Paramount Plus No Longer Downloads Subtitles

weavermovies

This is a list of the last 11 videos I have downloaded from Paramount Plus.....

(1) ALL THE RIGHT MOVES
(2) ALONG CAME A SPIDER
(3) AS GOOD AS IT GETS
(4) COACH CARTER
(5) COCKTAIL
(6) EASY MONEY
(7) JERRY AND MARGE GO LARGE
(8) KING SOLOMON'S MINES
(9) LAST HOLIDAY
(10) PATRIOT GAMES
(11) WALKING TALL

None downloaded with subtitles..... Not one..... I believe most rational people would come to the conclusion that Paramount Plus has changed something which is causing their subtitles to be excluded..... I can say this because the first 87 videos I have downloaded from Paramount Plus all successfully included subtitles.....

I have included logs for 3 of the videos listed above..... Let me know if you desire to have more.....

I expect that this issue will be addressed in a timely fashion.

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october262

both Remux into file & Extract to SRT file failed ??
also see post #10 regarding the paramount plus subtitle issue - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/software-support-english/youtube-to-mp3-youtube-video-downloader/411529-no-subs-in-paramount-with-5-0-3-9

weavermovies

both Remux into file & Extract to SRT file failed ??
also see post #10 regarding the paramount plus subtitle issue - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/softwa...t-with-5-0-3-9
october262

While I respect your ability to post in a public forum..... I would appreciate a response from a forum moderator.....

The issue of subtitles for Paramount Plus..... as well as other sites..... has been allowed to be ignored for far too long then what would be considered a reasonable time period..... and part of this is that users post their suppositions and StreamFab management uses these "my daddy is better than your daddy" exchanges to their advantage and steers clear of acknowledging both the problem and their inability to correct it.....

In the past when I have mentioned the subtitle problem..... I have been given the company line and that was that..... so now..... I have given them the specifics and I want acknowledgement from StreamFab that they are working on the problem..... or..... I want them to admit that they can't fix it.....

So I say again..... thank you for your response..... I am aware of your referenced post since I was not only a contributor in that thread..... but was also called a "hijacker" by those who feel that only they have the authority to decide what is and is not a problem.....

Having said all that..... I am still awaiting a response from StreamFab management.

Mike_M

Has anyone downloaded a video for either Showtime or Paramount Plus through Amazon Prime Channels..... and if so..... did you successfully receive subtitles?
weavermovies

Funny you should ask...

1. I'm downloading *every* movie you said that didn't have subtitles thru Paramount Plus to website right now thru Amazon Prime/Paramount for testing. :)

To see if it's just no titles thru StreamFab's Paramount Plus direct website module or if it's just Paramount Plus module.

2. Every title is being fed by Paramount Plus (available with downloaded movie) thru the Paramount Plus website directly for every movie that you said you didn't get subtitles on.

I downloaded everyone of the movies utilizing another mechanism and I played each one to test that it had subtitles and played them - they all did.

Attachments:

1. Downloading right now to see if subtitles come thru on CBR/subtitle selected via Amazon Prime/Paramount+
2. Already download directly from Paramount Plus with alternate mechanism, titles are being served by Paramount and play each movie you listed.
3. A couple of Media info's just to show.

3. Testing via Amazon right now... will update on this for you with results... and my log files from Amazon Prime/Paramount test.

Mike

Mike_M

Limit of 4 files as attachments, here's the last 2 I have now, that shows that Paramount Plus website feeds subtitles for your list above.

All have subtitles, just evidently not getting via StreamFab from Paramount Plus website for those.

Will follow up with Amazon Prime/StreamFab when done.

Mike_M

First file from Amazon Prime/Paramount, Along Came a Spider, downloaded subtitle & played it.

Just tested CBR with English.

Heading off to lunch but I'd guess it's just with StreamFab Paramount Plus downloader, will confirm that rest of your files have subtitles thru Amazon Prime/Paramount after I get back from lunch.

