Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?

Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?MrMayorit's being talked about over here on discord, their banning accounts of people that rip stuff from Amazon.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.Cats4Usee here - https://www.reddit.com/r/Streamfab/comments/1lxr0cs/amazon_warning_message/?share_id=Va4HTG25G4pME9VIgjKGP&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

A few quick thoughts- AWS "knows" when you request each title, if you have the regular account (with ads) it might be triggering no ads watched tripwire, also, they might have a trigger to see if you "got the title" but Amazon's player doesn't register the title as "watched"The short of it is: it's naïve to assume that someone at amazon hasn't worked out what the difference between genuine player and what SF does (even just going off the ads, recall it's an avenue stream that SF deprives of the corporation that's posting billions in net profit)

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in this

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at all

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in thisbricksYou are free to believe whatever you like, or you can set up an injector between SF and AWS and find out yourself by pushing random errors that claim to befrom AWS toward SF :rolleyes:And in the case of a latter (purchased, downloaded, cancelled), AWS registers "access" but no corresponding "play," the "play" would prevent cancellation, but the cancellation happened, hence you get a discrepancy triggered

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at allphelingsI've long been saying all this nonsense from the vendors actually enables the scene and download sites get rich at the expense of amazon

Reddit had several people; in fact, one thread was deleted.I don't know what is setting this in motion. I haven't seen anyone post about it here in the forum till now.In the other deleted thread, it was from Amazon uk. Not sure if there is just an issue with the UK version, or it's something that will spread out over all of Amazon, including Amazon.com.I suppose in a way, they may have found something they are trying and focusing on; many I know do 100 max downloads a day. I know there were times when I did 100 per day for several days in a row.Some are wondering why just getting the email now; it could be that they just started to implement it. Now I don't have the demand to do 100 per day. I do still see where it can be hard. We talked before about an increase to 200 or more for Amazon because people are buying Paramount and many other providers through Amazon. If you have 3 other providers and count Amazon as well, that's 4, divide 100 by 4 that gives you 25 downloads per provider per day.All that can be done is watch the situation, and if you need 100, maybe try to spread it out at 10 to 25, then take a break and repeat.In the end, they can possibly lose money if they keep letting people download, but no matter what, it will continue, and to ban or block paying people from watching or using Prime for watching movies or shows really can cause a loss of money as well. Amazon, the last thing they need to worry about is losing money. And the added money to remove ads when Prime never had them since its inception is just that, BS.Another interesting point is that many claim most other programs record, although I know 2 that surely go out of their way to make it look as though they are downloading and not recording, but you wonder if they will cause this problem to trigger if they do either download or record.I am not even sure Amazon has a way to reply or contact them, but I feel that if I got the letter, I would want more details.Because we don't know if these people are purchasing trials and then canceling, or what else they may be doing, even maybe sharing their accounts.And people may need to stop VPN use, as that's one of the easiest things for websites to detect.Try it and check it out on reliable bank sites, etc. OR check Proxy & VPN Detection API | proxycheck.io

I think some common sense would come into play too, if the VPN use itself is not the trigger. If all you do is rip, and never actually watch shows on your Prime Video account, that would trigger me if it were my service. I try to watch shows on my Prime account quite a bit via my Apple TV and I have the full upgraded Prime subscription, as well as couple of addon channels. Sorry if that was 'captain obvious' comment, but I'm actually in midst of downloading some stuff for my new movie box in living room, some to replace ancient dvd isos of discs I purchased, as my movie box gets confused by mult-disc sets per season, so the ripped versions (e.g., Invader Zim, etc.) is way more practical. Keeping eye on this topic since top of mind. Kinda been going nuts on Amazon downloads as it was a way to get many of my Apple legit purchases as downloads for my new movie box which cannot use the Apple 'app' at all.

Warning email from Amazon

CnMcleod

Of course. with the latest version of StreamFab, shouldn't this happen? So something is wrong, am I right?

x265

Hi @x265 you are from spain? I'm from Spain. I receibed the warning mail 1th of august. The strange thing is that they sed from amazon.uk and the message is not in the spanish account box. You have to go to amazon.co.uk and log with your username to see the warning mail.
I asked to amazon.es about it and they answered me that everything is ok with my account and forget the amazon.co.uk email. I really don't know if amazon.co.uk can close an amazon.es account.

I only received the warning one but never have rented anything; I only donload series from Prime and AMC Selekt.

jpp72

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already. But does this message also appear in the message center in your amazon account?

I've yet to receive this message to my email. I'm not sure if my Wife has gotten it being that Her's is the primary on our shared account.
AGuyWithAComputer

For my Amazon US account, i got the email and it was also in messages.

For my Amazon Canada account, i got the email only and it was not in my messages.

Both emails were in my SPAM folder

slottedpig

For my Amazon US account, i got the email and it was also in messages.

For my Amazon Canada account, i got the email only and it was not in my messages.

Both emails were in my SPAM folder
jpp72

Opened a burner account after i updated the software to 6.4.2.7, have rented 2 movies and had trial p+ then also downloaded a movie included with prime sub w/ ads and also a show from prime and havent received and hopefully wont receive anything.

Elgin

Hi @x265 you are from spain? I'm from Spain. I receibed the warning mail 1th of august. The strange thing is that they sed from amazon.uk and the message is not in the spanish account box. You have to go to amazon.co.uk and log with your username to see the warning mail.
I asked to amazon.es about it and they answered me that everything is ok with my account and forget the amazon.co.uk email. I really don't know if amazon.co.uk can close an amazon.es account.

