Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?

Within the past week, a couple of people have posted on Reddit, receiving an email from Amazon. "Hello, We are reaching out to inform you about some concerning activity detected on your Amazon prime video account violating the Prime Video Terms of use".... Followed by mentioning section 4.k of the TOS and issuing a warning without taking any action on the account.Anybody else have seen this?MrMayorit's being talked about over here on discord, their banning accounts of people that rip stuff from Amazon.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.

Interesting! What are the circumstances behind the emails? Is the user downloading 100 files per day, possibly for several days at a time? Are they downloading from their own region, or are they VPNing to another region? In other words, what is the "activity detected on your Amazon prime video account" that is abnormal enough that they feel the need to issue a warning or to ban an account? As for the 100 files a day, the very most a people could actually watch in a single day would 48 half-hour shows. Hour long shows and movies are even less. It's very easy for them to know that you aren't just binge-watching. Greed ruins it for everybody.On the other hand, if Amazon (or anyone else) wants to ban me, that's fine with me. They'd be out subscription money for Amazon Prime and three other providers that I get over Amazon now. I wind up with more dollars in my pocket, and I'll still be able to get all the files I want via Torrenting. It's their loss, not mine. I guarantee that the time will come in a short amount of time that Amazon will offer downloads for a few extra dollars as part of their subscriptions. They don't really care that you are downloading, they just want to be the one making the money off it and not a third party like DVDFab.Cats4Usee here - https://www.reddit.com/r/Streamfab/comments/1lxr0cs/amazon_warning_message/?share_id=Va4HTG25G4pME9VIgjKGP&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

A few quick thoughts- AWS "knows" when you request each title, if you have the regular account (with ads) it might be triggering no ads watched tripwire, also, they might have a trigger to see if you "got the title" but Amazon's player doesn't register the title as "watched"The short of it is: it's naïve to assume that someone at amazon hasn't worked out what the difference between genuine player and what SF does (even just going off the ads, recall it's an avenue stream that SF deprives of the corporation that's posting billions in net profit)

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in this

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at all

This is not how it works. You can download an encrypted file without an Amazon account, just follow the link from the MPD. SF gets the decryption key and does not play the file, as recordings programs do. then, using the key, decryption module and muxer, the user receives his file. An Amazon account is required to access the MPD file and receive the key.Suspicion often arises when people often buy a TV series or a movie and after some time (for which you can download what you bought using SF) cancel the purchase, as if they bought it by mistake. many people indulge in thisbricksYou are free to believe whatever you like, or you can set up an injector between SF and AWS and find out yourself by pushing random errors that claim to befrom AWS toward SF :rolleyes:And in the case of a latter (purchased, downloaded, cancelled), AWS registers "access" but no corresponding "play," the "play" would prevent cancellation, but the cancellation happened, hence you get a discrepancy triggered

Amazons loss.Since they started the ripoff £1.99 to remove ads in addition to the Prime Video sub we are forced to pay even if we only want quick deliveries I cancel my Prime every month. I used to let it roll but now I cancel then renew as and when I need it. Sometimes weeks sometimes days but they lose out. If they stopped us being able to download stuff I would not bother. Although I don't currently have Netflix or Paramount subs if they did block downloading I wouldn't bother with them at allphelingsI've long been saying all this nonsense from the vendors actually enables the scene and download sites get rich at the expense of amazon

Reddit had several people; in fact, one thread was deleted.I don't know what is setting this in motion. I haven't seen anyone post about it here in the forum till now.In the other deleted thread, it was from Amazon uk. Not sure if there is just an issue with the UK version, or it's something that will spread out over all of Amazon, including Amazon.com.I suppose in a way, they may have found something they are trying and focusing on; many I know do 100 max downloads a day. I know there were times when I did 100 per day for several days in a row.Some are wondering why just getting the email now; it could be that they just started to implement it. Now I don't have the demand to do 100 per day. I do still see where it can be hard. We talked before about an increase to 200 or more for Amazon because people are buying Paramount and many other providers through Amazon. If you have 3 other providers and count Amazon as well, that's 4, divide 100 by 4 that gives you 25 downloads per provider per day.All that can be done is watch the situation, and if you need 100, maybe try to spread it out at 10 to 25, then take a break and repeat.In the end, they can possibly lose money if they keep letting people download, but no matter what, it will continue, and to ban or block paying people from watching or using Prime for watching movies or shows really can cause a loss of money as well. Amazon, the last thing they need to worry about is losing money. And the added money to remove ads when Prime never had them since its inception is just that, BS.Another interesting point is that many claim most other programs record, although I know 2 that surely go out of their way to make it look as though they are downloading and not recording, but you wonder if they will cause this problem to trigger if they do either download or record.I am not even sure Amazon has a way to reply or contact them, but I feel that if I got the letter, I would want more details.Because we don't know if these people are purchasing trials and then canceling, or what else they may be doing, even maybe sharing their accounts.And people may need to stop VPN use, as that's one of the easiest things for websites to detect.Try it and check it out on reliable bank sites, etc. OR check Proxy & VPN Detection API | proxycheck.io

