M2TS Sound issues with Samsung TVs

jbinkley60

I recently ran across an issue where I found that all of my Blu-Ray rips since last July, which are ripped to the M2TS container format with the M2TS Passthrough profile, won't play properly on Samsung TVs. The sound is either garbled or the Samsung TVs won't recognize the audio track. They will play fine on other devices such as WD Live, Kodi, Netgear and similar devices.

After quite a bit of testing by loading older versions of software I found that the problem started with v9.2.0.5 of DVDfab. Any Blu-Ray with DTS sound that I rip to M2TS with 9.2.0.2 and earlier works fine. Anything later and the audio when played on a Samsung TV is garbled and barely playable. I've tried this on multiple F series Samsung TVs and can reproduce it consistently.

Some change in Blu-Ray ripping to the M2TS container in v9.2.0.5 isn't liked by the Samsung codecs. I realize this is a very unique and odd problem.

jbinkley60

Wilson and team,

Any chance of looking into this ? It looks like this fix in 9.2.0.5 may be the cause.

Fix: A problem that the converted m2ts.passthrough videos from Blu-rays do not display the languages of the audio tracks when playing back in a video player.

Without fixing this I can't use my Samsung TVs to play files ripped with DVDFab since 9.2.0.5. I'll need to go out and get new devices like WD Live or similar. I'd really prefer not to.

Thanks in advance.

jbinkley60

I looked at this further and it appears that this feature/fix, to insert the language for the audio, is what is causing problems for the Samsung TVs and it appears to be different than the m2ts file right off the Blu-Ray:

Here's a Media info output for a current Blu-Ray DVD release RIP:

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : D:\videos\Video\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_D4\BAND_OF_BROTHERS_DISC_4.Title1.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 13.2 GiB
Duration : 59mn 0s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 32.0 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 58mn 59s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 58mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Language : English

And here's the same m2ts file straight off the Blu-Ray. You can see DVDFab inserting the word English above, which the Samsung's don't understand. I'd settle for an option to turn this off/on or just turn it off to match the Blu-Ray native format:

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : D:\videos\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 13.7 GiB
Duration : 59mn 0s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 33.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video #1
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 58mn 59s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy

Video #2
ID : 6912 (0x1B00)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L2
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 58mn 59s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy

Video #3
ID : 6913 (0x1B01)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L2
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 58mn 59s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 58mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 58mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 81.0 MiB (1%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 58mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 81.0 MiB (1%)

Audio #4
ID : 6656 (0x1A00)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : Express
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 162
Duration : 58mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 40.5 MiB (0%)

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #3
ID : 4610 (0x1202)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #4
ID : 4611 (0x1203)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #5
ID : 4612 (0x1204)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #6
ID : 4613 (0x1205)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Wilson.Wang

Hi,

Did you mean that the m2ts file can be played back fine on your Samsung TV if the file does not have the LANG code?

Wilson

jbinkley60

Wilson,

Correct. If the audio track doesn't have the language label my Samsung TVs play them fine. I've got two different Samsung TVs which do this.

If I rip a Blu-Ray with 9.2.0.2 or earlier using m2ts passthrough or if I extract the m2ts file natively off the ISO file the Samsung TVs will play them fine. If I use 9.2.0.5 or later, which inserts the language label, the sound is garbled and can't be heard on the Samsung TVs. I have 2 different models of Samsung. I wonder if anyone else has a Samsung and is seeing this ?