: LG WH16NS60 (aka Ultra HD Blu-ray) is worser than WH16NS40 or BH16NS40

Little fruit fly

FYI, don't buy WH16NS60. I believe the WH16NS60 is just another WH16NS40 with stricter firmware.

The UHD disc shows up as BDROM with blank folder on 60 whereas 40 (mod or ROM Ver 1.02 or earlier) can see the whole disc of folders/files and content like AACS, BDMV and CERTIFICATE.

Little fruit fly

Stay tune, I am waiting for a few old PC part bought off that big auction site to arrive so I don't have to tear up my current systems to try this. My library room looked like a lab full of computer parts took out of my computers when I tried last time. I will try to cross flash the 60 and 40 to see if it works like

60 firmware on 40
40 firmware on 60

cholla

. My library room looked like a lab full of computer parts took out of my computers when I tried last time.
Little fruit fly

It wasn't that bad for me.
My Dell has quick remove optical drives.
So all I had to do was remove one side panel on the case.
Then unplug all the SATA ports & the cables to one optical drive.
Plug those into the optical drive being flashed & to the main primary SATA port.
I didn't install the quick mount bolts because I wasn't going to leave the WH16NS40 in the Dell.
It all looked pretty organized.
Then I used my Lenovo tower to create the bootable flash drive & do the HEX edit work.
So this definitely works better with two computers.

Little fruit fly

I took parts from 3 to 5 computers to try to get it to work and finally got the one with Win 7 1156 chipset to work, plus I backed up everything (not just data, the entire Win nvme or ssd drives) first, it took me a long time. I put everything back together. I know what work now, so I am going to picks a few parts from that auction place to make that setup dedicated to try the WH16NS60 and firmware mod in the future.

Side note, I think "Ultra HD Blu-ray Advisor" might install something evil malicious on my system. My advice is don't install that piece of junk.

Little fruit fly

Hilarious, WH60NS60 is indeed a WH60NS40 with the new "Ultra HD Blu-ray" printed front bezel.

I was able to cross flash a WH60NS40 drivewith WH60NS60 ROM Ver 1.00 firmware.

1)First I only replace the stock WH60NS60's 1.00 firmware 0x001E8000 to 0x001E8FFF section with the dumped 0x001E8000 to 0x001E8FFF from WH60NS40 which is unique for that WH60NS40 drive. I don't replace the 0x001E9000 to the end (this is the burning strategy section), so effectively it is Wh60NS60 ROM Ver 1.00 on WH60NS40.
2)Then I replace 0x001E9000 to the end with the dumped 0x001E9000 section from the original WH60NS40 ROM Ver 1.03, the net effect is WH60NS60 ROM Ver 1.00 with WH60NS40 ROM Ver 1.03 burning strategy. the original WH60NS40 1.03 has better burning BD/DVD strategy for some low quality discs. WH60NS60 1.00 burning strategy is faster than (about 5 minutes faster for burning 100GB BD-RE triple layer discs took 3 hours to burn) WH60NS40 1.03's but create more coasters for low quality discs, my standalone Bluray player cannot play those low qulity discs burned by WH60NS60 1.00 or WH60NS40 1.02 or earlier.

By combining the 40's burning strategy with 60's 1.00, this makes the WH60NS40 drive a 60 (show up as WH60NS40 ROM 1.00 on IMGBURN) yet with 40's better burning strategy.

Save yourself $55 to $60 bucks, the price difference between the WH60NS40 ($50 to $60) and WH60NS60 ($115). Both use the Mediatek chip MT1959.

Little fruit fly

You can buy 2 WH60NS40s for the price of 1 WH60NS60. LOL! :cool:;):D

Little fruit fly

Most of the WH60NS40s out there have ROM Ver 1.03 and WH060NS60s are 1.01. Buy the 40 and replace with 60's 1.00, user cholla here has the link to 60 1.00.

cholla

Good to know the information.
I still have the original 1.03 dump from my WH60NS40 .
I could turn the WH60NS40 into a WH60NS60 v 1.00 & then replace the 0x001E9000 to the end with the WH60NS40 v 1.03

That is unless I like the information I.m trying to get on crossflashing a WH60NS60 to an Asus BW-16D1HT.
Even then it seems like the second part of the WH60NS40 hex edit might be better to use.