I think some common sense would come into play too, if the VPN use itself is not the trigger. If all you do is rip, and never actually watch shows on your Prime Video account, that would trigger me if it were my service. I try to watch shows on my Prime account quite a bit via my Apple TV and I have the full upgraded Prime subscription, as well as couple of addon channels. Sorry if that was 'captain obvious' comment, but I'm actually in midst of downloading some stuff for my new movie box in living room, some to replace ancient dvd isos of discs I purchased, as my movie box gets confused by mult-disc sets per season, so the ripped versions (e.g., Invader Zim, etc.) is way more practical. Keeping eye on this topic since top of mind. Kinda been going nuts on Amazon downloads as it was a way to get many of my Apple legit purchases as downloads for my new movie box which cannot use the Apple 'app' at all.

Warning email from Amazon

Wilson.Wang

Anyone get the Amazon email again when downloading videos from StreamFab 6247/6248 with a new Amazon account?

Wilson

theresay

I beginning to wonder if it really was Streamfab that triggered this, because someone at reddit said he never used Streamfab but he still got the email, and people getting the email from a region they don't use... It's beginning to look like they're shooting in blind

FreddieGellar

I beginning to wonder if it really was Streamfab that triggered this, because someone at reddit said he never used Streamfab but he still got the email, and people getting the email from a region they don't use... It's beginning to look like they're shooting in blind
theresay

That's very strange. I also received an email from a different region than mine. And a curious fact is that the email I received ends like this:

“How can I verify that this email is from Amazon? Emails from Amazon are always sent from @amazon.com.”

This is the first time I've received an email from Amazon that needs to state that it's official.

slottedpig

That's very strange. I also received an email from a different region than mine. And a curious fact is that the email I received ends like this:

“How can I verify that this email is from Amazon? Emails from Amazon are always sent from @amazon.com.”

This is the first time I've received an email from Amazon that needs to state that it's official.
FreddieGellar

Ok so then how do we explain the account bans then?

FreddieGellar

Ok so then how do we explain the account bans then?
slottedpig

After posting this, I saw people on Reddit saying that their accounts had been banned. Including people who had hardly downloaded anything.

slottedpig

After posting this, I saw people on Reddit saying that their accounts had been banned. Including people who had hardly downloaded anything.
FreddieGellar

Yeah once again it’s random and I’m not sure it’s still happening after the new updates

ingen

I agree it does seem random, and versions 6247/6248 may have fixed it. BUT activity is still being looked at going several weeks back, before these versions were out and emails are still being sent relating to older activity. This is not speculation. Nothing in the email states what or WHEN the triggered event(s) occurred. But I know that the older usage is an issue that may still result in a response.

I get that it makes sense to assume its just recent things, but who knows how they're investigating the flags and or if its back-logged.

I really hope the new versions did address it, but sadly older stuff may not be out of the clear just yet.

slottedpig

I agree it does seem random, and versions 6247/6248 may have fixed it. BUT activity is still being looked at going several weeks back, before these versions were out and emails are still being sent relating to older activity. This is not speculation. Nothing in the email states what or WHEN the triggered event(s) occurred. But I know that the older usage is an issue that may still result in a response.

I get that it makes sense to assume its just recent things, but who knows how they're investigating the flags and or if its back-logged.

I really hope the new versions did address it, but sadly older stuff may not be out of the clear just yet.
ingen

I agree with this assessment which is why many of us have made new accounts and use it only for this and are reporting on usage. There is no backlog in these accounts so if it is triggering then we will know based on this. For me so far all is well using only 6247/6248 both included with prime and purchased items

DQ1

Just a mention from my own thoughts. If Amazon is REALLY trying to put a stop to this vs just tamping it down, then posting workarounds or info how you got things to work here, is bad in my opinion because there is zero chance they are not reading this. So saying I got XYZ to work will result in them filling that hole in short order.

slottedpig

Just a mention from my own thoughts. If Amazon is REALLY trying to put a stop to this vs just tamping it down, then posting workarounds or info how you got things to work here, is bad in my opinion because there is zero chance they are not reading this. So saying I got XYZ to work will result in them filling that hole in short order.
DQ1

agreed

slottedpig

Any more hits on a clean account

corey75

Any more hits on a clean account
slottedpig

I've been downloading using all my available 100 daily credits on both my regular and burner accounts and I still have not received any emails. I'd also like to mention I've almost always used a VPN on the main account. The burner account I made a few weeks ago has not been using a VPN and still no warning emails from Amazon. Both of my accounts are US based.

