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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    I've tried full disc multiple times. The problem is now Fab connecting to IMGburn. j&b says Feng is aware of it, so I'm gonna wait on an update instead of encoding the same movie over and over, only to have it fail @ the burning stage. I have everything set up properly, I've posted logs also.

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  • qbs.cn
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    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    Damn, I thought it was working. I watched SALT burned to a 25gb for about a half hour and then skipped to the parts I knew had the Cinavia error3 msg and nothing. Then out of nowhere I got the msg toward the end of the movie

    Maybe I'm missing something? Are there any settings I'm supposed to check in Fab? I got the Cinavia msg when I loaded SALT into the program and then the copy protected disc msg when before I was about to encode, so I figured it works by default.

    Do I have to do that "trick" on the PS3 where you set to optical and multi-channel audio?

    *EDIT* I did use clone mode to rip to HDD then mounted the .iso and encoded using full disc option to BDMV/Certificated folders, not .iso. Then burned using IMGburn. I'm not sure if that matters??
    Hi vWvSTATICvWv
    I think it's some errors with your operations.
    It is wrong that you used Clone to HDD,it will destroy the cinavia protection in DIsc,so the ISO BD have been no cinavia. And it will play faild on PS3(The output file should have cinavia protection,if it be destroyed,the movie will no sound and have a warning after playing 20Min-21MIN.)
    You can rip BD form Disc.
    Good luck
    Joe

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    Thanks for the replies j&b. It's good to know I'm not buggin
    The last log is the same as the one posted prior to reinstall. It says, "failed to report binding nonce" at very end. The fab process log is typical and at the end says, "23:12:15: ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - 23:12:22: Task_2 failed! Error=1"
    I guess we wait for an update...

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  • j&b
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    Originally posted by DiabloZoe View Post
    So are you saying the protected disc only plays on a PS3?? You have to back up 2 discs one for the PS3 and one to play on all other players?? I under stand what the OP is about!! What I am saying is the disc will not play on the sammy or the PS3!! When I back up a disc I expect it to play on all players!! Disc's with cinavia protection will not play on certain players including PS3!! Well I am telling you that a BDRE backed up with cinavia protection will not play on my sammy!!
    Ppl usually have just one BD player so the choice is easy to make.
    Indeed, if you have a PS3 and another player and you want to backup for both, you may have to make two discs. And I'll tell why is that: the protected backup is using a standard that is not implemented by all players. PS3 wanted to be the best player, and it was for quite a while, therefore they implemented *everything* about Blu-ray playback. For instance you can contact Samsung and ask them to implement "AACS protected BDMV on recordable" which is the techy name for the protected backup. If/when they add support, the backup will work on the Samsung as well.

    Alternatively, you can wait for BDAV support to be added to DvdFab output choices, which is a broader supported format (ie. the BDAV protected support will work on both PS3 and other players). And before you ask why this was not the first choice to make, BDAV format is poorer in options, you don't get to have the original disc menu and other features on the disc, just main menu.

    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    Yea only this one since I just reinstalled
    The only thing I can think of is that I have my autoplay options in control panel set to "Ask me every time" whenever a disc is inserted into my drive. I honestly don't remember that ever being an issue before though and if it were, I wouldn't see IMGBurn booting up from Fab and attempt to start burning, correct? I don't know anymore, I'm at a loss....
    It's not autoplay and it's not IMGBurn. The clue was in the last dvdfab_internal.log you posted (btw: pls post the new one, after reinstalling DvdFab). It's one of the operations that are part of the "magic" that fails with your drive (that's why I suggested updating the firmware). Funny thing is that I also have that Pioneer 205.
    Fengtao is aware of the issue and it is investigated, so please help with the dvdfab_internal.log. Thank you. Other than that, there is no point to retry until a fix for this is provided. I'll try to update this thread when it happens
    Last edited by j&b; 01-24-2011, 09:05 AM.

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    Originally posted by Gummigutta View Post
    If you start ImgBurn and check in the Help menu for old logs, is the one that never went off, to be found there? Perhaps that gives you a clue to why it never started the burn process.
    Yea only this one since I just reinstalled
    The only thing I can think of is that I have my autoplay options in control panel set to "Ask me every time" whenever a disc is inserted into my drive. I honestly don't remember that ever being an issue before though and if it were, I wouldn't see IMGBurn booting up from Fab and attempt to start burning, correct? I don't know anymore, I'm at a loss....
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    Last edited by vWvSTATICvWv; 01-24-2011, 04:39 AM.

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  • Gummigutta
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    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    I uninstalled both Fab & IMGBurn, used CCleaner to wipe(make sure nothing was left over) and installed both programs on my SSD this time. Failed at IMGBurn yet again
    I have the latest of both programs and followed the tutorial to setup both to work with each other.
    On the plus side, running Fab on my SSD finished RE3D in 2hrs & 15min

    Here's the log from Fab this time
    If you start ImgBurn and check in the Help menu for old logs, is the one that never went off, to be found there? Perhaps that gives you a clue to why it never started the burn process.

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    I uninstalled both Fab & IMGBurn, used CCleaner to wipe(make sure nothing was left over) and installed both programs on my SSD this time. Failed at IMGBurn yet again
    I have the latest of both programs and followed the tutorial to setup both to work with each other.
    On the plus side, running Fab on my SSD finished RE3D in 2hrs & 15min

    Here's the log from Fab this time
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  • DiabloZoe
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    Originally posted by j&b View Post
    This thread is about Cinavia protected backup. Samsung players are not affected by Cinavia, so you should make regular backup, not protected one.