Will also attach the logs.

weavermovies

@Mike_M..... First..... I want to thank you for expending the effort in performing these tests..... It is appreciated..... and the results will benefit all those interested in the ongoing problem of subtitles on certain websites.....

If I'm interpreting your words correctly..... through Amazon Prime Channels/Paramount Plus..... along with another third party downloader..... you were able to successfully download videos on my list with subtitles included.....

Am I correct in my understanding of your tests?

Mike_M

@Mike_M..... First..... I want to thank you for expending the effort in performing these tests..... It is appreciated..... and the results will benefit all those interested in the ongoing problem of subtitles on certain websites.....

If I'm interpreting your words correctly..... through Amazon Prime Channels/Paramount Plus..... along with another third party downloader..... you were able to successfully download videos on my list with subtitles included.....

Am I correct in my understanding of your tests?

weavermovies

Exactly.

The Paramount Plus StreamFab standalone module seems to need tweaking to get those subtitles.

Paramount Plus works thru Amazon Prime so far with 5 of the files you didn't get subtitles on thru Paramount Plus website, others are still downloading.

I expect they will work too.

weavermovies

This is such good news..... If only someone who subscribes to Showtime through Amazon Prime Channels would download a couple videos seeing if they received subtitles..... Any titles will do because of the 51 Showtime videos I have downloaded with StreamFab..... none have ever included subtitles..... but if someone wants to give it a shot..... here are a few suggestions.....

(1) Beverly Hills Cop
(2) The Hunt For Red October
(3) Internal Affairs
(4) The Longest Yard 2005
(5) Mission Impossible III

Although your test results are enough to make up my mind to change over any subscription I have which is also offered through Amazon Prime Channels..... I already have Amazon Prime so it's a no brainer..... The Prime user interface is by far the best there is.....

So now that makes Paramount Plus..... Showtime..... and Roku which StreamFab doesn't seem to be able..... or is unwilling..... to make subtitles available.....

I'm a very cynical person..... but instead of allowing that trait to manifest itself with any supposition as to why..... I'll be thankful for what you're inquisitive nature has uncovered today and let it go at that.....

Again..... on behalf of all those who will benefit from your findings..... Thank You!

Gimpod

I'm having the same issue "Paramount+ won't download subtitles." period! You can watch the video with subtitles in your browser (ie.. Firefox) just fine. This broke after upgrading from Ver 5.0.3.7, even wiping Streamfsb clean and installing 5.0.3.7 didn't work.

Gimpod

Never mind Read post #10 as october262; suggested,hope they get it fixed soon.

see post #10 regarding the paramount plus subtitle issue - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/software-support-english/youtube-to-mp3-youtube-video-downloader/411529-no-subs-in-paramount-with-5-0-3-9
october262

KidJoe

.... If only someone who subscribes to Showtime through Amazon Prime Channels would download a couple videos seeing if they received subtitles..... Any titles will do because of the 51 Showtime videos I have downloaded with StreamFab..... none have ever included subtitles..... but if someone wants to give it a shot..... here are a few suggestions.....

(1) Beverly Hills Cop
(2) The Hunt For Red October
(3) Internal Affairs
(4) The Longest Yard 2005
(5) Mission Impossible III
weavermovies

I'll try to test tonight

Mike_M

I'll try to test tonight

KidJoe

Mike_M

Hi Weavermovies,

Just to have this info on 1920x816 file for "Along came a Spider" via Amazon Prime/Paramount vs 1920x1080 via Paramount Plus website.

Sometimes during re-encoding of a 1920x1080 file using "High Profile" in Handbrake you can see it converted to 1920x816.

There is no resolution loss on the picture content - it's just a decision not to encode areas of the 16:9 source that don't contain picture content and instead contain black (the bars).

It's saving space by not actually encoding the black bars that some films have at top and bottom.

I can't tell any difference in quality.

