DVD Ripper Lossless copy from DVD to USB drive

[era]

Sorry if this has been answered...I've searched and searched.

I travel a lot and want to take my USB 1 T portable hard drive with a few of my DVD movies on it that are not compressed. Plug it into the hotel TV. I can't figure out how to do this using the latest DVD Fab 9.1.2.5.

I tried various settings with various formats in the ripper. I tried MKV passthrough and it came out fuzzy and the audio was out of sync.

The best I've been able to do is set a WMV format to high quality, double-pass, and 1028x780. That seems to compress about 40% of the original, but retain most of the sharpness on a moderately large TV. But what I'm really after is a lossless copy of the DVD movie--I don't care if it comes out 25G large. I've got a Terabyte of space. I just want a portable version of the DVD-quality picture. Is this possible?

[Nik_Simpson]

Definitely something weird going then

MKV passthrough should be just taking the MPEG video and the audio stream and putting them in an MKV container, so there shouldn't be any difference in quality between the original DVD and the MKV file.

Can you do an MKV Pasthrough rip and post the logfiles?

[era]

Yes

I would think that passthrough meant a direct copy, but it was done pretty fast. Anyway, I'll do it again later tonight and post the log...

[era]

Odd Output

Below is the log of my wmv passthrough. What seems odd to me is this line in the log:

Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356

Given that a 720p display is 1280 x 720, and 1080p is even higher, no wonder the passthrough results, when blown up to fill the LCD screen on the TV, look blurry.

Isn't there a setting in the DVDFab ripper that will build a sharp, lossless video file?

_____________ LOG ________________

DVDFab 9.1.2.5 (2014/02/07 07:03:13)

