Marvel Shows originally from Netflix now on Disney+ missing forced subs

AGuyWithAComputer

I recently downloaded Marvel's Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders and The Punisher from Disney. All of these shows were originally on Netflix. They seem to be just direct ports of the shows from Netflix to Disney with no change. Netflix stored the Forced Subs as SRT files, where Disney usually has this burned in.

Specifically noticeable in Daredevil Season 1 EP 4 where half of the episode is spoken in Russan. You can clearly see the dialog with closed captions enabled.

Germania

Netflix stored the Forced Subs as SRT files, where Disney usually has this burned in.

Specifically noticeable in Daredevil Season 1 EP 4 where half of the episode is spoken in Russan.
AGuyWithAComputer

forced en (and more) are separate (vtt like NF earlier)

I can select and dl Marvels Daredevil.s01e04 en forced without problems:

AGuyWithAComputer

It was not an option for me last week. Maybe they already fixed it. I'll have to check again when my current run of recent episodes finish downloading.

Germania

It was not an option for me last week. Maybe they already fixed it.
AGuyWithAComputer

en forced is not offered for s01e01 so you need to play s01e04 before analyzing ..
.. and D+ has not forced for all languages - in Germany is not de forced offered:

D+ subs offer for Marvels Daredevil.s01e04:

AGuyWithAComputer

That's the problem. This was an issue with Netflix from back when this software launched. If Episode 1 did not have forced it would not show it as an option.

Since Disney+ starts analyzing the moment I click the show, it always analyzes episode 1.

It was a royal pain to get it to analyze episode 4.

Whatever they did to fix this with Netflix, they need to now do with D+

Cats4U

Since Disney+ starts analyzing the moment I click the show, it always analyzes episode 1.

It was a royal pain to get it to analyze episode 4.
AGuyWithAComputer

If I understand your situation correctly, that can be remedied simple by turning off the automatic analysis in your Settings.

AGuyWithAComputer

Yes, I turned that off. Still, had to get it to start playing the episode. Which of course the analyze button is greyed out for. Stop the episode, go back out to the home screen. go back to the series and repeat till the resume episode button is there and then you can hit analyze. A lot of extra work. And you have to know which episode actually has forced subs. And you figure that out before they pull it off the service.

Something that can be fixed if they do a little extra analysis

Germania

Stop the episode, go back out to the home screen. go back to the series
and repeat till the resume episode button is there and then you can hit analyze. A lot of extra work.
AGuyWithAComputer

I click play (on s01e04) and click back (arrow) and click (manual) analyze
three clicks - what a "royal pain"

> Something that can be fixed if they do a little extra analysis

How this? - without analyzing all episodes? (perhaps >100)

And if so, the next user writes: Hey, I selected en-forced for s01e01
but it's not dl - so fix it .. (but it is not offered by D+)

AnttDvdFab

Yes, I turned that off. Still, had to get it to start playing the episode. Which of course the analyze button is greyed out for. Stop the episode, go back out to the home screen. go back to the series and repeat till the resume episode button is there and then you can hit analyze. A lot of extra work. And you have to know which episode actually has forced subs. And you figure that out before they pull it off the service.

Something that can be fixed if they do a little extra analysis
AGuyWithAComputer

I haven't tested in this exact scenario (don't have D+ anymore) - but did you tell it to always download forced subtitles in the config screen? I have that checked and *usually* don't have issues.

AGuyWithAComputer

I haven't tested in this exact scenario (don't have D+ anymore) - but did you tell it to always download forced subtitles in the config screen? I have that checked and *usually* don't have issues.

AnttDvdFab

Yes, that is enabled

AGuyWithAComputer

I click play (on s01e04) and click back (arrow) and click (manual) analyze
three clicks - what a "royal pain"
Germania

This was not the experience for me.

you forgot the part about having to know an episode has forced subs, and which episode. Am I to manually check each episode?

> Something that can be fixed if they do a little extra analysis

How this? - without analyzing all episodes? (perhaps >100)
Germania

It is how Netflix works currently. And it doesn't analyze each episode.

And if so, the next user writes: Hey, I selected en-forced for s01e01
but it's not dl - so fix it .. (but it is not offered by D+)
Germania

Hasn't been issue since the software was released...

Germania

Hasn't been issue since the software was released...
AGuyWithAComputer

Of course not, because you can't select an unoffered subs for an episiode

> It is how Netflix works currently.

If I analyze a series (default s01e01) and the first episode
has no de forced but the second epi, I can't see/select de forced
for the whole serie (without analyzing s01e02) - so it's the same like D+

So the only difference is "Always download the forced subtitle"
(what is useless if I don't like always manually deselect non forced subs
because I can't preselect de forced without de, what I would prefer)

And in the case of D+, the other behavior is due to the unusual name (see #4)
of the forced sub: en--forced-- and yes, that should be easy to solve

AGuyWithAComputer

Of course not, because you can't select an unoffered subs for an episiode

> It is how Netflix works currently.

If I analyze a series (default s01e01) and the first episode
has no de forced but the second epi, I can't see/select de forced
for the whole serie (without analyzing s01e02) - so it's the same like D+
Germania

Germania, they changed that behavior for Netflix like 5 years ago. So that even if a single episode in season 5 of a show has forced subs, it shows the option to select forced subs when you select the show to download on episode 1 of season 1.

I am just making the developers aware this issue has now moved to D+ with these shows that originally first aired on Netflix.

I'm not sure why you are arguing with me.

Germania

If I analyze a series (default s01e01) and the first episode
has no de forced but the second epi, I can't see/select de forced
for the whole serie (without analyzing s01e02) - so it's the same like D+
Germania

So that even if a single episode in season 5 of a show has forced subs,
it shows the option to select forced subs when you select the show to download on episode 1 of season 1.
..
I'm not sure why you are arguing with me.
AGuyWithAComputer

Then you must have a different StreamFab than I do.

For example Cassandra offer no german forced:

but episode 2 have german forced:

so I can select this only after analyze epi 2 - exactly as I wrote.

AGuyWithAComputer

What I said was true the last time I used Netflix with English. I haven't had Netflix in so long they removed my account.

Also, why are you constantly knocking down something that should be fixed? This kind of shit is why I rarely look at these forums anymore unless I need something. To many a-holes that think their opinion is more important than mine

Germania

What I said was true the last time I used netflix with English.
AGuyWithAComputer

And I want to argue just because I realize what is a fact for me?
I didn't make that up to annoy you.

AGuyWithAComputer

you could say something like "yeah that's a good Idea it should work that way" or "I'm having that issue too". Or even better not say anything. But no took the do it my way approach. Maybe they'd actually fix the problem instead of ignoring it.

Germania

you could say something like .."I'm having that issue too". Or even better not say anything.
AGuyWithAComputer

I can select and dl Marvels Daredevil.s01e04 en forced without problems
Germania

If I analyze a series (default s01e01) and the first episode
has no de forced but the second epi, I can't see/select de forced
for the whole serie (without analyzing s01e02) - so it's the same like D+
Germania

So that would be a lie - why should I tell an untruth?
And I was able to prove both with screenshots

AGuyWithAComputer

So that would be a lie - why should I tell an untruth?
And I was able to prove both with screenshots
Germania

actually, you do have the same problem. it's not detecting subs on the first episode when there are forced subs on a later one. at the very least the always download forced subs in checkbox isn't working. and you proved that with screenshots.

Germania

I have never claimed that it is not a problem ..
.. but merely stated that, contrary to your statement for NF,
it was never any different for me.

We both can't change SF behavior ..
.. so it's useless to discuss it