Need help, transfering full dvd to mp4, I am only getting a partial movie. About 10 to 30 minutes or so of the first part of the movie is missing. Is there something I am doing wrong. Any help, thanks.

You have posted in the wrong forum, you should use the Ripper forum since this is the module you are using. I will move your thread there after you supply the DVDFab internal log session from the failed conversion. Instructions for this are linked in my sig, below.

The log is incomplete. A log session begins with the DVDFab version number and a date stamp and can end any number of ways depending on what happens. Please try it again. I will move this to the Ripper forum in the meantime.

log files Ok, I will send both internal log files the dvdfab_internal.log and the fabcheck_internal.log they are as is. Thanks,

mp4 Started checking all my converted mp4's, and found that aboout 1 in every 4 conversions, I am loosing from 6 to 30 minutes of the movie in all of them. I hope you can find the reason for this, because this is not good at all. Thanks

That is unusual but can be caused by several things, including problems reading the disc, overheating etc. If it seem to always happen near the end of the title, I might suspect heat. I have not looked at your logs yet, but do you get any error messages?

mp4 It is the first 6 to 30 min of the movie that is missing. The full DVD movie is all there and is good. Just when it is converted to the MP4's is the part missing.

I don't know if this will help as I didn't check the .mp4s I used DVD Ripper on for any of the movie missing. I will check to see if I still have them .If I do they are on my other computer & I don't have it booted right now. The problem I found with the .mp4s were they wouldn't play on my TV from a flash drive or my external harddrive.My TV messaged incorrect audio codec & incorrect video codec .That meant my TV didn't have the codecs to play the DVDFab DVD Ripper created .mp4sIt regularly plays other .mp4s so the problem was with the DVD Ripper created .mp4s.The .mp4s played fine on my computer. Then I used .mkv for the conversion & they worked fine with my TV.So the point of all this is give .MKV a try . Unless you don't like the .mkv format or have found it incompatable with your devices.

Hi Cholla, if you find those mp4s, run one of them that would not play on the TV through MediaInfo and attach or send me the results. Does the TV play AAC audio from other sources? Did you use a different audio codec setting?

Hi signals, I had deleted those .mp4s but I wanted to see if one I created with DVD Ripper had any missing time as some of the ones edistoriverrat posted about. The .mp4 I created didn't have any lost time. So the MediaInfo is from a fresh conversion with 10.0.4.3 I didn't have any .mp4s that were 6 channel AAC except this one that won't play on my TV. I tested with a .mp4 2 channel AAC & it played correctly on my TV, I'm sure I could create a 6 channel AAC with other software I have. I will see if I can do that & post back how it goes. Heres the MediaInfo requested:

mp4 movie

cholla

@ edistoriverrat ,
I just now logged in but I will take a look at the logs.

I think you posted this is a DVD rip & not a blu ray (BD) rip is this correct?

I know you said this rip played fine on your computer.
So this suggestion shouldn't be necessary.
Try to rip the movie again to your harddrive & use the new rip for the conversion.

My problem with the way DVDRipper does .mp4 is different from yours .
The .mp4 conversion won't play on my TV . That is why I suggested .mkv format as those play fine on my TV . When done from the same DVD rip.
IMO neither problem should exist.
My suspicion is certain hardware configurations cause different problems for DVDRipper when it does conversions.

That is why a new rip with a different optical drive might work for you.

Those are my suggestions for now & I will look at the new logs .
If I see anything I will post it.

cholla

I looked at your logs.
I compared my dvdfab_internal.log from a .mp4 conversion with yours.
These are some differences I saw .

Yours info: recommand= 8248, Shrink support= 1, enable= 1, cuda_cap= 1 , cpu_count= 8
GPU check: GPUAccelerate-0X203F
GPU check: GPUAccelerate setting-0X2038, 0X2038
GPU check: CUDA cap-0X1
GPU check: Lighting shrink status-1, 1
Burn engine: config engine type-0 begin. ( This shouldn't make a difference except when writing to a disc.)
Burn engine: config engine type-0 end. ( This shouldn't make a difference except when writing to a disc.)

Mine info: recommand= 0, Shrink support= 0, enable= 0, cuda_cap= 0 , cpu_count= 2
GPU check: GPUAccelerate-0X0
GPU check: GPUAccelerate setting-0X0, 0X0
GPU check: CUDA cap-0X0
GPU check: Lighting shrink status-0, 0
Burn engine: config engine type-2 begin. ( This shouldn't make a difference except when writing to a disc.)
Burn engine: config engine type-2 end. ( This shouldn't make a difference except when writing to a disc.)