    Protected backup is meant to be used on PS3, on firmwares that have Cinavia detector.



    You can do a clone iso, but leaving protection on.
    Then mount with DvdFab and do protected backup.
    As stated in changelog, RE3D is not supported in 3D mode when creating protected backup (only 2D).
    Protected backup cannot be created outside DvdFab, it's a special mode of writing not available anywhere else (afaik).
    Regarding a way to not burn the protected backup right away after it is prepared, you'll have to ask Fengtao for that. But there is not much use for such a delayed writing... protected backup is the disc itself that was written in the special way, so when you want to make one, you also write it.
    Please post logs with the error code/message.
    So are you saying the protected disc only plays on a PS3?? You have to back up 2 discs one for the PS3 and one to play on all other players?? I under stand what the OP is about!! What I am saying is the disc will not play on the sammy or the PS3!! When I back up a disc I expect it to play on all players!! Disc's with cinavia protection will not play on certain players including PS3!! Well I am telling you that a BDRE backed up with cinavia protection will not play on my sammy!!

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    My fw is upto date but I'll try re-installing both Fab & ImgBurn.

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  • j&b
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    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    Hope this is what you were looking for.....
    *EDIT*
    I don't think I can do the clone option. Once I mount and Fab reads, the copy protected option is grayed out.
    Try updating the firmware on your Pioneer drive and re-download DvdFab 8072. Fengtao made a new version for a similar problem reported on another thread. Also the log is more detailed on that.

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    Hope this is what you were looking for.....
    *EDIT*
    I don't think I can do the clone option. Once I mount and Fab reads, the copy protected option is grayed out.
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    Last edited by vWvSTATICvWv; 01-23-2011, 10:53 PM.

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  • j&b
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    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    I don't know where the log went...I burned something else after the fail. I went into logs and all that showed was my last successful burn. Where else can I check?
    The reason I asked about burning @ a later time is because if I can't figure out why Fab & ImgBurn aren't communicating, I can just close Fab and burn the .iso or folders it created in ImgBurn myself. I've never had an issue burning anything with ImgBurn til now.
    In Settings->General->Output Folder you will find the path to Log directory. It is dvdfab_internal.log that is the most interesting.
    ImgBurn needs to be 2550 (or newer).
    You can also try to make a protected backup with VSO engine for a change.

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    I don't know where the log went...I burned something else after the fail. I went into logs and all that showed was my last successful burn. Where else can I check?
    The reason I asked about burning @ a later time is because if I can't figure out why Fab & ImgBurn aren't communicating, I can just close Fab and burn the .iso or folders it created in ImgBurn myself. I've never had an issue burning anything with ImgBurn til now.
    Last edited by vWvSTATICvWv; 01-23-2011, 10:15 PM.

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  • j&b
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    Originally posted by DiabloZoe View Post
    Ok so I did a main movie copy of the other guys! TDK BDRE did not play in the samsung 3600-4600! I out back into Fab and it played on the preview screen! I used the VSO burning engine! I am doing a re burn and I am gonna use the ImgBurn engine and see if that works! every time I have put the disc into the sammy I get to the same spot! I went and purchased a new BR Burner to rule out that option!! Will post results as time is getting shorter!
    This thread is about Cinavia protected backup. Samsung players are not affected by Cinavia, so you should make regular backup, not protected one.

    Protected backup is meant to be used on PS3, on firmwares that have Cinavia detector.

    Originally posted by vWvSTATICvWv View Post
    Ok so I can do a clone of RE3D w/cinavia, then mount the .iso in Fab and do full disc copy from there while still disabling cinavia? Is there a way to not burn right away after the encode in finished? Can I burn the .iso or folders Fab creates after the encode on my own, separately?
    You can do a clone iso, but leaving protection on.
    Then mount with DvdFab and do protected backup.
    As stated in changelog, RE3D is not supported in 3D mode when creating protected backup (only 2D).
    Protected backup cannot be created outside DvdFab, it's a special mode of writing not available anywhere else (afaik).
    Regarding a way to not burn the protected backup right away after it is prepared, you'll have to ask Fengtao for that. But there is not much use for such a delayed writing... protected backup is the disc itself that was written in the special way, so when you want to make one, you also write it.
    Please post logs with the error code/message.
    Last edited by j&b; 01-23-2011, 10:08 PM.

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  • vWvSTATICvWv
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    Originally posted by j&b View Post
    If you do BD25 on a movie that is bigger than that, DvdFab will compress it. Either in Full Disc or Main Movie mode. So compression is supported for Cinavia protected discs.



    Please post the logs and give us some details about the failure. (error code/message etc). Thanks
    (Btw: if you want not to read the disc each time, you can make an iso with ImgBurn or with DvdFab in CloneMode but leaving the protections on, in the Bluray/Protection settings page; use that iso to make protected backup; again, this is just so you don't stress the bd drive too much).
    Ok so I can do a clone of RE3D w/cinavia, then mount the .iso in Fab and do full disc copy from there while still disabling cinavia? Is there a way to not burn right away after the encode is finished? Can I burn the .iso or folders Fab creates after the encode on my own, separately?
    Last edited by vWvSTATICvWv; 01-23-2011, 10:02 PM.

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