0m 00.10s: App info: 2014-1-22
0m 00.10s: App info: 9.1.2.5 9125 Official
0m 00.10s: App info: client type 2.
0m 00.12s: Fabplay load: preload successful.
0m 00.17s: Fabplay load: Load successful.
0m 00.17s: Init process: Transfer settings successful.
0m 00.17s: info: fabcheck logpath= C:/Users/Richard/Documents/DVDFab/Log/
0m 00.17s: fab_check_gpu is running ...
0m 00.25s: fab_check_gpu run successful
0m 00.25s: info: recommand= 0, Shrink support= 0, enable= 0, cuda_cap= 0 , cpu_count= 8
0m 00.25s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate-7
0m 00.25s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate setting-0, 0
0m 00.25s: GPU check: CUDA cap-0
0m 00.25s: GPU check: Support coreavc decode-0
0m 00.25s: GPU check: Lighting shrink status-0, 0
0m 00.25s: GPU check: Graphics info: AMD Radeon HD 7500 Series : :
0m 00.25s: Init process: Load config successful.
0m 00.25s: Init process: Windows os type is 14.
0m 00.25s: Init process: command line in is
0m 00.31s: Reg check: Parse string: ( 2:8260762964 )( 11:8260762964 )( 20:1421878013 )( 1:0 )( 50:0 )( OV:9125 )( BV:9123 )( S:918f532e223ec795b7abcf05f0b64796 )
0m 00.31s: Reg check: Option check status-Local
0m 00.31s: Reg check: ( HD Decrypter:1:0 )-( DVD to DVD (Gold):0:0 )-( DVD to DVD:1:1 )-( DVD to Mobile:1:1 )-( Blu-ray to Blu-ray:1:1 )-( Blu-ray to Mobile:1:0 )-( File to Mobile:0:0 )-( Blu-ray to DVD:1:0 )-( File to DVD:1:0 )-( File to Blu-ray:1:0 )-( File Mover:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to 3D:1:0 )-( 2D to 3D:1:0 )-( Blu-ray Decrypt:1:0 )-( DVD Decrypt:1:0 )-
0m 00.31s: App info: language type ENU.
0m 00.31s: Reg check: Start get sys number.
0m 00.31s: Reg check: Serial number is: 1a-3e-8e-5a-0a-b5:08-3e-8e-5a-0a-b6:18-03-73-3a-f4-e5:08-3e-8e-5a-0a-b5
0m 00.31s: Reg check: Connect type is: 0
0m 00.41s: Init process: Init GPU settings successful.
0m 00.53s: Init preview: Begin init preview play engine.
0m 00.62s: Init preview: Init internal engine successful.
0m 00.86s: Reg check: Times of connecting error is: 0
0m 00.86s: Reg check: Parse string: ( S:4facc4d340148af3946981490faea5f0
0m 00.86s: Reg check: Option check status-NewWork
0m 01.17s: Burn engine: start init.
0m 01.34s: Burn engine: engine type-0.
0m 01.34s: Burn engine: writer count 2.
0m 01.34s: Burn engine: 0- F:\ [HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH82N A101 (Scsi)].
0m 01.34s: Burn engine: 1- G:\ [PIONEER BD-RW BDR-207M 1.21 (Scsi)].
0m 01.34s: Burn engine: end init.
0m 01.65s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile
0m 02.11s: Init process: Init setting page successful.
0m 02.37s: UI manager: switch to Ripper mode.
0m 02.98s: Init process: init main ui successful.
0m 03.05s: Init process: show main ui successful.
0m 03.05s: DriveX msg: Init driveX F with I/O mode: 0
0m 03.05s: DriveX msg: Init driveX G with I/O mode: 0
0m 03.06s: opening drive F
0m 03.06s: opened i/o
0m 03.06s: got media type 4
0m 06.02s: got max lba 4130071
0m 06.03s: got disc type 10
0m 06.07s: type DVD-VIDEO
0m 06.07s: volume label WOLLARD
0m 06.07s: DriveX msg: add media in driveX F.
0m 06.07s: DriveX msg: send open media msg to thread for driveX F.
0m 06.14s: opening drive G
0m 06.19s: opened i/o
0m 06.20s: Source manager: add source id 0.
0m 06.21s: Open blu-ray disc expired time: 215811
0m 06.21s: internal path F:/VIDEO_TS/
0m 06.25s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 06.50s: got udf/iso
0m 09.27s: got discinfo
0m 09.27s: pathplayer enabled
0m 12.81s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_19 cell_1 sector_39 count_1
0m 12.91s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_19 cell_2 sector_3971 count_6
0m 20.88s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_20 cell_1 sector_39139 count_6
0m 21.27s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_20 cell_2 sector_74980 count_6
0m 21.42s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_27 cell_1 sector_114841 count_6
0m 21.51s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_28 cell_1 sector_114701 count_8
0m 26.26s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_29 cell_1 sector_110028 count_7
0m 29.21s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_27 cell_2 sector_115503 count_6
0m 33.79s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_26 cell_1 sector_109587 count_7
0m 33.96s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_26 cell_2 sector_109932 count_7
0m 34.53s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_21 cell_1 sector_115659 count_11
0m 35.13s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_21 cell_2 sector_116027 count_11
0m 35.93s: button: vts_3 menu_0 pgc_1 cell_1 sector_526 count_1
0m 36.47s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_32 cell_1 sector_110099 count_2
0m 36.53s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_33 cell_1 sector_110168 count_3
0m 36.61s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_34 cell_1 sector_114766 count_2
0m 38.70s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_22 cell_1 sector_116139 count_11
0m 38.79s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_23 cell_1 sector_116974 count_11
0m 38.88s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_24 cell_1 sector_117531 count_11
0m 39.03s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_23 cell_2 sector_117410 count_11
0m 39.23s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_22 cell_2 sector_116814 count_11
0m 39.41s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_24 cell_2 sector_117899 count_11
0m 47.23s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_19 cell_3 sector_39139 count_6
0m 47.59s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_19 cell_4 sector_74980 count_6
1m 06.44s: got dvdinfo
1m 06.80s: opened dvd
1m 06.80s: Source manager: open successful.
1m 07.01s: Work manager: create Ripper work 0 with source 0 and uiinfo 0( title 0 ).
1m 13.52s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
1m 13.52s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
