newer versions of DVDFab do not correct errors

[AGJ]

Post your burn logs as they might tell us something

[Xymox]

I got bit distracted with work...

I got passkey installed. Scanned the original DVD with VSO Inspector and it reports no errors at all..

I will go do a new pass with DVDFab to catch the log files,,,

[Xymox]

( sigh ) and now it just works.. With 8.X...

Maybe installing passkey did something ?

I donno....

I will keep track of this issue... Next time I get one of these issues I will grab the log..

[Xymox]

Uninstalling Passkey has brought back the problem.. Interesting.. With Passkey installed I have no issue. Without passkey 8.X has the issue..

Its now repeatable again.

Im not sure about what logs you want...

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DVDFab 8.0.2.9 (2010/10/26 23:31:04)

0m 00.96s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 03.01s: detected dvd
0m 03.04s: drive I
0m 03.04s: dvd type 1
0m 03.04s: volume label BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
0m 03.57s: got copyright 1 f2
0m 04.31s: got udf/iso
0m 05.37s: got discinfo
0m 05.37s: pathplayer enabled
0m 20.46s: got dvdinfo
0m 59.53s: detected dvd
0m 59.53s: drive G
0m 59.53s: dvd type 0
0m 59.53s: volume label

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Info for drive [I:\] (DVDFab 8.0.2.9)
Drive region: 1

Disc media: DVD
Disc type: DVD-Video
Disc region: 1, 3, 4
Volume name: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
Video standard: NTSC
Layer 0 size: 2045792 sectors (3995 MBytes)
Layer 1 size: 2045792 sectors (3995 MBytes)

CSS (Content Scramble System) protection is removed!
RC (Region Code) protection is removed!
RCE (Region Code Enhancement) protection is removed!
APS (Analog Protection System) protection is not found.
UOPs (User Operation Prohibitions) protection is removed!

Invalid PTTs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCIs protection is not found.
Invalid PGCs protection is not found.
Invalid TMAPs protection is not found.
Invalid CELLs protection is removed!
Invalid VOBUs protection is not found.
Fake vts 5 is removed!
Fake vts 6 is removed!
2 fake vts protections are removed!
Bad sector protection is not found!
Structure protection (ARccOS, RipGuard, etc.) is removed!

PathPlayer is enabled!
Unplayable cell is not found.

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Image Burn log
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I 23:43:55 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 23:43:55 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,616 KB - Available: 1,622,884 KB
I 23:43:55 Initialising SPTI...
I 23:43:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 23:43:55 -> Drive 1 - Info: ATAPI iHAP422 8 VL17 (G (ATA)
I 23:43:56 -> Drive 2 - Info: ATAPI iHAS324 A BL14 (H (ATA)
I 23:43:56 -> Drive 3 - Info: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-810SA 1.01 (I (ATA)
I 23:43:56 Found 3 DVD±RW/RAMs!
I 23:43:56 Operation Started!
I 23:43:56 Building Image Tree...
I 23:43:56 Checking Directory Depth...
I 23:43:56 Calculating Totals...
I 23:43:56 Preparing Image...
I 23:43:56 Checking Path Length...
I 23:43:56 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 23:43:56 Content Type: DVD Video
I 23:43:56 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 23:43:56 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 23:43:56 Volume Label: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
I 23:43:56 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
I 23:43:56 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 23:43:56 TV System: NTSC
I 23:43:56 Size: 4,486,516,736 bytes
I 23:43:56 Sectors: 2,190,682
I 23:43:56 Image Size: 4,487,151,616 bytes
I 23:43:56 Image Sectors: 2,190,992
I 23:43:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 23:43:56 Operation Started!
I 23:43:56 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 23:43:56 Source File Sectors: 2,190,992 (MODE1/2048)
I 23:43:56 Source File Size: 4,487,151,616 bytes
I 23:43:56 Source File Volume Identifier: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
I 23:43:56 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 23:43:56 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 23:43:56 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 23:43:56 Destination Device: [0:1:0] ATAPI iHAP422 8 VL17 (G (ATA)
I 23:43:56 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x, 20x)
I 23:43:56 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 23:43:56 Write Mode: DVD
I 23:43:56 Write Type: DAO
I 23:43:56 Write Speed: MAX
I 23:43:56 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 23:43:56 Link Size: Auto
I 23:43:56 Lock Volume: Yes
I 23:43:56 Test Mode: No
I 23:43:56 OPC: No
I 23:43:56 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 23:43:56 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 27,700 KB/s (20x)
I 23:43:56 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 23:43:56 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: Yes, SmartBurn: Yes
I 23:43:57 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 23:43:58 Writing LeadIn...
I 23:44:30 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2190991)
I 23:44:30 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2190991)
I 23:48:27 Synchronising Cache...
I 23:48:30 Closing Track...
I 23:48:32 Finalising Disc...
I 23:48:45 Exporting Graph Data...
I 23:48:45 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Chris2\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAP422_8_VL17_TUESDAY-OCTOBER-26-2010_11-43_PM_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg
I 23:48:45 Export Successfully Completed!
I 23:48:45 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:43
I 23:48:45 Average Write Rate: 18,567 KB/s (13.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 26,980 KB/s (19.5x)
I 23:48:45 Close Request Acknowledged
I 23:48:45 Closing Down...
I 23:48:46 Shutting down SPTI...
I 23:48:46 ImgBurn closed!

