PBS Shows won't remux the subtitles (You Tube DL)

TomdeOldMan

Previously posted in another thread about wrong subtitles.

The PBS show "Finding Your Roots" indicates subtitles, but when downloading, the subtitles are not remuxed into the output file.

[ATTACH]n426473[/ATTACH]

TomdeOldMan

Here is the resulting output file

and log
[ATTACH]n426475[/ATTACH]

jpp72

Previously posted in another thread about wrong subtitles.

The PBS show "Finding Your Roots" indicates subtitles, but when downloading, the subtitles are not remuxed into the output file.

TomdeOldMan

The scripts i gave you will download the subtitles. With the video or by themselves. Or are you saying StreamFab downloads them but they just are not muxed?

If they are not being downloaded by StreamFab and you just can't figure out the scripts, here are the subs for season 9:

https://gofile.io/d/H7K25z

Cats4U

Jack,
Are you bypassing PBS's Passport somehow or have you subscribed to Passport?
I went to TomdeOldMan's PBS station and was going to give it a try but I saw it was locked up with Passport. So, I decided to pick two shows that did not need Passport. I set it up my normal way (which seemed to match Tom's way) 1080p, x264, MKV, and remux to file. Both video downloaded fine and contained subtitles. I didn't want to post anything about it because I wasn't using StreamFab 6.1.2.6. I was still using my modified 6.1.2.4 with the latest FFMpeg nightly (at the time of 6.1.2.4's release), MKVMerge 76 (77 is out now), and the latest MediaInfo.dll, aria2c.exe, and AtomicParsley. I wouldn't know if 6.1.2.6 was bad and the unmodified 6.1.2.4 was good or if my modifications fixed it so it didn't seem fair to post it.

TomdeOldMan

Jack,
Are you bypassing PBS's Passport somehow or have you subscribed to Passport?
I went to TomdeOldMan's PBS station and was going to give it a try but I saw it was locked up with Passport. So, I decided to pick two shows that did not need Passport. I set it up my normal way (which seemed to match Tom's way) 1080p, x264, MKV, and remux to file. Both video downloaded fine and contained subtitles. I didn't want to post anything about it because I wasn't using StreamFab 6.1.2.6. I was still using my modified 6.1.2.4 with the latest FFMpeg nightly (at the time of 6.1.2.4's release), MKVMerge 76 (77 is out now), and the latest MediaInfo.dll, aria2c.exe, and AtomicParsley. I wouldn't know if 6.1.2.6 was bad and the unmodified 6.1.2.4 was good or if my modifications fixed it so it didn't seem fair to post it.
Cats4U

I have passport. What shows did you download. I'd like to try them, to see if the problem is show specific.

Thanks.

jpp72

Jack,
Are you bypassing PBS's Passport somehow or have you subscribed to Passport?
I went to TomdeOldMan's PBS station and was going to give it a try but I saw it was locked up with Passport. So, I decided to pick two shows that did not need Passport. I set it up my normal way (which seemed to match Tom's way) 1080p, x264, MKV, and remux to file. Both video downloaded fine and contained subtitles. I didn't want to post anything about it because I wasn't using StreamFab 6.1.2.6. I was still using my modified 6.1.2.4 with the latest FFMpeg nightly (at the time of 6.1.2.4's release), MKVMerge 76 (77 is out now), and the latest MediaInfo.dll, aria2c.exe, and AtomicParsley. I wouldn't know if 6.1.2.6 was bad and the unmodified 6.1.2.4 was good or if my modifications fixed it so it didn't seem fair to post it.
Cats4U

I bypass passport. Not gonna pay for something i never use and has piss-poor "security".

First i tried with yt-dlp and it downloaded no problem and i had the subtitles.

Downloaded all subtitles for season 9 in less than 10 clicks using my scripts. Took more clicks to list all episodes than actually downloading lol.

Then i tried with StreamFab 6.1.2.6 and it didn't download the subtitles. Saving to MKV.

I guess i could try with 6.1.2.5 that is also installed on my US Providers Downloading Machine.

It's just weird because the subtitles are in plain .vtt or .srt so no need to go through the same hoops as with DASH subtitles. It's probably that they changed the yt-dlp command-line and it messed up the subs downloading.

TomdeOldMan

I bypass passport. Not gonna pay for something i never use and has piss-poor "security".

jpp72

We watch a lot of PBS shows, including Finding Your Roots, Nova, Nature, Secrets of the Dead, some Masterpiece series, Great Performances, and so on. I like to support PBS so I have donated enough to enable Passport.

Cats4U

I have passport. What shows did you download. I'd like to try them, to see if the problem is show specific.

