DVD9 = improved movie quality?

Anakin2Vader

I just finished ripping Heat onto a DVD+R DL. However, it still didn't look original DVD quality. The original compression was about 36% or something like that using DVD5 while it was 0% using DVD9. If copying a DVD onto a dual layered DVD takes usually no compression, shouldn't quality be the same as the original source? And I do Movie Only.

IPopov50

When ripping, in a quality drop-down (bottom of the window), make sure it selected DVD9.

DarthCopier

[QUOTE=Anakin2Vader;35792]I just finished ripping Heat onto a DVD+R DL. However, it still didn't look original DVD quality. The original compression was about 36% or something like that using DVD5 while it was 0% using DVD9. If copying a DVD onto a dual layered DVD takes usually no compression, shouldn't quality be the same as the original source? And I do Movie Only.[/QUOTE]

What media did you use?

Using inexpensive media (read cheap) can cause problems if your playback unit doesn't 'like' that media brand... (what your burner wrote may not be entirely picked up by the playback unit, causing picture degradation on playback...)

DC

:cool:

Anakin2Vader

[QUOTE=IPopov50;35806]When ripping, in a quality drop-down (bottom of the window), make sure it selected DVD9.[/QUOTE]

Yes, DVD9 was selected.

Anakin2Vader

[QUOTE=DarthCopier;35815]What media did you use?

Using inexpensive media (read cheap) can cause problems if your playback unit doesn't 'like' that media brand... (what your burner wrote may not be entirely picked up by the playback unit, causing picture degradation on playback...)

DC

:cool:[/QUOTE]

I used Fuji DVD+R DL. I normally used Fuji DVD-R for my previous burns but I thought I'd try the dual layer discs.

Anakin2Vader

Is the main reason people go with dual layered DVDs because they don't have to shrink any ripped movies down?

DarthCopier

[QUOTE=Anakin2Vader;35845]I used Fuji DVD+R DL. I normally used Fuji DVD-R for my previous burns but I thought I'd try the dual layer discs.[/QUOTE]

Please download either Nero Disc Speed 5 or VSO Inspector (both freebies) and advise what they tell you is the Media I.D. for those Fuji discs...

Thanx

DC

:cool:

P.S. Or please post a burn log from your last burn... that'll have that info also...

DarthCopier

[QUOTE=Anakin2Vader;35848]Is the main reason people go with dual layered DVDs because they don't have to shrink any ripped movies down?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

DC

:cool:

Anakin2Vader

I did The Rock on dual layer this time. Here is the log:

I 09:20:27 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started!
I 09:20:27 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 09:20:27 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,164 KB - Available: 1,501,232 KB
I 09:20:27 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:20:27 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:20:27 Found 2 DVDÂ±RW/RAMs!
I 09:25:26 Operation Started!
I 09:25:26 Building Image Tree...
I 09:25:26 Checking Directory Depth...
I 09:25:26 Calculating Totals...
I 09:25:26 Preparing Image...
I 09:25:35 Using Layer Break LBA: 1572843 -> 1572848 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 17, Cell: 19, Vob/Cell ID: 2/1, Time: 01:09:20, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
I 09:25:35 Checking Path Length...
I 09:25:35 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
I 09:25:35 Size: 6,325,721,088 bytes
I 09:25:35 Sectors: 3,088,731
I 09:25:35 Image Size: 6,326,353,920 bytes
I 09:25:35 Image Sectors: 3,089,040
I 09:25:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:12
I 09:25:39 Operation Started!
I 09:25:39 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 09:25:39 Source File Sectors: 3,089,040 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:25:39 Source File Size: 6,326,353,920 bytes
I 09:25:39 Source File Volume Identifier: THE ROCK
I 09:25:39 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 09:25:39 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 09:25:39 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 09:25:39 Destination Device: [3:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N RL01 (E:) (ATA)
I 09:25:39 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x)
I 09:25:39 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 09:25:39 Write Mode: DVD
I 09:25:39 Write Type: DAO
I 09:25:39 Write Speed: MAX
I 09:25:39 Link Size: Auto
I 09:25:39 Test Mode: No
I 09:25:39 OPC: No
I 09:25:39 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 09:25:39 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 09:25:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,572,848
I 09:25:39 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary
I 09:26:11 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 09:26:13 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:26:16 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3089039)
I 09:26:16 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3089039)
I 09:26:16 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1572847)
I 09:35:56 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1572848 - 3089039)
I 09:45:18 Synchronising Cache...
I 09:45:19 Closing Track...
I 09:45:21 Finalising Disc...
I 09:46:39 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:46:39 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Vinson\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H42N_RL01_SUNDAY-MAY-09-2010_9-25_AM_RITEK-S04-66_MAX.ibg
I 09:46:39 Export Successfully Completed!
I 09:46:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:20:55
I 09:46:39 Average Write Rate: 5,409 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,592 KB/s (4.0x)

fab_admin

You are using an outdated version of Imgburn....
I 09:25:39 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!

Version 2510 has been out since March 16th.

soundping

If Imgburn is so great then why include VSO?

DarthCopier

[QUOTE=Anakin2Vader;35845]I used Fuji DVD+R DL. I normally used Fuji DVD-R for my previous burns but I thought I'd try the dual layer discs.[/QUOTE]

For max. picture and sound reproduction, you're always safe going with the best, which for DL DVD+R is Verbatim, MIS (Made In Singapore).

The Fuji's you are using were made by Ritek, and while fine for data writes (Word files, Excel sheets, etc.) they're not your best choice for video work.

For some time now, I've been using Taiyo Yuden for SL writes, and Verbatim for DL writes, have never generated a coaster, and have never experienced any quality (picture & sound) problems.

What you ultimately end up using is your business (best we can do is recommend), but it already sounds like you're not happy with Fuji...

DC

:cool:

Anakin2Vader

[QUOTE=DarthCopier;35947]For max. picture and sound reproduction, you're always safe going with the best, which for DL DVD+R is Verbatim, MIS (Made In Singapore).

The Fuji's you are using were made by Ritek, and while fine for data writes (Word files, Excel sheets, etc.) they're not your best choice for video work.

For some time now, I've been using Taiyo Yuden for SL writes, and Verbatim for DL writes, have never generated a coaster, and have never experienced any quality (picture & sound) problems.

What you ultimately end up using is your business (best we can do is recommend), but it already sounds like you're not happy with Fuji...

DC

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I've installed the newest version of Imgburn and reburned. Still the same issue. I haven't had many coasters with Fuji DVDs but I will consider the brands that you have mentioned.

CBR929

Anakin2Vader
You may also want to try slowing your burn speed down to 1/2 the rated speed of the media you are using to see if that makes a difference
CBR929

Anakin2Vader

When I go and watch a DVD-9 movie, what will the layer break look like? Does it pause or what?

DarthCopier

[QUOTE=Anakin2Vader;36306]When I go and watch a DVD-9 movie, what will the layer break look like? Does it pause or what?[/QUOTE]

If it does pause... pixel up... freeze... etc. then I think it's time to stop considering recommendations and start acting upon them... I use Verbatim DL DVDs and unless I knew where the layer break was, I'd never be able to detect it by just watching...

DC

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