1m 13.52s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
1m 13.52s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
1m 13.52s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
1m 13.52s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
1m 13.52s: Source Audio Channels : 6
1m 13.52s: Source Audio Volume : 100
1m 13.52s: Work Profile : AVI
1m 40.19s: Work manager: create Ripper work 1 with source 0 and uiinfo 0( title 0 ).
1m 40.19s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
1m 40.19s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
1m 40.19s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
1m 40.19s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
1m 40.19s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
1m 40.19s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
1m 40.19s: Source Audio Channels : 6
1m 40.19s: Source Audio Volume : 100
1m 40.19s: Work Profile : AVI.Default
2m 10.59s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
2m 10.59s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
2m 10.59s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
2m 10.59s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
2m 10.59s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
2m 10.59s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
2m 10.59s: Source Audio Channels : 6
2m 10.59s: Source Audio Volume : 100
2m 10.60s: Work Profile : AVI
2m 23.46s: Work manager: create Ripper work 2 with source 0 and uiinfo 0( title 0 ).
2m 23.46s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
2m 23.46s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
2m 23.46s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
2m 23.46s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
2m 23.46s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
2m 23.46s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
2m 23.47s: Source Audio Channels : 6
2m 23.47s: Source Audio Volume : 100
2m 23.47s: Work Profile : WMV
2m 40.77s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
2m 40.77s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
2m 40.78s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
2m 40.78s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
2m 40.78s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
2m 40.78s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
2m 40.78s: Source Audio Channels : 6
2m 40.78s: Source Audio Volume : 100
2m 40.78s: Work Profile : AVI.Default
2m 47.56s: Work manager: create Ripper work 3 with source 0 and uiinfo 0( title 0 ).
2m 47.56s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
2m 47.56s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 404
2m 47.56s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 480
2m 47.56s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
2m 47.56s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
2m 47.56s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
2m 47.56s: Source Audio Channels : 6
2m 47.56s: Source Audio Volume : 100
2m 47.56s: Work Profile : MKV Passthrough
3m 51.11s: Work manager: create Ripper work 4 with source 0 and uiinfo 0( title 0 ).
3m 51.11s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
3m 51.11s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 300
3m 51.11s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 356
3m 51.11s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
3m 51.11s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
3m 51.11s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
3m 51.11s: Source Audio Channels : 6
3m 51.11s: Source Audio Volume : 100
3m 51.11s: Work Profile : MP4
4m 09.45s: ========WorkAttr::SetSource=======
4m 09.45s: Source Video Size Original : 720 x 404
4m 09.45s: Source Video Size Display : 854 x 480
4m 09.45s: Source Video FPS : 24000 / 1001
4m 09.45s: Source Video Bitrate : 1200
4m 09.45s: Source Audio Bitrate : 448000
4m 09.45s: Source Audio Channels : 6
4m 09.45s: Source Audio Volume : 100
4m 09.45s: Work Profile : MKV Passthrough
4m 17.16s: UILog:OnMsgToolbar_Start
4m 17.16s: UILog:Msg Start : ready start
4m 17.16s: UILog:Msg Start : start test run work
4m 17.16s: UILog:right button to null, work falg = -1
4m 17.17s: UILog:Msg Start : run work
4m 17.17s: UILog:Run current Work.
4m 17.17s: UILog:Begin work ripper.
4m 17.17s: UILog:Begin work copy or converter.
4m 17.17s: Start check DVD Ripper register status.
4m 17.17s: End check DVD Ripper register status: Enable
4m 17.17s: UILog:start running at thread.
4m 17.17s: UILog:return flag at start running at thread ok.
4m 17.18s: OPList at DVD Ripper : (480.1),(128.1),(32.32)
4m 17.18s: DVD ripper check watermark flag: 0
4m 17.18s: ------------------ convert work begin(1/1) ------------------
4m 17.18s: info: create config(dvdpassthrough)
4m 17.18s: info: use profile(MKV Passthrough)
4m 17.18s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->17)
4m 17.18s: info: 3D working_mode(disable), 3D format(sbs_lef_right)
4m 20.20s: info: stream input@ Video(480)[codec(mpeg2video) size(720*480) fps(24000/1001) interlace(0) opcode(copy)]
4m 20.20s: info: stream output Video(480)[codec(mpeg2video) size(720*480) fps(24000/1001) interlace(0)]
4m 20.21s: info: stream input@ Audio(128)[codec(ac3) channels(6) sample(48000) bitrate(448000) bitdepth(16) opcode(copy)]
4m 20.21s: info: stream output Audio(128)[codec(ac3) channels(6) sample(48000) bitrate(448000) bitdepth(16)]
4m 20.21s: info: stream input@ SubPicture(32)[codec(dvdsub) language(English) opcode(remux)]
4m 20.21s: info: stream output SubPicture(32)[codec(dvdsub) language(English)]
4m 20.21s: info: SubMode(Remux) -- Display Only forced Subtitle(true)
4m 20.21s: UILog:MsgWork:WorkStatus_Start
11m 43.72s: info: audio_decode finish job
11m 43.98s: ------------------ convert work finished ------------------
11m 44.99s: UILog:MsgWork:current work finish : 3
11m 44.99s: UILog:Run Work to end.
14m 57.94s: Exit process: stop running.
14m 57.94s: Exit process: preview pfn_releaseplayer end
14m 57.95s: Exit process: preview pfn_deinit end
14m 57.95s: Exit process: preview FreeLibrary end

