Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?

Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?MrMayorit's being talked about over here on discord, their banning accounts of people that rip stuff from Amazon.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.Cats4Usee here - https://www.reddit.com/r/Streamfab/comments/1lxr0cs/amazon_warning_message/?share_id=Va4HTG25G4pME9VIgjKGP&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

A few quick thoughts- AWS "knows" when you request each title, if you have the regular account (with ads) it might be triggering no ads watched tripwire, also, they might have a trigger to see if you "got the title" but Amazon's player doesn't register the title as "watched"The short of it is: it's naïve to assume that someone at amazon hasn't worked out what the difference between genuine player and what SF does (even just going off the ads, recall it's an avenue stream that SF deprives of the corporation that's posting billions in net profit)

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in this

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at all

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in thisbricksYou are free to believe whatever you like, or you can set up an injector between SF and AWS and find out yourself by pushing random errors that claim to befrom AWS toward SF :rolleyes:And in the case of a latter (purchased, downloaded, cancelled), AWS registers "access" but no corresponding "play," the "play" would prevent cancellation, but the cancellation happened, hence you get a discrepancy triggered

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at allphelingsI've long been saying all this nonsense from the vendors actually enables the scene and download sites get rich at the expense of amazon

Reddit had several people; in fact, one thread was deleted.I don't know what is setting this in motion. I haven't seen anyone post about it here in the forum till now.In the other deleted thread, it was from Amazon uk. Not sure if there is just an issue with the UK version, or it's something that will spread out over all of Amazon, including Amazon.com.I suppose in a way, they may have found something they are trying and focusing on; many I know do 100 max downloads a day. I know there were times when I did 100 per day for several days in a row.Some are wondering why just getting the email now; it could be that they just started to implement it. Now I don't have the demand to do 100 per day. I do still see where it can be hard. We talked before about an increase to 200 or more for Amazon because people are buying Paramount and many other providers through Amazon. If you have 3 other providers and count Amazon as well, that's 4, divide 100 by 4 that gives you 25 downloads per provider per day.All that can be done is watch the situation, and if you need 100, maybe try to spread it out at 10 to 25, then take a break and repeat.In the end, they can possibly lose money if they keep letting people download, but no matter what, it will continue, and to ban or block paying people from watching or using Prime for watching movies or shows really can cause a loss of money as well. Amazon, the last thing they need to worry about is losing money. And the added money to remove ads when Prime never had them since its inception is just that, BS.Another interesting point is that many claim most other programs record, although I know 2 that surely go out of their way to make it look as though they are downloading and not recording, but you wonder if they will cause this problem to trigger if they do either download or record.I am not even sure Amazon has a way to reply or contact them, but I feel that if I got the letter, I would want more details.Because we don't know if these people are purchasing trials and then canceling, or what else they may be doing, even maybe sharing their accounts.And people may need to stop VPN use, as that's one of the easiest things for websites to detect.Try it and check it out on reliable bank sites, etc. OR check Proxy & VPN Detection API | proxycheck.io

I think some common sense would come into play too, if the VPN use itself is not the trigger. If all you do is rip, and never actually watch shows on your Prime Video account, that would trigger me if it were my service. I try to watch shows on my Prime account quite a bit via my Apple TV and I have the full upgraded Prime subscription, as well as couple of addon channels. Sorry if that was 'captain obvious' comment, but I'm actually in midst of downloading some stuff for my new movie box in living room, some to replace ancient dvd isos of discs I purchased, as my movie box gets confused by mult-disc sets per season, so the ripped versions (e.g., Invader Zim, etc.) is way more practical. Keeping eye on this topic since top of mind. Kinda been going nuts on Amazon downloads as it was a way to get many of my Apple legit purchases as downloads for my new movie box which cannot use the Apple 'app' at all.

Warning email from Amazon

MrKrawk

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There is no name because you can use any name. Some cards require you to activate the card so you go to their website and enter the information. The information can be whatever you want. I really thought that part was clear to everyone. The only thing that needs to be real is the address. And when I say real, I mean a real address but doesn't mean YOUR address.
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The one you showed way up in the thread is a Vanilla gift card, and the minimal activation usually involves simply a zip code and setting a PIN.
They also claim that if you activate the card to an account on their site that it also gives you fraud protection. Very often see these Vanilla ones drained so activation is a plus!

Anyway, would a detection be as simple as how SF downloads? It downloads the audio track separate from the video track. I don't imagine a set top player does that. Or a regular browser for that matter. Maybe a set top will download both simultaneously?

jpp72

The one you showed way up in the thread is a Vanilla gift card, and the minimal activation usually involves simply a zip code and setting a PIN.
They also claim that if you activate the card to an account on their site that it also gives you fraud protection. Very often see these Vanilla ones drained so activation is a plus!

Anyway, would a detection be as simple as how SF downloads? It downloads the audio track separate from the video track. I don't imagine a set top player does that. Or a regular browser for that matter. Maybe a set top will download both simultaneously?
MrGrackle

That one activates automatically as soon as you purchase it.

The one i bought online needed to be activated and i had to give a name and address but no pin since it's a virtual card.

Set-top boxes don't download, they stream, so of course it would be video and audio at the same time. Think of it like Direct Streaming in Plex.

Nexus-3

You seem very confused with how prepaid cards work.

There is no name because you can use any name. Some cards require you to activate the card so you go to their website and enter the information. The information can be whatever you want. I really thought that part was clear to everyone. The only thing that needs to be real is the address. And when I say real, I mean a real address but doesn't mean YOUR address.

You could create the Amazon account under the name Peter Pan and it would work. Obviously, that may raise eyebrows, but you can use any fake name. I have fake names for Hulu, Amazon, HBO Max and Peacock. They are all linked to prepaid cards. You do not select Prepaid anywhere. You just use the regular credit card section.

I am not trying to be a dick here, but this seems so extremely obvious to me that I am kind of shocked at some of the questions and assumptions.
jpp72

I never even heard of a prepaid card until this forum. Never had one. Never needed one. Didn't know they exist. Everything is obvious to those who already have experience.

As I said, the only option available to me to subscribe to prime using a second account was with a CC that had a name on it, and an address (which will have to match the cc details). I'm in NZ and we don't always have everything other countries have available. Not saying they're not available here, just never seen one. My wife has never seen one either and also didn't know they exist. The point seems moot now, because it would appear to sign up here, you do need a named cc and an address.

jpp72

I never even heard of a prepaid card until this forum. Never had one. Never needed one. Didn't know they exist. Everything is obvious to those who already have experience.

As I said, the only option available to me to subscribe to prime using a second account was with a CC that had a name on it, and an address (which will have to match the cc details). I'm in NZ and we don't always have everything other countries have available. Not saying they're not available here, just never seen one. My wife has never seen one either and also didn't know they exist. The point seems moot now, because it would appear to sign up here, you do need a named cc and an address.
Nexus-3

Sigh... I guess you still don't get it.

Your regular CC has your name and address attached to it. When they verify, it comes up as a match.

Prepaid Card, when they verify, it will ALWAYS match because there is either nothing attached to it or you attached WHATEVER address and even name you wanted when you activated it.

In any case, New Zealand is not North Korea so you have plenty of prepaid cards in stores and online

Visa Gift Card - The Perfect Gift for Any Occasion | Prezzy Card

Prepaid Visa Cards | New Zealand's #1 for Business | iChoose

I am just going to close this thread as it has run it's course. I have created my dummy account and started downloading. If anyone gets a message, create a new thread.

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