CSI Season 1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems?

[Norm@Home]

CSI Season1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems

So I tried the standard Mp4 profile with codec h264 Encoding Method Fast Encoding 1-pass, Video Quality - High Quality, Deinterlacing off and the end result is the same: video and audio are fast and mosaic

Interestingly enough I then tried the standard Mp4 profile with codec MP4, Encoding Method Fast Encoding 1-pass, Video Quality - High Quality, Deinterlacing off and the end result is better: video and audio are fast but the "mosaic" problem is significantly less but still noticeable. One other thing I noticed with this configuration that scrolling in MPC did not work smoothly like the index was broken in some way.

While I had been doing some other full disc copy's I had re-enabled GPU codecs and lightning encoding which were enabled for the previous two runs. I tried disabling GPU codecs and used the same settings as previously in my last test and still the same video and audio fast and less of a "mosaic" problem but still noticeable. I tried viewing the result in VLC instead of MPC and video and audio are still the same and the scrolling problem still exists.

- Norm

[Norm@Home]

CSI Season1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems

I think the biggest problem here is two pass. Too much trouble for the microscopic difference it makes. One pass at high quality is great!

I've tried so many different settings with the Mp4 profile it's hard to tell but I can say that some of these things are what I experienced: (all are things trying to ripp CSI S1 D1 the blu-ray edition)

There's a problem with the profile Mp4 / h264, Encoding Method High Quality encoding 2-Pass, Video Quality - High Quality, Deinterlacing On - Ripping starts and FPS is 30-40 (with all GPU codecs disabled) and within several minutes FPS drops to zero and ripping stalls, although Fab is still responding and you can cancel the job in progress without issue and return to the queue.

In the previous configuration, when I switch "High Quality encoding 2-Pass" to "Fast Encoding (1-Pass)" ripping doesn't stall but the quality of the end result simply doesn't look good i.e. lots of blocky artifacts almost like what you would see if you forced a lores video to full screen and it appears almost fuzzy.

After that I tried switching to the MP4 codec and with either two pass or one pass I had the same issue with what Wlison reproduced and called "video and audio are fast and mosaic".

At GlennS's suggestion I tried the MP4 passthrough profile with two pass and one pass although I can't be sure if I tried both the h264 codec and the mp4 codec but the same settings I tried with the other Mp4 profile got me pretty much the same results.

One thing that I haven't tried that I'm now wondering about is if the problem is setting Deinterlacing to On since I haven't tried any of these with that setting off. So let me try that and post back.

- Norm

[90312]

I think the biggest problem here is two pass. Too much trouble for the microscopic difference it makes. One pass at high quality is great!

[CBR929]

Hi Norm@Home
I may be wrong but, you will mostly find interlaced content on series discs.
Glad you have a work around.
CBR929

[Norm@Home]

CSI Season1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems

Here's what I believe it should look like if there's no interlaced content on the disk.Perhaps the option only shows up if the disk has interlaced content.Try a regular movie I bet your screenshot will look like mine.

Hi Glenn:

These episodes of CSI must be interlaced because the field is not disabled, I took a quick look at a regular movie and I see that in that case the deinterlacing option is disabled.

As I mentioned, the test with the MP4 Passthrough profile finished and as far as I can tell I've got the same results i.e. what Wilson calls "video and audio are fast and mosaic". I guess this is a problem ripping interlaced VC1 to mp4 so hopefully it'll get fixed in the next release cycle. In the mean time I'll use Fab 8 on titles like this.

Thanks!

- Norm

[glenns]

Here's what I believe it should look like if there's no interlaced content on the disk.Perhaps the option only shows up if the disk has interlaced content.Try a regular movie I bet your screenshot will look like mine.

[Norm@Home]

CSI Seanon1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems

Norm:Try the mp4 passthrough profile this will pass the audio and video as it is on the disk without reducing size.You should be not able to select the deinterlacing box at all mine shows it as grayed out without a check box at all.Is it possible the disk contains some interlaced titles maybe extra's on the disk making the option in Fab show? Glad version 8 worked.

