Latest StreamFab & Netflix question

[Chameleon]

In StreamFab it should multiple 1080p, 720p, 480 and a couplemore resolutions to choose from. You could be right but I was thinking cause of how fast it finished it was legit downloaded.

Fast is 2 minutes, come on, we all know its re-encoded, look at the audio, if it was a direct download it would download what the original was in 3 or 4 minutes tops.

[deadsearch]

I would like to know that as well.

Me too!

[AllNight]

This is probably a dumb question but I'm gonna ask anyway, How can you tell if StreamFab is actually downloading the movie in 1080p or it's upscaling the video? The screenshot below shows a movie that was available in 480p or 1080p.

StreamFAB doesn't upscale. The workaround is re-encoding. So, what you should be asking, is how can you know if StreamFab is downloading and decrypting the stream, vs. re-encoding the stream using frame captures?

I would like to know that as well.

[giQz]

Oh please don't give me that, they are in China where no one can touch them. They just cant do it.

I was trying to be nice, trying not to show my .

[Chameleon]

Posted by Kattanders
It's downright outrageous that I'm not allowed to copy or download legally purchased content (CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays, or even streaming platform content) to store in a private media library (Plex) for my own personal use.

There must 100 programs that do this. AnyDVDHD or CloneDVD2

[Chameleon]

As you pointed, we are in a dilemma just by using StreamFab, a solution to a gray area need, when it was working.

Oh please don't give me that, they are in China where no one can touch them. They just cant do it.

[giQz]

It's downright outrageous that I'm not allowed to copy or download legally purchased content (CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays, or even streaming platform content) to store in a private media library (Plex) for my own personal use.

As you pointed, we are in a dilemma just by using StreamFab, a solution to a gray area need, when it was working.

[Kattanders]

So is my theory wrong about using that Android key extraction tool to possibly fix SF and Netflix?

This is a vey interesting subject, but somehow I don't think it is that easy. Clever people are working on something to make it as hard as possible to get broken, while other clever people are trying to break it. DRM is not just a key, it is a digital rights management (such as Widevine, FairPlay, PlayReady) to also control access in regard to view, copy some content and access privileges to the copyright protected material. Then you have the CDM (Content Decryption Module) which takes the part of decrypting the content based on what DRM allows. DRM as well as CDM is protected code which is not free accessable and not easy to temper with. Even with the key you still need to "convince" CDM that the request is legit (bypass the CDM's verification process).

I am not a hacker but in this scene I wish I was. It's downright outrageous that I'm not allowed to copy or download legally purchased content (CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays, or even streaming platform content) to store in a private media library (Plex) for my own personal use. This is because in all cases, copy protection is circumvented, which is illegal. StreamFab offers ways to circumvent this copy protection, but using it is... well, I don't need to elaborate. So what's the point of complaining to SF? Should it not be directed to the Copyright holders and Content rights owners? and especially to those who make the laws?

[Baker]

I'm clearly not very smart when it comes to all of this CDM/DRM stuff, but I have to admit that I've learned a ton from many of the knowledgeable forum members here so thank you all for your patience and for the many explanations, etc.

Since I'm interested in learning/understanding things even more, I took a look at the site that Zammo linked to in post #8 above and noticed this: https://cdm-project.com/Android-Tools/KeyDive

If I'm understanding things correctly, which may not be the case, couldn't the developer use that Android tool in conjunction with the SF Android interface for Netflix to discover the DRM keys for that platform?

So is my theory wrong about using that Android key extraction tool to possibly fix SF and Netflix?

[Baker]

The problem is not the CDM but to get hold of the decrypted data - which would be the hack... Video source ==> DRM decryption (CDM) ==?==> uncompress video frame based on codec (i.e. H.265) ==> put decompressed frame to frame buffer (accessed by the graphcs card) for showing.
I suspect that SF currently only has found a way to access the frame buffer which is kinda a screen recording. The hack would be to find a way to grab the DRM decrypted frame BEFORE uncompressing it (maintaining the source codec without need to re-encode it).

The above may be true or not, I am not a specialist in this area, but it is the general way.

I'm clearly not very smart when it comes to all of this CDM/DRM stuff, but I have to admit that I've learned a ton from many of the knowledgeable forum members here so thank you all for your patience and for the many explanations, etc.

Since I'm interested in learning/understanding things even more, I took a look at the site that Zammo linked to in post #8 above and noticed this: https://cdm-project.com/Android-Tools/KeyDive

If I'm understanding things correctly, which may not be the case, couldn't the developer use that Android tool in conjunction with the SF Android interface for Netflix to discover the DRM keys for that platform?

[Kattanders]

Can anyone tell me why Streamfab can't implement one of these CDM's to crack the DRM ? I know nothing about it but do we know the reason ? https://cdm-project.com/explore/repos

The problem is not the CDM but to get hold of the decrypted data - which would be the hack... Video source ==> DRM decryption (CDM) ==?==> uncompress video frame based on codec (i.e. H.265) ==> put decompressed frame to frame buffer (accessed by the graphcs card) for showing.
I suspect that SF currently only has found a way to access the frame buffer which is kinda a screen recording. The hack would be to find a way to grab the DRM decrypted frame BEFORE uncompressing it (maintaining the source codec without need to re-encode it).

The above may be true or not, I am not a specialist in this area, but it is the general way.

[Zammo]

Can anyone tell me why Streamfab can't implement one of these CDM's to crack the DRM ? I know nothing about it but do we know the reason ? https://cdm-project.com/explore/repos

[jpp72]

Yes, they lower the download limit on Netflix to 100 because it takes so long to download a movie that it's impossible to download even 100 in 24 hours. I may be wrong but wasn't it 200 at one time, I never downloaded more than 10 so I don't remember.

Only HBO/Max and Hulu were ever at 200. Netflix was never bumped to 200

[Chameleon]

That screenshot shows is (or thinks it is) receiving 1080p video. How long does it take to finish processing after the download is complete?

Upscaling a 480 video to 1080, even with hardware acceleration from a GPU (like Nvidia or Intel) with Fab's other tools (like Unifab) take many many hours, and often DAYS, even with a fast PC and top of the line GPU. So if your download and processing is days per movie, then Fab could possibly be upscaling to 1080p. BUT if its taking considerably less than an hour per movie

That being said, the method they have been temporarily using to get past the current DRM issues (especially with newer content on Amazon and Netflix) while they work on the permanent fix, relies on a process that does take a little longer than its normal "download the video,download audio, bypass DRM, then mux the audio and video parts back together" process it used in the past.

For more detail, see Post 38 of this other thread

Yes, they lower the download limit on Netflix to 100 because it takes so long to download a movie that it's impossible to download even 100 in 24 hours. I may be wrong but wasn't it 200 at one time, I never downloaded more than 10 so I don't remember.

[fanatic]

In StreamFab it should multiple 1080p, 720p, 480 and a couplemore resolutions to choose from. You could be right but I was thinking cause of how fast it finished it was legit downloaded.