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So I am open to suggestion as to what to do to help isolate the issue...

There are a bunch of copy protections on this disc. Maybe its some form of copy protection not being properly removed by 8.X but is being removed by Passkey when I use 8.X ?

I donno.... Its a weird one..

[AGJ]

I think it because you are burning at max speed and not 12x or 8x speed for those Verbatim media you have. Click the link below and watch the youtube video to see how to set up ImgBurn and DVDFab to work together

http://forum.dvdfab.com/showpost.php?p=55&postcount=2

If that does not work then Disable Pathplayer as Black Hawk Down is a 2003 release and does not really require Pathplayer to be enabled but do not know if you have one of the newer release either as they have newer copy protection on them

[Xymox]

I did more testing..

I used different drives for burning and reading..I did this at 8X on all the drives.

These all resulted in the same skips while playing at the same places during playback.

I then reinstalled Passkey and used VSO Inspector to check the copied discs. Amazingly they all passed..

So I gues this means that the discs were burned correctly and the data on the discs reads without any problems...

So the only thing that could be wrong was that the data itself was the issue and was causing the skips. The burned disc is perfect and there are no errors on the disk. Its the data..

So DVDFab must be creating this data incorrectly with the skips.

This seems to make sense as i can use 7.X and the discs come out fine. It also appears I can install Passkey and use 8.X and everything comes out OK.

I still think that something is wrong with 8.X and this becomes a issue when using dirty source DVD's.

More info...

Im using Main Movie..

My computer is a Abit mother board with a P4 with hyperthearding clocking at 3.4 GHZ. 2GB of Kingston High Performance ram, Adaptec RAID SATA controller running 2 Raptor drives in RAID 0 for performance. I have 2 SATA based DVD burners a Liteon 422 and a Plextor 810A, I also have a PATA Liteon 324.

I also have a second computer with a very different setup and it has the same issues when burning the discs.

I am getting even more convinced that this is a software issue with the current versions of DVDFab. As I said before maybe its as simple as the read settings for skip sectors and retries is not being applied properly ?

I would love to find that I did something wrong or its some setting but I just don't know what else to play with..

[Xymox]

VSO Inspection of the copied disc that has bad skips and then eventually will stop playing and hang..

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2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info File test complete
2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info Average read speed: 1.81x
2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info Maximum read speed: 3.52x
2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info Minimum read speed: 1.43x
2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info Good: 9, Problem: 0, Error: 0
2010-10-27 07:05:34 Info 9 files scanned
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info File Test started
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info Surface scan complete
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info Average read speed: 9.38x
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info Maximum read speed: 15.80x
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info Minimum read speed: 0.03x
2010-10-27 06:33:58 Info Good: 100.00%, Problem: 0.00%, Error: 0.00%
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Scanning DVD from sector 0 to 2190991
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Total sector count: 2190991
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Surface Scan started
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Volume Label: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Sessions: 1
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Tracks: 1
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Content Type: DVD-Video
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Layers: 1
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Capacity: 4.18 GB (2190992 Sectors)
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Media ID: MCC-004-00
2010-10-27 06:27:42 Info Media Type: DVD
2010-10-27 06:27:30 ---- ******************** Log session start 27-Oct 06:27:30.578 PID 3008********************

[Xymox]

I could post the ISO for download if anyone wants to burn it and see whats wrong with the data...

[Mike89]

This is a really interesting thread. I hope Fengtao comes here to take a look at this. He should be alerted about this to see what the deal is.

[AGJ]

I could post the ISO for download

No that fine as it would be illigal since it against the Copyright Laws

[Xymox]

Oh yes, oops. Thanx I could have gotten in trouble..

Is there some program I could use to explore what is wrong with the data on the disc ? Maybe there is a clue to what is going wrong ?

I guess I could play with retries and skip sectors and see if that changes anything. Just to see if those settings work.

Really weird that a VSO Inspection of the original disc with Passkey active shows no problems/errors but if you use Nero 8.X without Passkey the data files generated by DVDFab of the Main Movie selection contain skips/hangs.

Very weird..