Little fruit fly

Asus 16D1HT ROM 3.03 has even better burning strategy than WH60NS40 v1.03. Asus 3.03 strategy burns those low quality discs at 10X while LG v1.03 slowly does it at 4X speed, I am talking those crappy DVD discs I got from Circuit City years ago. Again, my standalone Bluray player can play these discs burned by Asus 3.03 and LG v1.03 strategy but cannot play/read those burned by WH60NS60 1.00 or WH60NS40 1.02 or earlier.

I did try put WH60NS60 v 1.00 on Asus BW-16D1HT drive with Asus 3.03's burning strategy. Looks like Asus is the best drive among all BD drives in my opinion, at least Asus invests in fine tuning the burning strategy.

Asus 16D1HT uses the same Mediatek MT 1959 chip. Love Mediatek! :):D:cool:. I wonder what is inside Pioneer BDR-211UBK??:p;)

Little fruit fly

DOSFLASH can not command Pioneer drive correctly, getting "Flash Type: MTK Vendor Intro failed!" Although it detects the drive as Pioneer BD-RW BDR-211M 1.50 correctly.

cholla

Asus 16D1HT ROM 3.03 has even better burning strategy than WH60NS40 v1.03. Asus 3.03 strategy burns those low quality discs at 10X while LG v1.03 slowly does it at 4X speed, I am talking those crappy DVD discs I got from Circuit City years ago. Again, my standalone Bluray player can play these discs burned by Asus 3.03 and LG v1.03 strategy but cannot play/read those burned by WH60NS60 1.00 or WH60NS40 1.02 or earlier.
Little fruit fly

It is my understanding that both Asus 16D1HT ROM 3.03 & WH60NS40 v1.03 are considered UHD "unfriendly" .
That the 3.02(or lower) & 1.02(or lower) respectively are the firmwares to use for a UHD friendly drive.

I've used some low quality DVD writable blanks but never Circuit City.
I have standalone DVD players & a standalone blu ray player Both work with almost all DVDs I burn.
Usually if they don't the computer doesn't either.
I rarely use my LG drives for burning.
My usual DVD burner is an IDE drive.
I believe that is part of the reason I have a good success rate.

I even still have a VCR in my entertainment system just in case.
Rarely used but it still worked the last time I used it.

Little fruit fly

Yeah, the idea is to combine the best of both worlds: UHD "friendly" and best burning strategy.

You can cross flash Asus BW-16D1HT, LG WH60NS40 and LGWH60NS60 because they use the same Mediatek MT 1959 chip.

The best flash is to use LGWH60NS40 ROM v1.02, or ASUS 16D1HT v3.02 or LGWH60NS60 v1.00 as the base for UHD "friendly" depends on which drive you have, then replace the 0x001E9000 to the end (the section for the burning strategy) with ASUS 16D1HT v3.03's 0x001E9000 to the end (ASUS has the best burning strategy :cool: I found out after test burned about 20 of 25GB, 50GB, and 100GB BD and about 50 of DVD discs). Of course and importantly, replace with the dumped 0x001E8000 to 0x001E84FF (unique to each individual drive).

I buy crappy discs for testing purpose, I don't use them for my backups. ;)

Little fruit fly

Micro Center has OEM version LG WH60NS40 v1.03 for sale at $60 (normally 70) and the lowest I could find for Asus BW-16D1HT is $95 in the retail box with software and screws. Asus is shooting itself for not having the OEM 16D1HT version like LG WH60NS40 at a lower price.

cholla

Testing to see if I can post.
If I can I will edit .

XX14

I got three emails from Dvdfab about this new down grade firmware tool any ETA on when or if it will be released?

october262

I got three emails from Dvdfab about this new down grade firmware tool any ETA on when or if it will be released?
XX14

more news about the downgrade tool - https://www.myce.com/news/dvdfab-announces-tool-to-easily-downgrade-firmware-of-uhd-friendly-drives-85384/

XX14

Thanks already read the post..No Idea when But one would think pretty soon after emailing their entire customer base last weekend I got three cause I have three AIOs.

Little fruit fly

I would assume Prime members get to use the downgrade firmware tool for free. :cool:

Little fruit fly

People, don't buy Pioneer burners, be it the BDR-211UBK or BDR-S11J-BK for UHD. Not only both have rip lock like the previous gen BDR-209, pathetic S11J doesn't even read UHD disc, at least DVDFab doesn't read with it. I hope the upcoming DVDFab utility would able to mod the firmware for Pioneer burners, or I will return them.

pacman

LG and Asus are currently the drives that the downgrade tool is targeting. Pioneer might be a bit harder to circumvent because of the AACS chip so it might take the developers a bit longer to work out how to downgrade ( or even if they can downgrade)