Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?

Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?MrMayorit's being talked about over here on discord, their banning accounts of people that rip stuff from Amazon.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.Cats4Usee here - https://www.reddit.com/r/Streamfab/comments/1lxr0cs/amazon_warning_message/?share_id=Va4HTG25G4pME9VIgjKGP&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

A few quick thoughts- AWS "knows" when you request each title, if you have the regular account (with ads) it might be triggering no ads watched tripwire, also, they might have a trigger to see if you "got the title" but Amazon's player doesn't register the title as "watched"The short of it is: it's naïve to assume that someone at amazon hasn't worked out what the difference between genuine player and what SF does (even just going off the ads, recall it's an avenue stream that SF deprives of the corporation that's posting billions in net profit)

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in this

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at all

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in thisbricksYou are free to believe whatever you like, or you can set up an injector between SF and AWS and find out yourself by pushing random errors that claim to befrom AWS toward SF :rolleyes:And in the case of a latter (purchased, downloaded, cancelled), AWS registers "access" but no corresponding "play," the "play" would prevent cancellation, but the cancellation happened, hence you get a discrepancy triggered

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at allphelingsI've long been saying all this nonsense from the vendors actually enables the scene and download sites get rich at the expense of amazon

Reddit had several people; in fact, one thread was deleted.I don't know what is setting this in motion. I haven't seen anyone post about it here in the forum till now.In the other deleted thread, it was from Amazon uk. Not sure if there is just an issue with the UK version, or it's something that will spread out over all of Amazon, including Amazon.com.I suppose in a way, they may have found something they are trying and focusing on; many I know do 100 max downloads a day. I know there were times when I did 100 per day for several days in a row.Some are wondering why just getting the email now; it could be that they just started to implement it. Now I don't have the demand to do 100 per day. I do still see where it can be hard. We talked before about an increase to 200 or more for Amazon because people are buying Paramount and many other providers through Amazon. If you have 3 other providers and count Amazon as well, that's 4, divide 100 by 4 that gives you 25 downloads per provider per day.All that can be done is watch the situation, and if you need 100, maybe try to spread it out at 10 to 25, then take a break and repeat.In the end, they can possibly lose money if they keep letting people download, but no matter what, it will continue, and to ban or block paying people from watching or using Prime for watching movies or shows really can cause a loss of money as well. Amazon, the last thing they need to worry about is losing money. And the added money to remove ads when Prime never had them since its inception is just that, BS.Another interesting point is that many claim most other programs record, although I know 2 that surely go out of their way to make it look as though they are downloading and not recording, but you wonder if they will cause this problem to trigger if they do either download or record.I am not even sure Amazon has a way to reply or contact them, but I feel that if I got the letter, I would want more details.Because we don't know if these people are purchasing trials and then canceling, or what else they may be doing, even maybe sharing their accounts.And people may need to stop VPN use, as that's one of the easiest things for websites to detect.Try it and check it out on reliable bank sites, etc. OR check Proxy & VPN Detection API | proxycheck.io

I think some common sense would come into play too, if the VPN use itself is not the trigger. If all you do is rip, and never actually watch shows on your Prime Video account, that would trigger me if it were my service. I try to watch shows on my Prime account quite a bit via my Apple TV and I have the full upgraded Prime subscription, as well as couple of addon channels. Sorry if that was 'captain obvious' comment, but I'm actually in midst of downloading some stuff for my new movie box in living room, some to replace ancient dvd isos of discs I purchased, as my movie box gets confused by mult-disc sets per season, so the ripped versions (e.g., Invader Zim, etc.) is way more practical. Keeping eye on this topic since top of mind. Kinda been going nuts on Amazon downloads as it was a way to get many of my Apple legit purchases as downloads for my new movie box which cannot use the Apple 'app' at all.

Warning email from Amazon

TheGreatOne

Hello.

I am also having issues. Just downloaded the new Jurassic World (Rebirth). The download part was fine, but man, the processing part took a long start to start, and then remux was the same. It did work eventually but took forever. I am now worried after reading the comments that this was a recode and not a download.

slottedpig

Hello.

I am also having issues. Just downloaded the new Jurassic World (Rebirth). The download part was fine, but man, the processing part took a long start to start, and then remux was the same. It did work eventually but took forever. I am now worried after reading the comments that this was a recode and not a download.
TheGreatOne

I did 3 movies before and they were almost instant, I assure you it isn’t encoding. What was your cpu usage during processing? Most likely it’s just some anomaly, just fyi even on recode the remux would be the same speed as a download.

Wilson.Wang

Hi,

All of services are Download mode, it's the mistake that does not update the article since LAST DRM issue fixed.

Wilson

Cats4U

I believe only what it's true ..
.. and "sounds like screen recording" sounds only like that

"the process is same as watching the video from Amazon website
when analyzing and downloading videos from Amazon in StreamFab"

If so I would see "Continue watching" or see it in Watch History ..
.. but as I already wrote, that's not the case for me.
Germania

And as I already wrote, I had no way of testing whether they were using recording or downloading because I'm not going anywhere near Amazon with SF. My mistake, and it's one I don't make often, was believing what the DVDFab Staff wrote. I should have realized that they provide nothing but falsehoods and propaganda.

paradox

And as I already wrote, I had no way of testing whether they were using recording or downloading ... . . . .
Cats4U

I always delete these files on any update (manual):

StreamClient.exe (the component that may re-encode)
StreamUpdate.exe (the updater)
FabReport.exe (crash reports, mine crashes but it's always my own fault)

I have a couple of custom scripts and do sone tweaks to the inbuilt Chromium too whether that makes any difference.