I only received the warning one but never have rented anything; I only donload series from Prime and AMC Selekt.
CnMcleod

Hi there, this is known. I have the same issue, just for my german account. The mail was sent from uk, though I never used that account for streaming. The german service has told me as well they have no information on it and that I should just ignore it.

The point is: It's still to risky. Maybe they can close the account, maybe not. Who knows for certain?

btw: over on the official reddit someone claims to have gotten the warning email by just using a VPN. Supposedly he/she never downloaded anything, nor does she/he have steamfab. Strange if true.

Sebastian001

I stand by my statement. There's an AI that does this, no one sits there sending emails.

slottedpig

I stand by my statement. There's an AI that does this, no one sits there sending emails.
Sebastian001

Can you be prosecuted for this in any country or is it just account closures etc?

TheRaven

For my Amazon US account, i got the email and it was also in messages.

For my Amazon Canada account, i got the email only and it was not in my messages.

Both emails were in my SPAM folder
jpp72

For your Amazon Canada account, was the email from Amazon.ca or Amazon.com? I only have a Canadian account, but the warning came from Amazon.com. It was not in my messages under my Canadian account, but when I changed to US the message was there. It was the only message from Amazon.com.

Sebastian001

Can you be prosecuted for this in any country or is it just account closures etc?
slottedpig

no idea

MrKrawk

Curious question. I wonder if SF's account got the email now. Maybe they don't download with it?

slottedpig

I’m doing my own testing on a new account that has never downloaded anything prior to the 6247 release, I guess we will see.

x265

I have checked the message centre on Amazon and I am not getting the message from Amazon, but that is because I use Amazon.es. However, if I go to Amazon.co.uk, the message does appear.

Anyway, I've created a new account and will see if the Amazon message appears again, since I've been using my personal account with previous versions of StreamFab, like everyone else in this thread, I suppose, so maybe that account is already on the ‘blacklist’. I'll try to use this new account a lot. I'll keep you posted.

btw.. I created the new account in Canada. Where do you receive the message from Amazon if the account is from that country? On Amazon.com? I ask because I don't receive the message on Amazon.es. I have to go to Amazon.co.uk to see the message. Thanks

AGuyWithAComputer

For my Amazon US account, i got the email and it was also in messages.

For my Amazon Canada account, i got the email only and it was not in my messages.

Both emails were in my SPAM folder
jpp72

I've checked, my message center, inbox and spam folder. And the same on my Wife's account. No Messages at all.

Since this thread started I've downloaded 2 seasons from 2 different shows available on Prime. I never rent or buy movies from prime.

Wilson.Wang

Curious question. I wonder if SF's account got the email now. Maybe they don't download with it?
MrGrackle

I have an Amazon account for many years, it‘s used for downloading videos from Amazon US/JP/UK/DE, includes for downloading Amazon Music / Audible with MusicFab, eBook with BookFab.

But I’m still not get the Amazon email or Message.

And I created a new account and download ~400 videos (Prime videos, purchased/rented videos) from Amazon US with StreamFab 6247/6248, download vides included H264/H265, 1080p/720p/480p, CBR/CVBR, EAC3/AAC audios.

Amazon Gift Card is used for Amazon Prime subscrption and purchase/rent videos.

ExpressVPN and NordVPN are used.

Also not get the Amazon email or Message.

FreddieGellar

Between late May and early June, I rented four movies to download and didn't watch them. I remembered that I could have played them in my browser when it was too late. At the end of last month, I used the Lionsgate+ and Paramount+ channel trials and downloaded a bunch of content. Yesterday morning, I got this email.

I saw in the thread that it seems to have to do with purchased or rented content. Could it also have to do with subscribed channels? Lately, I've been downloading a lot of content from Amazon in general, reaching the daily limit several days a week, every other week.

slottedpig

Between late May and early June, I rented four movies to download and didn't watch them. I remembered that I could have played them in my browser when it was too late. At the end of last month, I used the Lionsgate+ and Paramount+ channel trials and downloaded a bunch of content. Yesterday morning, I got this email.

I saw in the thread that it seems to have to do with purchased or rented content. Could it also have to do with subscribed channels? Lately, I've been downloading a lot of content from Amazon in general, reaching the daily limit several days a week, every other week.
FreddieGellar

There is no pattern thus far.

lucas Zxc

From today.

So be careful, Sirs.

Fab is not safe anymore.
gorba8.9

so, the problem is back?

MrMayor

so, the problem is back?
lucas Zxc

Who said it left?

lucas Zxc

Who said it left?
MrMayor

is that WIlson posted a comment here, which even became the answer to this post that the latest version had resolved this issue and people had stopped reporting that they had received email at the time he posted this

[QUOTE=n465868]Hi all,

We did some improvements in the new version 6247, at least that the process is same as watching the video from Amazon website when analyzing and downloading videos from Amazon in StreamFab.

It should be usefull for the Amazon warning problem.

If you want to create a new account for downloading videos but not have the another credit card, you can order an Amazon Gift Card with your main account and subscript the Amazon Prime with the gift card payment in the new account.

Wilson[/QUOTE]

lucas Zxc

Anyway, that's what I knew and heard

slottedpig

Its hard to say what is triggering the emails because not everyone is reporting and also they could have triggered before the software update, i for one have rented and downloaded a few things and grabbed stuff that was just on prime and have been fine, i dont use vpn and i use amazon.com.

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