3D Main Movie Backup plays back in 2D only

Trickster

Having a problem with the trial version, I presume its would be the same for the full version which is putting me off buying the software at the mo.

Basically I'm trying to make a Main Movie 3D backup (eg remove unwanted audio streams) to an .iso file.
When playing this .iso back in my standalone media player (HiMedia 900b) it isn't recognizing the .iso as 3D, and plays back in 2D only

I've looked inside the .iso and the .ssif files are there, so what could be going wrong ?

Tried this on 3 different films now, Dredd 3d, Avatar 3d, MIB 3 3d.
Same outcome each time.

Any ideas ?
I see person has had the same problem recently.

Here is attached log file, I presume all the options I selected were correct and trial copy should work ok.
Note: disks ripped with AnyHD



DVDFab 9.0.1.8 (2013/01/05  18:08:53)



 0m 00.42s: GPUAccelerate: 12351

 0m 00.43s: CUDA cap: 1

 0m 00.43s: Support coreavc decode: 0

 0m 00.43s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 : 5.0 : 3.0 

 0m 00.45s: Qt Translator file load success 

 0m 00.59s: Start get sys number.

 0m 00.60s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b

 0m 00.60s: Reg URL link is: 

 0m 00.60s: Version is: 9018

 0m 00.62s: Product is: 2

 0m 00.62s: Connect type is: 1

 0m 01.93s: Times of connecting error is: 0

 0m 01.95s: Parse string is: 50:30

 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: OV:9016

 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: BV:

 0m 02.13s: End check info.

 0m 02.15s: Load config successful.

 0m 02.82s: Profile Manager :: Begin Load Profile 

 0m 02.83s: Init profile data driver sucessful.

 0m 02.85s: Init GPU settings sucessful.

 0m 02.85s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1

 0m 02.87s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:

 0m 15.49s: Init burn engine successful.

 0m 48.34s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile 

 1m 51.09s: opening iso D:/DREDD3D.iso

 1m 51.10s: got media type 15

 1m 51.12s: got max lba 17567967

 1m 51.21s: got disc type 20

 1m 51.22s: type Blu-ray BDMV

 1m 51.23s: volume label DREDD

 1m 51.49s: internal path [:/BDMV/

 1m 51.53s: aacs 0 bd+ 0

 1m 51.87s: got discinfo

 1m 51.92s: got bdmv

 1m 54.43s: got extended bdinfo

 1m 54.44s: opened blu-ray

 2m 45.36s: Start get sys number.

 2m 45.37s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b

 2m 45.38s: Reg URL link is: 

 2m 45.39s: Version is: 9018

 2m 45.39s: Product is: 2

 2m 45.40s: Connect type is: 2

 2m 46.06s: Times of connecting error is: 0

 2m 46.07s: Parse string is: 20:30

 2m 46.08s: Parse string is: OV:9016

 2m 46.09s: Parse string is: BV:

 4m 04.98s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie

 4m 04.98s: Source: [:/BDMV/

 4m 04.99s: Playlist: 0

 4m 04.99s: Chapters: 1 -> 17

 4m 05.00s: TotalSize: 34310 MB

 4m 05.01s: SourceSize: 34310 MB

 4m 05.01s: RemoveHDAudio: 0

 4m 05.02s: CompressToAC3: 0

 4m 05.02s: OutputSize: 46100 MB

 4m 05.03s: OutputDisc: BDMV

 4m 05.03s: OutputTarget: BD50

 4m 05.04s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i

 4m 05.05s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D

 4m 05.05s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)

 4m 05.05s: info: streams(4113.1,4352.1,4608.1,4609.1)

 4m 05.05s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00201.ssif],atomic[00451.ssif],atomic[00452.ssif],atomic[00453.ssif]]])

 4m 05.05s: info: processing source(00201.ssif)

 6m 26.41s: info: processing source(00451.ssif)

 6m 48.60s: info: processing source(00452.ssif)

 6m 06.55s: info: processing source(00453.ssif)

 8m 37.15s: build iso from H:/Temps/Temp/MainMovie/DREDD/ with DVDFab

enduser9999

see below

glenns

To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab DVD burn engine must be checked in software and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I believe the fab burn engine is engaged to rip a blu-ray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE]

I checked the settings in DVDFab and the Write, Burning Engine was set to VSO Burning Engine by default. I changed that to DVDFab burning engine.

Where exactly is the Fab Ripper setting located?