Sub_Zero

its not only a streamfab issue......even vinetrimmer has the same problems and is warning its users atm

Germania

its not only a streamfab issue......even vinetrimmer has the same problems and is warning its users atm
Sub_Zero

This has to do with leaked/banned PlayReady CDM - see page 16+17 (info) ..
.. but SF use WideVine CDM for Amazon - see here

gokuairo2025

Do not change IP addresses frequently to access, especially new accounts. (It is best to use a unique residential IP. Do not change your IP address unless absolutely necessary. If you have to change your IP address, use the IP address of your region and do not change it to another country or region.)
Do not use a card that has been bound to a locked account. Do not purchase digital products right after registering a new account.
First, set a valid real address and phone number in your area. After two or three days, purchase some actual goods and confirm receipt.
The purpose of this is to prove that your account is used by the real and valid holder.
Then move on to buying digital products and subscriptions, but don’t buy or subscribe to too many at once.
It is important to note that it is best to bind a new credit card, preferably one issued by Amazon. And avoid using virtual cards.

After the above operations, you can at least avoid your account being locked in the short term.

Even so, as Amazon continues to strengthen its investigation of account security and legality. Any suspicious browsing data may be recorded for investigation at a later date.
Therefore, there is no 100% guarantee that a personal account will not be locked, even if it is legal to use.

My friend had an account for 10 years, but was completely locked out a few days ago because he changed his IP to browse and watch streaming.
And all you can do from now on is learn from your mistakes and be careful.

Germania

Do not change IP addresses frequently to access, especially new accounts.
gokuairo2025

I had already used two PV accounts outside Europe before this topic
was created, and I constantly switch between different countries
(sometimes 4 countries within an hour - of course not same ip/provider),
but I did not receive an email for either of the two accounts.

However, my main account in Germany has never been used outside Germany
and never changed the payment method and I received the warning.

0xFeedBeef

Do not change IP addresses frequently to access, especially new accounts. (It is best to use a unique residential IP. Do not change your IP address unless absolutely necessary. If you have to change your IP address, use the IP address of your region and do not change it to another country or region.)
Do not use a card that has been bound to a locked account. Do not purchase digital products right after registering a new account.
First, set a valid real address and phone number in your area. After two or three days, purchase some actual goods and confirm receipt.
The purpose of this is to prove that your account is used by the real and valid holder.
Then move on to buying digital products and subscriptions, but don’t buy or subscribe to too many at once.
It is important to note that it is best to bind a new credit card, preferably one issued by Amazon. And avoid using virtual cards.

After the above operations, you can at least avoid your account being locked in the short term.

Even so, as Amazon continues to strengthen its investigation of account security and legality. Any suspicious browsing data may be recorded for investigation at a later date.
Therefore, there is no 100% guarantee that a personal account will not be locked, even if it is legal to use.

My friend had an account for 10 years, but was completely locked out a few days ago because he changed his IP to browse and watch streaming.
And all you can do from now on is learn from your mistakes and be careful.
gokuairo2025

This is nonsense- most ISPs only offer static IP address as a premium option (yes, even for what are considered more-or-less "nailed down" connections such as cable or fibre) as those IP addresses are literally... a premium nowadays :rolleyes:

gokuairo2025

I had already used two PV accounts outside Europe before this topic
was created, and I constantly switch between different countries
(sometimes 4 countries within an hour - of course not same ip/provider),
but I did not receive an email for either of the two accounts.

However, my main account in Germany has never been used outside Germany
and never changed the payment method and I received the warning.
Germania

As just mentioned, any suspicious browsing data may be recorded for investigation at a later date. Not having it now doesn't mean not having it later.
What we need to pay attention to now is to try to avoid and stop this kind of action. It will not only bring no benefit to the account, but also bring more trouble to personal use.

gokuairo2025

This is nonsense- most ISPs only offer static IP address as a premium option (yes, even for what are considered more-or-less "nailed down" connections such as cable or fibre) as those IP addresses are literally... a premium nowadays :rolleyes:
0xFeedBeef

IP monitoring is actually happening now. Netflix is blocking it on the account login interface. When you use a suspicious or blacklisted proxy, you will not be able to log in, especially those shared accounts on the market, which will only pollute the IP used.
Amazon, on the other hand, systematically investigates account logins and their owners after login, including collecting evidence of suspicious activity. Even if you file a complaint, they'll know your past actions, making their approach more effective and thorough.
We have no idea how they do this, nor how we can completely avoid being blocked.

However, at present, the browser support in streamfab is still relatively safe.

BTW, just kidding: Amazon finally figured out how to deal with DRM cracking. XD....

0xFeedBeef

IP monitoring is actually happening now. Netflix is blocking it on the account login interface. When you use a suspicious or blacklisted proxy, you will not be able to log in, especially those shared accounts on the market, which will only pollute the IP used.
Amazon, on the other hand, systematically investigates account logins and their owners after login, including collecting evidence of suspicious activity. Even if you file a complaint, they'll know your past actions, making their approach more effective and thorough.
We have no idea how they do this, nor how we can completely avoid being blocked.

However, at present, the browser support in streamfab is still relatively safe.

BTW, just kidding: Amazon finally figured out how to deal with DRM cracking. XD....
gokuairo2025

these are just your wet fantasies, amazon doesn't have resources to parse, let alone monitor TENs, if not hundreds, of MILLIONS of daily logins; while healthy paranoia is good, delusional conspiracy theories don't help anyone.

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