[GregiBoy]

DVD's are usually only composed @ 720 x XXX, Over that you are relying on them being Anamorphic, yada, yada. (Have a read about anamorphic encoding & square pixels, Google is your friend)

Your source in this case is only 720 x 300.

Up-scaling is not a good idea.

[era]

It seemed so simple at first

I guess I'm asking for something impossible, but why?

1. You play a DVD and it looks sharp on the LCD screen.
2. You play a "lossless" copy of the dvd from a hard drive file and it looks fuzzy.

Where is the problem? Why can't I save an image of the DVD main movie to a hard drive file, then play it back on an LCD TV?

[Nik_Simpson]

I guess I'm asking for something impossible, but why?

1. You play a DVD and it looks sharp on the LCD screen.
2. You play a "lossless" copy of the dvd from a hard drive file and it looks fuzzy.

Where is the problem? Why can't I save an image of the DVD main movie to a hard drive file, then play it back on an LCD TV?

Could be that the DVD player is has hardware upscaling that is doing a better job than whatever you're using to playback the ripped copy. What are you using to playback the ripped copy?

[signals]

I think Nik is correct, I have a Pioneer player that makes DVDs look very good but for converted content played from a jump drive in the USB jack, only movies converted from Blu-ray appear sharp.

[era]

I've Tried

To play back the ripped copy, I plug it into the USB port on the side of my Samsung TV. But I've also viewed it on the computer with the VLC player.

For DVD's I've tried various playback devices, including a Panasonic blu-ray player and the computer itself. Even on 55" screens DVD's look sharp. I use an Oppo DVD player in the main room, and that makes them look even better than usual.

Oddly, I get a sharper (nearly DVD sharp) picture when I rip to a WMV format to using the high quality setting, double-pass, and a 1028x780 output resolution. This compressed file is sharper than the "lossless" passthrough rip.

[era]

Finally

I did finally find a way to put a DVD on a hard drive. It actually works because the Samsung TV is capable of playing a set of iso files, and even switching to the next one in the list. You click the Copy tab, then at the very bottom of the DVDfab window where it says Save To: you select the iso option. When watching the TV, you select your hard drive as the source, then select the Video_TS folder where all the VTS files are located. Select the first VTS folder and you see your movie exactly as it would be seen via DVD. I would never have imagined that the TV was smart enough to play iso.