Which is correct pacakge for DVD-A backup

[GregiBoy]

I do not think so!!!!

[leeroy]

Can a CD Audio be transferred to a DVD Audio using the above method?.

[Sherbona]

While I realize it's not crystal clear in any documentation, might that screen shot you posted also possibly refer to the audio track ONLY from a DVD VIDEO disc, as opposed to a DVD-A audio disc?

The wording in the GUI is pretty clear IMO, "Copy DVD-Audio (AUDIO_TS folder)". DVD-Audio refers to the format, not audio from a normal DVD. This is reinforced by the fact that it also mentions "AUDIO_TS". AUDIO_TS 100% means DVD-Audio format - audio content on a normal DVD (or the normal DVD-V portion of a DVD-A disc that is included for compatability with normal DVD players) is actually in the VIDEO_TS folder of a DVD.

I remember back when the DVD-Audio functionality was added to DVDFab (there were announcements etc...), and the screenshot shows one of the GUI changes that was made to accomodate the added functionality.

I also have a difficult time imagining why someone would want to copy the audio-only from a VIDEO disc, so it's not that big a jump to figure that DVD-A discs might also be inferred from that screen-shot...

DVD-A ripping is than just inferred from that screenshot - AUDIO_TS is only for DVD-A format discs, nothing else.

I actually am one who extracts audio-only from regular DVDs I prefer surround-sound music to stereo, so since there are a lot more concert/music-video DVDs out there...

It's not very complicated to do (rip the normal DVD, extract/demux the audio with splitting by chapter to get the individual songs in AC3 or DTS format). The end result is surround sound music tracks that can be imported into a music library and played back via suitable software player from a HTPC or similar, i.e., feeding the 'main' living room surround system.

[W&B]

The only time I would want the audio only from a video disc would be a concert DVD, then converting to MP3 with DVD to Mobile generic option. (I'm pretty sure you meant from movies though and I agree, I can't really see why anyone would want to).

[DarthCopier]

Yes you are right DVDFab does have the option to copy DVD-Audio(Audio_TS folder) according the the screenshot I attached anyways. Now I do not have any DVD Audio to try but the option is there if you select it.

While I realize it's not crystal clear in any documentation, might that screen shot you posted also possibly refer to the audio track ONLY from a DVD VIDEO disc, as opposed to a DVD-A audio disc?

I know all the protections on the DVD-A discs aren't necessarily covered by Fab (including the much-vaunted but still little-used Verance Watermark protection)...

I also have a difficult time imagining why someone would want to copy the audio-only from a VIDEO disc, so it's not that big a jump to figure that DVD-A discs might also be inferred from that screen-shot...

Possibly its creator might want to jump in here and clarify this point, unless one of the mods or the admin. already knows...

DC

[Sherbona]

This is great I'm gong to copy this to a txt file for personal use in the future, Thankyou!!

You're welcome DVDFab is indeed 'fab' with it's ability to back up DVD-A (I usually use either Full disc as shown in AGJ's screenshot, or Clone as outlined in my earlier post) - this ability is important since many DVD-A releases are out of print and would be very difficult to replace.

[AGJ]

... and also DVD-Audio discs.

Yes you are right DVDFab does have the option to copy DVD-Audio(Audio_TS folder) according the the screenshot I attached anyways. Now I do not have any DVD Audio to try but the option is there if you select it.

[W&B]

This is great I'm gong to copy this to a txt file for personal use in the future, Thankyou!!

[Sherbona]

... and also DVD-Audio discs.

[GregiBoy]

Thanks for the info on how to achieve this!!!!

The basic statement still remains though.

"Fab is designed and developed to remove copy protection from VIDEO disks"

[Sherbona]

Good news, it appears DVD Audio format is still supported in 7.0.3.0. (phew!!!!)

I installed 7.0.3.0 (international version, css) on my backup machine that already had 6.2.1.8 installed (mine is paid version including DVDtoDVD, DVDtoMobile, Blu-raytoBlu-Ray) and was able to rip ELP Brain Salad Surgery DVD Audio disc to the hard drive just fine.

robocat, I'm not sure if it makes any difference between paid and free version, mine is paid. Here is what I recommend trying

1. Install 7.0.3.0 (international version, css)
2. Reboot
3. Start DVDFab
- When running DVDFab be sure to first turn off xxx if you have it, otherwise you will have problems.
4. Insert your DVD Audio disc, set the "Source" (box on top) if needed.
5. On the left under "DVDtoDVD" click on Clone
6. Uncheck "Copy DVD-Video Data Only"
7. Uncheck "Copy Original IFO Files"
8. Set the "Target" (on top) to desired location
9. Click "Start"
10 Burn the resulting .ISO file with ImgBurn to get a DVD Audio disc.

Note that ripping DVD Audio disc will remove the CPPM protection (kind of DVD Audio's equivalent to DVD's CSS), but it will not remove any watermarking protection. Some DVD Audio players will observe watermark protection and stop the playback on discs made from rips after ~ 30 seconds, while other players ignore any watermarks. I believe if you google around a bit you can find a list of players that ignore it.

Also keep in mind if your disc is getting cracks that there may be data problem with the resulting rip. For testing you can always try extracting to indivdual hi-res tracks on your hard drive (i.e., multichannel flac) using free tool called DVD Audio Explorer and then play back the file in something like Media Player classic or VLC player.

For anyone reading this and are not sure what a DVD Audio disc is, here's a pretty good link:

[Sherbona]

So sad - I'm going to loose my investment into this not cheap ELP gem just because of tiny cracks, which have appeared around the hole in the center of disk.

I understood that the reply is a final "NO" and there is no way with DVDFab to create any copy of this ELP DVD-Audio content.

Interestingly, I have found from Google that this DVD-Audio title has been copied already by someone.
Any suggestion, how?

Thanks!

Hi robocat

I'm hoping that maybe there was a misunderstanding with what a DVD Audio disc is in the answer that you received. I have indeed ripped/cloned the Emerson, Lake & Palmer DVD Audio disc without any issue (besides it possibly reporting incorrect layer break info in the .ini file) using DVDFab via 6.2.1.8.

However I have not yet tested this with the latest DVDFab version, but I will soon, hopefully today. Given what was said in the thread I am only going to install the newest version on my backup machine and test it there so that I don't chance loosing any DVD Audio functionality compared to my existing 6.2.1.8 installation. I will report back as soon as I can.

[Sherbona]

DVD fab is not designed nor developed to copy audio discs.

Ripping DVD Audio discs works just fine in 6.2.18 (for instance, when ripping a DVD Audio disc the "Copy DVD-Audio (AUDIO_TS folder)" in the "Copying" section of "DVDtoDVD > Full Disc" is enabled, checking it tells DVD Fab to rip the AUDIO_TS of (DVD Audio format content).

Are you saying that v7.0.3.0 removes support for ripping DVD Audio discs (discs with content in the AUDIO_TS folder)? (I'm in the middle of some rips and can't upgrade and test for a bit)

I ask this because ripping DVD Audio format discs is very important for me (and many others who are into hi-res surround sound music) and as a lifetime purchase I would consider this a HUGE loss of functionality.

[GregiBoy]

Yep... TPB

[robocat]

So sad - I'm going to loose my investment into this not cheap ELP gem just because of tiny cracks, which have appeared around the hole in the center of disk.

I understood that the reply is a final "NO" and there is no way with DVDFab to create any copy of this ELP DVD-Audio content.

Interestingly, I have found from Google that this DVD-Audio title has been copied already by someone.
Any suggestion, how?

Thanks!