Regards,

Attachments:

Side by side comparison of images played full screen on a high resolution monitor (2560x1440).
StreamFab showing the 1920x816 as 1080p
Media info for both

KidJoe

This is such good news..... If only someone who subscribes to Showtime through Amazon Prime Channels would download a couple videos seeing if they received subtitles..... Any titles will do because of the 51 Showtime videos I have downloaded with StreamFab..... none have ever included subtitles..... but if someone wants to give it a shot..... here are a few suggestions.....

(1) Beverly Hills Cop
(2) The Hunt For Red October
(3) Internal Affairs
(4) The Longest Yard 2005
(5) Mission Impossible III

Although your test results are enough to make up my mind to change over any subscription I have which is also offered through Amazon Prime Channels..... I already have Amazon Prime so it's a no brainer..... The Prime user interface is by far the best there is.....

So now that makes Paramount Plus..... Showtime..... and Roku which StreamFab doesn't seem to be able..... or is unwilling..... to make subtitles available.....

I'm a very cynical person..... but instead of allowing that trait to manifest itself with any supposition as to why..... I'll be thankful for what you're inquisitive nature has uncovered today and let it go at that.....

Again..... on behalf of all those who will benefit from your findings..... Thank You!
weavermovies

Question. How did you download the "51 Showtime videos"? There isn't a Showtime downloader for StreamFab? Was it via the web site and MPD or M3U8? or ??

Anyway, first download, Hunt for Red October from Showtime Channel of Amazon Prime, using the Amazon Downloader in stream fab
(i'm out of attachment space in the forum, so "code" of text from MediaInfo is my only option)

[code]
General
Complete name : F:\DVDFab Downloader\Amazon\The Hunt for Red October.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 7.89 GiB
Duration : 2 h 15 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 331 kb/s
Collection : The Hunt for Red October
Track name : The Hunt for Red October
Description : Alec Baldwin and Sean Connery star in this classic military thriller about a Soviet submarine captain gone renegade and the CIA analyst convinced the sub skipper wants to defect.
Recorded date : 1990
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100
Cover : Yes

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 15 min
Bit rate : 7 683 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.155
Stream size : 7.28 GiB (92%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : ec-3
Duration : 2 h 15 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 621 MiB (8%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

Text #1
ID : 4
Format : Timed Text
Muxing mode : sbtl
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 2 h 12 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 69 b/s
Frame rate : 0.439 FPS
Stream size : 66.8 KiB (0%)
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Default : Yes
Forced : No
Alternate group : 3

Text #2
ID : 5
Format : Timed Text
Muxing mode : sbtl
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 2 h 12 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 69 b/s
Frame rate : 0.439 FPS
Stream size : 66.8 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Alternate group : 3
[/code]

Mission Impossible 3 from Showtime Channel of Amazon Prime (using amazon downloader in StreamFab)
[code]General
Complete name : F:\DVDFab Downloader\Amazon\Mission_ Impossible III.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 7.96 GiB
Duration : 2 h 5 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 045 kb/s
Collection : Mission: Impossible III
Track name : Mission: Impossible III
Description : Tom Cruise stars in this blockbuster 'Mission: Impossible' sequel. Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise), the master of spy craft and disguise, faces his most wrenching enemy yet in the form of Owen Davian, a ruthless international arms dealer who kidnaps his fiancee.
Recorded date : 2006
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100
Cover : Yes

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate : 8 397 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.169
Stream size : 7.39 GiB (93%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : ec-3
Duration : 2 h 5 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 576 MiB (7%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

Text
ID : 4
Format : Timed Text
Muxing mode : sbtl
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 58 b/s
Frame rate : 0.357 FPS
Stream size : 52.7 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Alternate group : 3[/code]

They both have subs.

The others are queued up and downloading, but its been a long day, so I'll post the results in the morning, however they ALL showed EN subtitles in the download settings dialog box (i.e. screen where you pick resolution, audio, etc) so I'm expecting them to have subtitles included.