The fabcheck_internal.log is mostly a hardware report.
Of course there are differences . Someone that knows a specific piece of hardware has caused problems would need to check that.
I'm posting my dvdfab_internal.log so you can look for the other differences but I don't believe any of those would make a difference.

cholla

I did another .mp4 .
This time I checked " Disable all GPU codecs for decoding and encoding" .
This setting is in Common Settings/General/A/V Codec .
The dvdfab_internal.log was some different from the former one.
I can't say if that will help but might be worth a try.
For me it still wouldn't play on my TV.
Looked & played fine on my computer.
I used DVDFab Media Player 2.2.0.0 .
VLC played it as well.

signals

cholla, thanks for all the time you have put in on this, it has helped illuminate this issue.

We are really glad to have you over here.

cholla

[QUOTE=signals;197138]cholla, thanks for all the time you have put in on this, it has helped illuminate this issue.

We are really glad to have you over here.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the nice compliment signals.

This information might be useful for the DVD Ripper programmers , authors , or techs whichever you like to call them.
They should know if the .mp4s written by DVD Ripper fall within these specs.
Maybe one of the other MP4 options does fall within these specs . I haven't tested them because I didn't believe they were correct for my use. Take the MP4 4K option for example . I don't have a 4K TV so there isn't a reason to use that one.
These are the specs for .MP4 I have for my TV:
Sharp AQUOS
LC-46LE620UT

MP4 specs for this TV (What is supposed to be able to play):

H.264 BP LV 4.0 (Not support for FMO,ASO & redundant slice)
H.264 MP LV 4.0
H.264 HP LV 4.0
MP4 MPEG-4 SP@L 3.0
MPEG-4 ASP@HL4.0 (B-VOP and 4MV are supported.GMC is supported but only one point allowed)
H.263
Motion JPEG

As I've posted before if I choose .MKV for the conversion then the resulting file conversion plays fine.

3dman

Edistoriverrat:The drive B:you used is READ ONLY the other A drive is read and write so switch burners do it in Fab settings uncheck the reader drive B and leave the A: drive checked marked so the read only drive doesn't get used with Fab.Try again use this one (Burn engine: 0- A:\ [ASUS BW-12B1ST a 1.00 (Scsi)].
You need to write the files to hard drive as well as if you were making a disk.:)

edistoriverrat

mp4

Tried all your ideas, still nothing working, oh and I don't burn blue ray's , just DVD's . Also tried burning onto TWO other different hard drives, and on another pc. Same results. I will have to get the movie again, and try burning from another optical drive, although I don't see what good that will do, as the movie is complete as a DVD.
Thanks for All the help so far, still hopeing someone will figgure it out.

edistoriverrat

Here is what I did, still need help with it tho.
I set everything back to default, with still the same results.
I found it is selecting Title 33 which is 1:36:12 long. I then choose another title. which was Title 30 and it is 1:43:27 long which is about the same amount of time missing on the mp4.
Guess what, the whole movie is there.
Now I need you to tell me WHY it is not choosing the correct Title to begin with. Is there a setting somewhere for this.
Thanks again, Everyone.

cholla

@ edistoriverrat ,
Congrats on figuring out the problem.
How did you do it ?

Since you now have a .MP4 that works I wouldn't rip the movie again.

The same for me on the BD's .I have ripped a BD but only do if I have to.

I was hoping some staff would answer this but I will try from what I understand.
In the past the movie industry used "dummy" titles to fool software like DVDFab.
Sometimes there was little or no data in the "dummy" titles This is done with the .ifo file if my understanding is correct.
I thought that DVDFab had been able to defeat this for so long now that it had been given up as copy protection but I guess not.

Along these lines the .ifos' are what directs the different timed 'main movie" .vobs titles. Most of the time there is only one actual Titleset of these. It contains all the data for all Titles. If each had its' own data the DVD would need to be the size of a BD.
In the movie you have been working with both Title 33 & Title 30 would be in the same Titleset.
The .ifo for Title 33 directs the data it is to use in the Titleset.
The .ifo for Title 30 directs the data it is to use in the Titleset.
This movie Bitter Harvest is a new release & it is apparently directing DVDFab to Title 33 . DVDFab usually selects the longest Titleset by time legnth (that is what I usually see).
The copy protection in this movie someway directs DVDFab to select the shorter Title 33. Things like this are usually fixed once reported.

It appears this has happened to you on other movies. Probably for the same reason.

On to the settings.
In Ripper . Once you have added the movie & turned it on.
There is a button "Choose Other Titles" this will allow you to select the Titleset you want to convert.
Usually the difference is one is the "Original" version & one the Theatrical or Director's cut for example. Sometimes one has more "Special Features".
When you have a problem where you need to select a Titleset other than the one DVDFab selects it is a good idea to see if anyone is posting about problems with a movie especially a new release.

This is what really confuses me about the problem you've had.
The first part of the movie is missing .
The beginning of most movies is the same .
It seems odd to me that this part would be missing .
I sure haven't thought of a reason for this.
Like above the reasons for different lengths of Titlesets are not the beginning of the movie.
So I guess when you do a conversion to .mp4 you need to select the Titleset as I posted above.

edistoriverrat

Upset.