Streamfab is a great program that was a one-time cost. Don't be too harsh on it as it's a workaround or "hack" to protection placed on media.

Communication isn't their strong point being Chinese, but they try.

If it ever tries to re-encode, it fails. All downloads are downloads currently. and data is in are in line with *other* tools.

No dice with my nukes (post 122) AMZN account, they will not re enable it but hardly surprising. shame we can't use "gift cards" or virtual cards for subs or I could "wing it"

slottedpig

I always delete these files on any update (manual):

StreamClient.exe (the component that may re-encode)
StreamUpdate.exe (the updater)
FabReport.exe (crash reports, mine crashes but it's always my own fault)

I have a couple of custom scripts and do sone tweaks to the inbuilt Chromium too whether that makes any difference.

Streamfab is a great program that was a one-time cost. Don't be too harsh on it as it's a workaround or "hack" to protection placed on media.

Communication isn't their strong point being Chinese, but they try.

If it ever tries to re-encode, it fails. All downloads are downloads currently. and data is in are in line with *other* tools.

No dice with my nukes (post 122) AMZN account, they will not re enable it but hardly surprising. shame we can't use "gift cards" or virtual cards for subs or I could "wing it"
paradox

As far as I know you can use gift cards for subs. I made a burner account and I bought a movie with it.

slottedpig

And as I already wrote, I had no way of testing whether they were using recording or downloading because I'm not going anywhere near Amazon with SF. My mistake, and it's one I don't make often, was believing what the DVDFab Staff wrote. I should have realized that they provide nothing but falsehoods and propaganda.
Cats4U

I’m not sure why you are mad, I’m guessing you were doing work for them at one point and then the relationship soured but at this point blasting them all over the forms is bad show. Take it easy, why not make a burner account for Amazon and continue to download etc?

corey75

I can confirm that it's not screen capturing, but is downloading. Each of these eps from Amazon Apple channel took a couple minutes each. This is also with a ton of other things going on with my machine as well.

I started using a burner account a couple of weeks ago to test out the theory. I have not received any emails on my normal account or the burner as of this post. I download a lot from a bunch of the key players with amazon channels including HBO, starz, paramount, etc.

Currently at the moment, I've got these subscriptions on my normal account and have downloaded tons prior to the last couple of weeks with no warning:

My recent burner account only has an apple subscription. Both accounts are US based. I use them both with and without a VPN. It just depends on which machine is downloading. Prior to this latest incident, I've had all three machines running amazon downloading simultaneously with different shows that were long (it helped utilize my daily 100 SF credits). I have indeed stopped using my main account until further notice just to be on the safe side. Until then, I'll keep pushing this burner account and if anything changes I'll be sure and share the info.

Also, would like to mention I had been using 6.2.4.5 until the day before yesterday. I've only been on 6.2.4.7 for about 2 days. I have also purchased a few hundred movies over time and have never watched any of them on the website. I've only used streamfab to download. I've rented probably about a dozen titles, same way but never returned after downloading. Everything I've done with streamfab has been US based with all modules.

kye

I've only been using StreamFab for a couple of months, so I am fairly new here. Assuming these warnings have never happened before, I'm wondering if maybe Amazon was testing out a new detection system and only sent out notices to a limited number of people to start. That way they can play it safe and make sure there aren't a lot of false-positive complaints before rolling out the warnings more widely. If so, that could explain why there seems to be no pattern to who got the emails and who did not. I could be wrong, of course.

Sebastian001

I think the "RECODE" issue is resolved, back to the Amazon email or silence...

TheGreatOne

I did 3 movies before and they were almost instant, I assure you it isn’t encoding. What was your cpu usage during processing? Most likely it’s just some anomaly, just fyi even on recode the remux would be the same speed as a download.
slottedpig

It happens with Disney too. Just the processing and remux stage. The download is fast. Any ideas? It used to work amazing until a month or so ago. Should I do a complete uninstall and reinstall?

simchris

Downloaded 2 movies and a TV episode last night; zero issues. Latest SF. Clean install.

Sebastian001

[quote=thegreatone;n466340]

it happens with disney too. Just the processing and remux stage. The download is fast. Any ideas? It used to work amazing until a month or so ago. Should i do a complete uninstall and reinstall?[/quote]

off topic

TheGreatOne

off topic
Sebastian001

Jeez sorry! No need to be rude!

DQ1

Those of you now using a different Amazon account, how are you paying for it? Because as I see it, you can create a different account but you will need to put an address and valid payment. Both of those things identify you and match you to your main account. I guess it more steps for Amazon to take but seems like if they want to know, they will know.

slottedpig

Those of you now using a different Amazon account, how are you paying for it? Because as I see it, you can create a different account but you will need to put an address and valid payment. Both of those things identify you and match you to your main account. I guess it more steps for Amazon to take but seems like if they want to know, they will know.
DQ1

There is a post way higher up that explains how to do it.

DQ1

There is a post way higher up that explains how to do it.
slottedpig

That's super helpful thanks.

slottedpig

That's super helpful thanks.
DQ1

no problem good luck

Baker

That's super helpful thanks.
DQ1

Since I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, can someone at least offer the post number of the one that's "higher up"? ;)

phelings

As far as I know you can use gift cards for subs. I made a burner account and I bought a movie with it.
slottedpig

No need to make another account.
Buy the gift card then when you purchase ensure all your payment methods are deleted so it defaults to the gift card then the purchase goes through. You also need to have a US address in place you can change to when purchasing. Then change back after purchase and add your original card back in.
Using a VPN also enables you to do the free downloads for things on Prime that might not be on Prime in your own country.

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