips. One tip right off the bat, always scan them at either 4x or 8x and stick to that for all your scans so you can compare them. You should not try to compare scans done at 4x with scans done at 8x.

WhoDatRazor

Saturday

Hey Guys. Still not sure about the 50 GB discs yet. Haven't gotten any of the burn error messages lately and frankly don't know why they stopped. Some of the multi-episode discs have LOTS of use, if you know what I mean, and those are getting playback freeze ups, but I'm getting successful burns. Using my Band of Brothers discs as tests because they have practically no usage. Checking them right now for freeze ups. Burned two B of B's so far.

3dman: used The Revenant because I think I only burned the Main Movie and it was well over 30 GB's. Don't have Avatar (watched it at the theater). Tried to Google blu ray movies over 25GB but couldn't find a list. Any other title suggestions? Right now I have a 1 and 2 TB Seagate external drive, but don't have the new 3.0 USB ports on my computer, so copying takes a lot longer. Right now using the 1TB as computer backup (half empty) and the 2TB is half full with some blu rays, DVD's, downloaded videos, etc. and I think the Ext Drives are 2.0 USB's. Still mostly using discs for movie & TV episode backups. Many!! Not familiar with compressed MKV's. Never heard of it. Your 5 TB Seagate idea is interesting. Don't think my Lenovo tablet has a USB port though. Today was exploring cloud storage, especially for mobile android tablet use (my Samsung phone's screen is too small). Already have Dropbox installed but haven't used it much yet. My Windows 10 keeps trying to get me to set up its One Drive and I could set up Google Drive. Also need to set up a computer backup on a cloud. This is all new to me. Suggestions on how to copy movies or TV stuff to a cloud for mobile use? DVDFab has a video converter mode I own. Would I need to convert blu rays and DVD's down to mp4 or ??? I've just increased my internet speed way up to 300MB/sec download and about 35 MB/sec upload. That should reduce copy to cloud time, right? Would MKV compression work? Cloud storage limits would be an issue. Hugh drive? Cloud drives on Seagate external drives? Haven't gone to their website yet.

Turak: When you say I have to burn the disc before scanning it, do you mean I need to burn on the Lite-on before quality scanning on it, or could I burn on the Pioneer and scan on the Lite-on as long as the speeds are the same? We can talk more later when I get set up. Haven't gotten either drive yet - next week some time.

Stay tuned... :cool:

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