The 3d mp4 has a interlacing check box so I hope your not using the wrong profile.

Hi Glenn:

I was using the regular MP4 profile not the 3D profile (see the screen shot), so I'll try your suggestion of using the MP4 Passthrough profile and see what happens. Also the "DeInterlacing" checkbox in my case is not grayed out (see second screen shot) so I'm not sure why yours is and mine isn't?

The disc information shows there should be four episodes on this disc, Fab identifies Title / playlists 0,1,2,3,13,25,26,27,28,29 as possible episodes as they all have "EN DTS-HD/Master 7.1" audio and the right runtime. But I've manually watched the playlists for titles 0, 1, 2 and 3 and those are the four episodes and the only titles that I'm attempting to ripp.

I'll post back and let you know the results of using the MP4 Passthrough profile. I notice that Wilson Wang from Fab has posted that he has been able to reproduce the problem that I've been experiencing here and is passing it along to the developers for resolution.

As always, CBR929, GlennS and Wilson thanks for your help and suggestions!

- Norm

[Wilson.Wang]

I also got the issue that the video and audio are fast and mosaic when converting the VC1 interlace source to mp4. And report it to our developer.
Please wait some time to fix it.
Sorry for this to trouble you!

Thanks!

Wilson

[glenns]

Norm:Try the mp4 passthrough profile this will pass the audio and video as it is on the disk without reducing size.You should be not able to select the deinterlacing box at all mine shows it as grayed out without a check box at all.Is it possible the disk contains some interlaced titles maybe extra's on the disk making the option in Fab show? Glad version 8 worked.

The 3d mp4 has a interlacing check box so I hope your not using the wrong profile.

[Norm@Home]

Hi Norm@Home
Do you have the option in advanced settings under MP4 to check the box that says Deinterlacing???
If so give it a try.
CBR929

That box is checked, apparently by default. Should it not be?

- Norm

[Norm@Home]

Have you tried setting Fab to same as source???
CBR929

I tested setting Resolution in Advanced Settings to 1918x1080 and I'm having the exact same problem i.e. lots of artifacts throughout the episode and the video seems to play as a speed faster than normal with the audio / sub-titles way out of sync with the video and the farther along it gos that more out of sync it gets.

- Norm

[CBR929]

Hi Norm@Home
Do you have the option in advanced settings under MP4 to check the box that says Deinterlacing???
If so give it a try.
CBR929

[glenns]

Also from his log:
69m 03.77s: info: stream input@ Video(4113)[codec(vc1) size(1920*1080) fps(30000/1001) interlace(1) opcode(compress)]
Why interlace?

[Norm@Home]

CSI Seanon1, Disc 1 Ripping Assorted Problems

Hi Norm@Home
There is something strange in your logs
Source Video Size Original : 1920 x 1081 < this last number should be divisible by 2

This one is: Source Video Size Display : 1918 x 1080

Fab is setting it to size(1920*1080)

Have you tried setting Fab to same as source???
CBR929

Hi CBR:

That does seem odd and something that wasn't obvious to me when I was looking at the log myself. On the Source Video Size / Source Video Display, I gather that Fab determines that when it analyses the source and I just tried playing the 00000.mpls playlist file in MPC and in properties of the video it says 1920X1080 so both of those are being detected / calculated wrong by Fab.

Since I wasn't aware of this size discrepancy issue I hadn't tried to make a change to the resolution field in advanced settings so I'll give that a try and see what the results are and get back to you.

Also GlenS had suggested giving Fab 8 a try which I did and I'm watching the episode I tested with now and it seems fine; no artifact problems and the audio and video seem to be in sync so whatever is going on is a problem in Fab 9.1.2.8.

- Norm

[CBR929]

Hi Norm@Home
There is something strange in your logs
Source Video Size Original : 1920 x 1081 < this last number should be divisible by 2

This one is: Source Video Size Display : 1918 x 1080

Fab is setting it to size(1920*1080)

Have you tried setting Fab to same as source???
CBR929