Thanks.
TomdeOldMan

The shows I downloaded were American Masters S35E08 - Ballerina Boys and something called Mossback's Northwest: Druid On The Columbia. I didn't realize that the Mossback shows were so short until after I downloaded it.

Cats4U

I bypass passport. Not gonna pay for something i never use and has piss-poor "security".

That's interesting about the "security". Are you saying that you can get audio/video/subtitles or just the subtitles? I've seen the latter before with IDM or Tubedigger where I'd get a warning that I couldn't get a certain show but the subtitles were sitting there for the grabbing.
I've never had to get Passport myself for anything I wanted from PBS yet. The British shows are usually aired in the UK six months before they appear on PBS so it's just a matter of torrenting (or in your case, newsservering.) Also, PBS makes available the shows usually for 7 days online without Passport at the time of broadcast. Not all PBS stations broadcast at the same time or date and so it is possible to search around and find a station that still has the show you want available online without Passport.

jpp72

That's interesting about the "security". Are you saying that you can get audio/video/subtitles or just the subtitles?
Cats4U

I get the whole shebang yes.

The reason for the quotes around "security" is because it really isn't security. It's just a client-side overlay. So you can go to the video you want to play and literally delete the overlay with the Developer Tools. You inspect the page and delete the divs of class passport__overlay, passport-screen, player-overlay__inner and player-overlay and you can play the video in your browser.

Since those divs are nested, just deleting the top div player-overlay gets the job done.

Since yt-dlp doesn't actually render the page but downloads the .m3u8 and JSON info, you can just feed it the URL and it will just download. Should be the same for StreamFab. Just go to the page and it will detect the m3u8 and you can queue/download the video without issue (well, besides the subs not downloading).

This is not the 1st time i have seen paywalls were the video loads in the background and you can't click on the play button because there is an overlay. Delete the overlay and bam you are good to go.

Other times, video loads but there is no play button at all. But since the video loaded, you just sniff the .m3u8 or .mpd and feed that to yt-dlp and it will download.

I have no issue with paying for stuff i use but i don't watch PBS at all and i am in Canada. I wanted to see if it was a yt-dlp bug or a StreamFab bug and it is a StreamFab bug.

october262

That's interesting about the "security". Are you saying that you can get audio/video/subtitles or just the subtitles? I've seen the latter before with IDM or Tubedigger where I'd get a warning that I couldn't get a certain show but the subtitles were sitting there for the grabbing.
I've never had to get Passport myself for anything I wanted from PBS yet. The British shows are usually aired in the UK six months before they appear on PBS so it's just a matter of torrenting (or in your case, newsservering.) Also, PBS makes available the shows usually for 7 days online without Passport at the time of broadcast. Not all PBS stations broadcast at the same time or date and so it is possible to search around and find a station that still has the show you want available online without Passport.
Cats4U

the browser addon called the stream detector will grab the video & subtitles from PBS.

Cats4U

I get the whole shebang yes.

The reason for the quotes around "security" is because it really isn't security. It's just a client-side overlay. So you can go to the video you want to play and literally delete the overlay with the Developer Tools. You inspect the page and delete the divs of class passport__overlay, passport-screen, player-overlay__inner and player-overlay and you can play the video in your browser.

Since those divs are nested, just deleting the top div player-overlay gets the job done.

jpp72

Sounds sort of like with the New York Times website. If you turn off the Java script with uBlock Origin and you can read any article you want rather than having a pop-up telling you you can't without paying. Good to know. Thank you.

I see October recommends Stream Detector. Great program. I use it mainly to get the CDN address (which is basically what you are doing with the Developer Tools) so I can do a latency check via tracert to discover the possible cause of download slowness. I used to propose it to people here that were having slowness issues but I either got ignored or I was accused of being a know-it-all wannabe staff member or a lecturer so I gave up giving helpful advice like that. It interfered with their ability to blame everything on StreamFab. It's refreshing to talk with you guys that want to explore the reasons why for things.

Cats4U

Jack,
You are the greatest. My wife wanted to watch a series on PBS that had appeared on air at a prior time and the episodes were showing they were all locked by Passport. In the past I never would have even thought to get around it but with your comments I decided to give it a try. It turned out that I didn't even have to do anything with Developer Tools or Stream Detector. I loaded up the episode and was going to try to get the CDN address (one way or the other) and I noticed that IDM had put up a button saying "Download this video". Usually in cases like this clicking on it would say that it's a proprietary file and I can't download it. Not this time. The CDN address had already been determined and there were various resolutions to download. I chose 1080p and it was downloaded in no time at all.
I used to believe in giving to PBS until, a long time ago, I gave money at one of their telethons for a certain show, Eastenders, and 3 months later they took it off the air. Never again.