Oh and for the record, on the VIP Settings tab I have:
Amazon Region: Auto
Video Format: MP4
Video Codec: H265
Audio Channel: Multi-Channel 5.1 (EAC3/AC3)
Video Resolution: Full HD 1080p
Download HBO Max videos in 4K HDR10/Dolby vision if available: Checked
Subtitle Format: Remux into file
Pre-Select Audio Language: Same as UI Language
Pre-Select Subtitle Language: UI, ENU
Always download the forced subtitle: checked

And when downloading, I always select CVBR and the highest resolution/size available.

KidJoe

Hi Weavermovies,

Just to have this info on 1920x816 file for "Along came a Spider" via Amazon Prime/Paramount vs 1920x1080 via Paramount Plus website.

Sometimes during re-encoding of a 1920x1080 file using "High Profile" in Handbrake you can see it converted to 1920x816.

There is no resolution loss on the picture content - it's just a decision not to encode areas of the 16:9 source that don't contain picture content and instead contain black (the bars).

It's saving space by not actually encoding the black bars that some films have at top and bottom.

I can't tell any difference in quality.

Regards,

Attachments:

Side by side comparison of images played full screen on a high resolution monitor (2560x1440).
StreamFab showing the 1920x816 as 1080p
Media info for both
Mike_M

Keep in mind, the 1920x816 has a 10,000kb/s bit rate, so it is compressed less, and should give an overall better picture quality than the 1920x1080 with 4500kb/s bit rate. You might not see it in a single freeze frame, but if there is a lot of motion in a scene it might be more noticeable. Or where there is a scene with gradual color gradation (like a night sky that transitions from light blue to dark blue), you might see banding in the color changes, rather than a smooth.

KidJoe

Beverly Hills Cop from Showtime Channel of Amazon Prime (using amazon downloader in StreamFab)

has subtitles
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Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 6.53 GiB
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 899 kb/s
Collection : Beverly Hills Cop
Track name : Beverly Hills Cop
Description : The heat is on in this fast paced action-comedy starring Eddie Murphy as Axel Foley, a street smart Detroit cop tracking down his best friend's killer in Beverly Hills.
Recorded date : 1984
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100
Cover : Yes

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate : 8 251 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.166
Stream size : 6.05 GiB (93%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 3
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID : ec-3
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 481 MiB (7%)
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

Text
ID : 4
Format : Timed Text
Muxing mode : sbtl
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 1 h 44 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 85 b/s
Frame rate : 0.568 FPS
Stream size : 65.0 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Alternate group : 3
[/code]

KidJoe

Rather than pasting the code again... Yes, Internal Affairs from Showtime Channel of Amazon Prime (using amazon downloader in StreamFab) does have sub titles.

The Longest Yard 2005 I don't see under Showtime on Amazon Prime. Searching shows it as pay to buy/rent and does not have the option to watch or watch via Showtime like it does with other movies included with Showtime..

Cats4U

The Longest Yard 2005 I don't see under Showtime on Amazon Prime. Searching shows it as pay to buy/rent and does not have the option to watch or watch via Showtime like it does with other movies included with Showtime..
KidJoe

According to Justwatch (https://www.justwatch.com/) or Trakt (https://trakt.tv/) the only subscription service you can get it through right now is the Roku Channel if you have their AMC+ option. Amazon also carries AMC+ but best I can tell, The Longest Yard 2005 is not part of it. I didn't look at AMC+ directly which supposedly can be downloaded with the StreamFab DRM MPD Downloader.

october262

According to Justwatch (https://www.justwatch.com/) or Trakt (https://trakt.tv/) the only subscription service you can get it through right now is the Roku Channel if you have their AMC+ option. Amazon also carries AMC+ but best I can tell, The Longest Yard 2005 is not part of it. I didn't look at AMC+ directly which supposedly can be downloaded with the StreamFab DRM MPD Downloader.
Cats4U

it's on Paramount+ see imdb.com - The Longest Yard 2005