With all the complaints being expressed in this forum, I just can't believe that no one has bothered to mention this information that you just pointed out.

Thanks Glenns, for all your help. :)

glenns

Use blue ray copy in it use clone to rip the 3d blu ray to hard drive then close fab reopen fab go to blu ray copy main movie put the iso you just ripped to hard drive in fab take out any soundtracks you don't want at the bottom of the page theirs the box where you can change the 50 gig to 25 gig if you want to reduce the blu ray to a smaller size this takes hours to do if you don't want to reduce the blu ray leave the setting at 50gigs hit start,on the next page fab already has 3d settings checked for you then change the output from your blu ray burner to output as a iso to your drive your going to use with the media player this should keep the movie in 3d.Fab will make a 3d folder with the main movie less any soundtracks you didn't want this will take 20-30 mins if your not reducing the file to 25 gigs then it will output your folder as a iso after it makes the folder in a 2 step process you don't have anything else to do when done the 3d iso will be on the drive you use with your media player.

Trickster

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE]

ahh OK, this could be my problem then, i've already ripped the movies to HDD with Any.

The Burning engine was set to VSO so I changed that to DVDFab and restarted tries again.......

Just did a main movie backup again with DVDfab burn engine setting and again = no 3d playback, even though .ssif files are present on the disk.

I dont know enough about it, but its as though the index.bmv or playlist are not telling my mediaplayer that the disk is 3D, even though the .ssif files are present.

fengtao

Please copy disc to hard disk with DVDFab at first, use either "Full Disc" or "Main Movie", but please choose "Copy as Blu-ray 3D", then compress again to see the result.

glenns

When the process is complete did you end up with a 3d iso or a 3d folder? some media players can only play one or the other my Micca does both.Check to see if you have the latest firm wear from your media players on line sight i checked this for you and the sight says theirs customised firmware for your model in their ad so maybe you need this firm wear.Have you put 3d movies on the media players hard drive before and able to view them in 3d? Did you use blu ray copy to clone the store brought 3d movie to your hard drive? Then use main movie take out what soundtracks you don't want then clicked next that brings you to the make 3d movie page where the make 3d movie should be pre checked for you then click start?

enduser9999

Here is what I did, but still no 3D disc at the end. I have also used the .ISO method but no 3D is produced just 2D

1. Load Blu-ray burner drive (E:\) with 3D movie [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]
2. Start DVDFab
3. Select the region, Blu-ray disc scans
4. Checked in settings DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine set to DVDFab Burning Engine
5. Select Blu-ray Copy, Main Movie
6. Source drive: Blu-ray drive with [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]
7. Target: C:\2Temp
8. How to copy Blu-ray 3D > Copy as Blu-ray 3D
9. Disk size: BD50 100% no compression
10. After movie is saved, go to and select Source:> C:\2Temp\Main Movie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW
11. Target: C:\3Temp
12. Disc Size: BD25 1080p/i size is reduced from 42.955 GB to 22.461 GB
12. When process is complete select Source: C:\3Temp\MainMovie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW
13. Target: E:\
14. Disc Size: BD25
15. Movie burns without issues but when played on 3D Blu-ray player there is no 3D image on the disc.

Trickster

@ Glenns, im making 3D isos but my Mediaplayer plays either (Himedia 900b)

However.......

Based on fengtao info and Glenns a few posts ago I can confirm the following....

The disk needs to be ripped initially by Dvdfab and then a 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso WILL play back in 3D.

If the disk was ripped with Any (like i did initially), the 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso will NOT play back in 3D.

So Dvdfab NEEDS to rip the disk first as glenn and fengtao.

Ive got an issue now with a couple of my 3d main movie backups, where i have removed all audio tracks, just keeping Eng DTS HD, where the audio keeps dropping out intermittently.
The full rip works fine.
This issue could be my Mediaplayers though (cant think why thou)

enduser9999

Have you tried compressing the disc to see if the 3D image remains?

glenns

Trickster:Looking at your media players requirements you must have 1.4 hdmi everywhere when using with 3d so are all your wires hdmi 1.4 high speed? same if hooked through a receiver and from receiver to tv If not that can be the reason for audio dropouts as theirs a whole lot of info going through the wires for 3d with hd audio and high bandwidth video at the same time.

glenns

Trickster:If all your cables are 1.4 and you are using hdmi as the audio out as that's the only one for hd sound then check your media players audio settings their should be the choice of raw and Lcpm make sure you have the right one selected for your receivers decoding and that your firmware is the latest for your media player.I also noted in your log file your using a old version of dvd fab we are using version 9.0.2.0 so upgrade that as well theirs a lot of improvements in the new fab program.

