Cropping / Resizing issues

[jamespoo]

you need to change its resizing like how megui dose its resizing of videos

you app fails because of this

and you need to add better deinterlacing filters yadif ivtc ect

[VideoNoob]

I know what your saying when I play it back on a bigger screen (the screen compensates and adds the top and bottom bars), but if I open the video file by itself with out resizing on media player classic it opens it up to the video dimensions = NO BLACK BORDERS when cropped properly.

I tried it with handbrake and it cropped it properly too....

Like I stated it wants to leave black bars at the top and bottom WITH the size of 256 which squeezes the video. So far other programs are doing it properly and one added the bars, but set the size like 720x???, but the video was at proper resolution and there were no options at setting it at 640 or 624 x ???.

I have used autogk for years, it crops it fine and I downloaded handbrake to try it and it crops it fine as well with NO black bars on top or bottom. BOTH of these programs DO NOT have the option to put rectangle bars on them, they just detect it and then you can manully set it and preview it to see if its right and BOTH of them do it properly.

DVDfab gives you a great preview frame and allows you to set the green bars of what you want. It shouldn't matter if i wanted a box that is the size of a head or a rectangle that is only the center of the screen, it should crop to those settings and give me JUST that video in that little box. It doesn't do it for me and that is why I was asking for help.

@signals, yes ripped straight from Video_TS/original vob files.

I was just hoping for someone who has used many programs before to say... hmmm WOW it doesn't crop it right (because it doesn't from what I can see) and then I could goto the feature requests and request some more options that may help some people.

Also for the fact that DVDfab is a really great all in one application and I have been a registered user since version 4. With the new FILE to MOBILE option I got excited and thought I could just use ONE program, but instead I will have to stick with using other FREE programs that do it correctly for now.

I really appreciate everyones help in this matter and at least attempting to assist me with this issue. I do have some requests though... so off to the request section..

[Organdude]

Hey VideoNoob,

If I'm getting you on this, it sounds like you want to resize the overall dimensions of the video according to the image contained in the video. (Note that these are two items that are very often different in dimension and aspect ratio!)

I have found that DVDFab is by far the easiest-to-use converter with the best resizing and cropping options out there, maybe you need video-editing software!

Here's one more suggestion: try defining a 2.35:1 proportioned screen resolution as your target video size, then use the crop function to cut the video down to the image boundaries.

ONE THING ABOUT THOSE BARS...
No matter what you do, unless you have a "super-widescreen" 2.35:1 monitor, you will always see letterboxing (black bars) with images of that proportion. Getting that long skinny rectanglar image to fit on even a regular 16:9 "widescreen" monitor will produce letterboxing.

Have a look at this Wikipedia article for more info on letterboxing:

Cheers, and hey if it aint broken, keep foolin' around with it!

Organdude

[signals]

This is a strange clip. There are small black bars encoded (on the sides)with the video in the VOB. DVDFab should still be able to clip these out but it can't for some reason, even with Keep Aspect unchecked. The VOB looks like it has already been re-encoded with something. Noob, I ask again if this was ripped straight from the DVD and if so with what if not DVDFab.

[GregiBoy]

Fab will maintain the correct aspect ratio of the clip, that is why you cannot do what you want.

You can either letterbox it (Bars top and bottom) or Pan/Scan (crop left and right, stretch to full height).

[VideoNoob]

All I want is just the video, not the bars on TOP or BOTTOM or SIDES.. and wanted it converted to xvid.

If someone can do that I will be happy. I used another converter and it converts it fine, but did detect the height to be 256 like DVDFAB, so 256 is fine.

but with DVDFAB it wants to add the black bars on top and bottom NO MATTER WHAT I do and the output window looks full, but the end result is black bars..

that is what I am trying to do...

[GregiBoy]

I've had a look at it and I am also confused by what he is trying to do.

[signals]

The video in the clip looks like 2.35:1 in a 4:3 letterbox. Not the best way to author content.

[Organdude]

Hey VideoNoob,

For my own use, I have found that DVDFab is great at handling resizing and cropping issues, and also one of the fastest converters out there. However I normally define the overall screen size/resolution, and thereby also the aspect ratio, before doing anything else. Only then can you decide on how to handle the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. (Did you mention what size the coversion was supposed to be?)

The numbers don't add up...
Throughout your thread, you've listed a number of different conversion attempts and resizes. You should note that not all of the dimensions are proportional to the original source file, and this may be what's throwing you off!

You wrote: "Main Source (4:3) 720x480 DVD vob". This is not 100% right-on. 4:3 aspect ratio is 1.33 (First number divided by the seconded, i.e. 4 divided by 3 = 1.333333333.) If the Video size is indeed 720x480, its aspect ratio would then be 1.5 (not 1.33 / 4:3).

What's the objective of the video crop?
If you are looking to fill the screen from top-to-bottem, side-to-side, without any black bars, you're going to have to crop that "super-widescren" image way down to the proportaional size of your playback monitor. (I did the same with the super anamorphic presentation used in the film The Matrix, cutting it down to 4:3 format at 320x240 screen resolution.) Again, try defining the screen size first, then do your cropping!

You may also want to note that the "super-wide-but-really-short" image perspective is no doubt intentional and part of the artistic presentation of that clip. Hey, if they wanted the image to fit a regular old 4:3 TV set, they would have done it!

Hope this may help,

Organdude

[signals]

Is the file a VOB that was just decrypted and then lifted out of a VIDEO_TS folder or was it run through VOB Passthrough?

[VideoNoob]

tried again for S&G (shits and giggles) and still have had no success...

[VideoNoob]

Thanks signals I appreciate the help...

I hope your having more success than me. Like I said it may have to bee feature request in another update....

[signals]

I have tried that option.. if possible.. can you try to see if you can get the same results.

hXXp://hotfile.com/dl/23177055/3dcfafe/Test.vob.html

width 640, autogk finds the height as 272= 640 *272

Profile generic.xvid.mp3 * stereo * 128kbps

anyone with success please let me know..

@VideoNoob I will try it and report back to you.
@packfan I'm not sure your problem is exactly the same, please start a new thread titled "black bars" or something like that in the DVD to Mobile forum.

[packfan]

I am also having this problem of the auto crop leaving black bars at the top and bottom of the picture. I'm not as tech savy as videonoob so if anyone has a simple solution or steps that would be appreciated.

[VideoNoob]

I have tried that option.. if possible.. can you try to see if you can get the same results.

hXXp://hotfile.com/dl/23177055/3dcfafe/Test.vob.html

width 640, autogk finds the height as 272= 640 *272

Profile generic.xvid.mp3 * stereo * 128kbps

anyone with success please let me know..