jpp72

Jack,
You are the greatest. My wife wanted to watch a series on PBS that had appeared on air at a prior time and the episodes were showing they were all locked by Passport. In the past I never would have even thought to get around it but with your comments I decided to give it a try. It turned out that I didn't even have to do anything with Developer Tools or Stream Detector. I loaded up the episode and was going to try to get the CDN address (one way or the other) and I noticed that IDM had put up a button saying "Download this video". Usually in cases like this clicking on it would say that it's a proprietary file and I can't download it. Not this time. The CDN address had already been determined and there were various resolutions to download. I chose 1080p and it was downloaded in no time at all.
I used to believe in giving to PBS until, a long time ago, I gave money at one of their telethons for a certain show, Eastenders, and 3 months later they took it off the air. Never again.
Cats4U

hehehe glad i could help. I first noticed this when there was a site that said i needed to login to play the file but saw my MPD detector said it found something. That's when i realized the "security" was client-side so out came the DEV tools to play it in the browser. If you are just downloading then yeah no need for developer tools ;)

TomdeOldMan

This subtitles being recognized, but not being remuxed into the show continues to be a problem with PBS shows in SF 6.1.2.8

Will this be addressed or is it on the back burner like the subtitle problem for Star Trek Strange New Worlds and Hawaii Five-0?

As a post script, the "Turbo-Speed" doesn't make any difference in actual download speed using the You Tube Downloader for the PBS shows.

TomdeOldMan

This subtitles being recognized, but not being remuxed into the show continues to be a problem with PBS shows in SF 6.1.2.8

Will this be addressed or is it on the back burner like the subtitle problem for Star Trek Strange New Worlds and Hawaii Five-0?.
TomdeOldMan

Same Problem continues with 6129 for both the PBS no remux subtitle operation and the subtitle problem for Paramount+ ST Strange New Worlds and Hawaii Five-O.

TomdeOldMan

PBS shows have the subtitles being recognized, and now they are being remuxed. This appears to have been resolved with SF 6130.

I will continue to test other PBS shows to make sure this is finally fixed. If so, hooray!

TomdeOldMan

PBS shows have the subtitles being recognized, and now they are being remuxed. This appears to have been resolved with SF 6130.

I will continue to test other PBS shows to make sure this is finally fixed. If so, hooray!
TomdeOldMan

Maybe I wrote too soon. The PBS that remuxed the subtitle was a Antiques Roadshow. I'm having on going problems with Finding Your Roots, mostly because they don't close cleanly. I'm not sure what's going on, but they need to do better.

One of the problems is that the PBS / You Tube DL) doesn't offer an option to add the show to the queue, only cancel or download now. If I go for download now, if there is already a download running (PBS or other), the system will start the new download. Thus, I ended up with three Finding your Roots downloading at the same time. They all hung at the end and when they finally closed, no subtitles were muxed.

I really wish the downloaders would all behave the same or at least provide an "add to queue" option for the pbs.org shows.

TomdeOldMan

PBS.org and subtitles -- Aargh! (SF 6130)

Shows inconsistently remux the subtitles. So far, in my testing:

Antiques Roadshow --
S26 E16 Vintage Palm Springs, Hour 1, subtitles not remuxed.
S27 E01 Filoli, Hour 1, remuxed subtitles
S27 E02 Santa Fe’s Museum Hill, Hour 1, remuxed subtitles
S27 E03 Santa Fe’s Museum Hill, Hour 2, subtitles not remuxed
S27 E04 Santa Fe’s Museum Hill, Hour 3, remuxed subtitles
S27 E05 Cheekwood Estate & Gardens, Hour 1, remuxed subtitles

Finding Your Roots --
Season 7 & 9, 12 total episodes tested, Subtitles exist (via Chrome browser), and are displayed as available in SF, but are not remuxed into the shows.

Nature --
S41 E01 Running with the Beest, remuxed subtitles

Nova --
S50 E01 London Super Tunnel, remuxed subtitles

I am continuing to test the PBS.org shows.

I have noted that the downloading that SF displays is inconsistent. While watching the SF activity via Windows 10 task manager, the display does not show Processing when the Task Manager indicates that the show is no longer being downloaded, but processed.

Edit Add: The display "Processed" varies with the show. Sometimes it is there and sometimes it isn't. Another inconsistent display and action.

Cats4U

At this point StreamFab is not the right tool to use to download from PBS and hope to get subtitles. May I suggest you purchase either Tubedigger or Internet Download Manager (IDM). Or as has been suggested previously, learn to use yt-dlp or the many GUI programs that use it.