So now your saying you got 3d from a full disk iso to play in 3d on your media player right? doe's it also have dts hd master sound? because if it does then you know the cables can carry the 3d and dts master sound and your problem is now with a few blu rays that are main movie 3d dts master sound correct? Do you have any that are on your media players drive that are main movie dts master that play in 3d? The more info you provide the better.Did you use the fab program to clone the store brought dvd's that your having trouble with?

glenns

enduser9999:Post your log file and your burn files for the Red bird 3d bluray your having trouble with.

glenns

enduser9999 :Don't make copies from disks please do this:

Step #1 Use fab blu-ray copy in it use clone disk 50 gigs clone to hard drive takes 40-60 mins. when done close fab.

Step #2 Now you have a cloned copy with the 3d files in it take it put it in dvd virtual drive (a free fab program download it from the main fab page) open Fab once you put the file in virtual drive choice main movie virtual drive will load into the fab program with the loaded movie in a few seconds take out any soundtracks you don't want if you want to compress to 25 gig check that box
(you can also choice full disk if that's what you want) then click on next on the next page is the 3d settings they are already pre checked to make a 3d copy if their not make sure their checked.Then because your making disks theirs no changing the output (The other guy i am helping is putting the made file on his media players hard drive your making disks so the output is your hard drive where you should now have a 25 gig blank disk in the drive)

Next step is to hit the start button fab will now make a temporary file with the main movie compressed to 25 gig and without the soundtracks you didn't want.After hours of compressing when the program is done it will burn the disk for you.You must have the dvd fab burner selected in settings for the disk to come out in 3d.

Trickster

@ ENDUSER9999 - No I haven't compressed any disk images as I want to keep 1:1 sound/audio quality. I just make 3d .iso main movie to remove unwanted audio tracks.

*@ Glenns - As regards my cables and AV receiver, they are all 1.4 compliant. My FW on the media player is always the latest ;). HD audio output is set to raw.My mediaplayer can play DTS-HD/TRUE-HD fine on my full disk backups (3d.iso format) Im just having the following problem.*

Basically what is happening is this...

.*The full 3d .iso rip of my Avatar disk plays back fine in the mediaplayer, all audio tracks work fine inc English DTS-HD.The Main Movie 3d .iso backup I made with Dvdfab which ONLY contains English DTS-HD audio, the video is fine which plays in 3D (that problem solved thank you !!) but the audio keeps dropping out every few minutes - by that i mean audio disappears & I have to stop and restart the movie to get audio back.As mentioned though it could be a problem with the HiMedia 900b mediaplayer, but its odd how the untouched full .iso is fine, yet the main movie backup done by Fab gives me those issues.*

I need to investigate this further with some more tests which I can do later in the week when im back at home.

Trickster

glenns

Trickster:Ok i am glad i got your 3d problem solved now as to the audio dropping out only on main movie and not full disk iso's some things to try when you get home.

Try playing the main movie on a software player on your computer their are free ones like Nvidia 3d vision video player you can download from the Internet just to try to play the main movie hd sound to see if it plays on the computer soft wear player with out the sound dropping out.Even if you just play the regular blu ray non 3d part of the 3d movie it will tell you if the media player is at fault.If you are streaming the output over a network to your tv that can bring up other problems so use hdmi for best results.

Also make sure your cloning the store brought disk to hard drive using fab.

enduser9999

OK this is what I found out so far...

I installed a power DVD viewer program that lets me view Blu-ray discs directly on the PC monitor without any issues. Since my Blu-ray burner supports 3D playback and record, I can confirm on the computer monitor screen that the original video is in fact playing in 3D.

I copied the original disc using the folder and iso methods directly to the HD without compression and I can confirm that both the saved folder and iso images play back in 3D!

I then compressed the above iso image to BD25 size and saved that image back to another folder on the HD and when I played the compressed iso image directly from the HD folder, it is in fact 3D!

I'm now compressing the folder image to BD25 and will report the results.

>>> I can see now that the problem occurs when DVDFab burns the compressed image back on to the Blu-ray disc, this step is where the 3D image fails to copy on to the Blu-ray disc.

enduser9999

Trickster

Have you tried installing the K-Lite Codec Pack. This solved a lot of audio video headaches for me.