I guess this is where I vent my frustrations. I have to go back thru 434 movies I have already converted to mp4 to see how many are missing a segment. Then I will have to MANUALLY check and, set the Title for the rest of my thousands of movies in my collection. That Sucks!
I have been looking at the new Dvdfab movie server, but I just can't see paying 300, if I am going to have bad movies from the start.
Hopefully Admin. will come up with the solution to my problem soon.
Thanks for all the help.

Dora

Sorry, this make trouble with you.
Bitter Harvest is the latest (2017 film)?
We were convert the movie to check the time. We can not reproduce.
Please help me find the issue
Is it missing part when you copy to main movie(or clone an iso)?
Use the main movies result convert to mp4. if it also missing time, update the file to us.
Using the the latest version 10045.

signals

edistoriverrat,
This really does not happen very often, I doubt you will find missing content on many conversions. This is not related to Movie Server. I have also standardized on MP4 with a house full of Apples and have had good results.

cholla

signals .
I don't understand what would cause the problem edistoriverrat has with minutes missing from the first part of the movie. It's not just that a shorter Title is selected.

Usually an "edit" feature has to be used to cut a part of a movie out.
I haven't tried to see if Ripper has any such editing feature .
Even if it does edistoriverrat isn't using it .
At least he hasn't posted anything to indicate he is.

What would cause Ripper to make an edit type cut like this ?

cholla

@ edistoriverrat ,
I think I have figured out the problem looking at various information sources.
The first problem is Bitter Harvest is a very new release. The other conversions to .mp4s that are "missing time" probably were very new releases at the time of conversion. The problem with this is DVDFab sometimes has to get "bug" reports on a new release to find new encryption or copy protections. That is why new versions come out so often.
When you ripped the "Full Movie" the copy protections removed were good for playing from the DVD compliant format. So would have burned to a dual layer DVD correctly.

When you rip the "Full Movie" you get everything including any .ifo that directs DVD Ripper to a "dummy" or incorrect Title set.
Of course DVD Copy should remove all the copy protections but with a new release it can let new copy protections slip by that won't prevent the "Full Movie" from copying or working on a DVD.
Those copy protections apparently can "redirect" DVD Riper to select an incorrect Title set.
Until DVDFab developers know about the problem & write new code to correct this.
This can be movie specific.
Also I don't believe the there is actual time missing from your .mp4s.
What has happened is the copy protections directed DVD Ripper to select a "Dummy" Title set that copied the .vobs in the wrong order. This makes the movie in the .mp4 start with VTS_01_2.VOB or VTS_01_3.VOB for example. VTS_01_1.VOB may be somewhere in the middle or at the end of the movie.(Of course the Title sets for a specific movie can have a different file name VTS_03_2.VOB for example). The end result is the same.
Once a movie isn't as new a release & problems have been reported to DVDFab they correct the problem if possible . Then DVD Ripper will select the correct Title set automatically.
So with a very new release it is a good idea to come to the forum & see if others are having a problem with a movie. Then if you find information select the correct Title set manually.
Or wait a while for the problems to be reported & corrected. That is what I usually do & I seldom have any problems with a movie.

cholla

I wanted to add a bit to the above for clarification.

Some of the fake titles can have only part of the movie. In ripper you can tell sometimes by the length fab picks the longest run time which is mostly correct although some movies fake titles will all have the same run time so then look at the soundtrack and sub titles there should be a full movie soundtrack (usually a 6 channel AC3 same as AC-3/5.1) and subtitles if not its fake but then sometimes all will contain all the above information and same run time on the soundtracks then you need to find the correct title to work with.

You can play the movie in previewer that's built in fab to see what title is playing and use it try it in version 8 of DVDFab (if you have it) normally this version gets it correct as it use's different ways of finding the correct title.

signals

Yes, you can chop and edit movies in Ripper, in two ways: using the chapter controls or the Editor, as shown in the captures. Hard to do either one accidentally.

cholla

Thanks signals,
I tried both methods & was able to remove the beginning of a movie.
I agree this would be difficult to impossible to do accidentally .
If someone was checking the settings & not paying attention the first chapter might get removed by accidentally selecting chapter 2. That would require paying very little attention .
I don't believe that is what happened to edistoriverrat.

I believe what happened to the movies edistoriverra has the first part missing was cause by:
Ripping very new releases .
The copy protection misdirected DVD Ripper to select a "dummy" Title set that was missing the first part of the movie or had it in the incorrect order.
If the release had been a bit older then reports to DVDFab developers would have been made & the problem fixed .
This is why I usually leave very new releases alone .
Wait till problems have been reported & fixed.
I almost never have a problem with an incorrectly selected title.

edistoriverrat

another movie

So far, I have found one more movie that is missing the first segment. (The Assignment)

signals

Is that the DVD or BD?

Dora

Hi edistoriverrat
I have send a PM , please check it.
We need the source to reproduce it.　

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