Having a problem with the trial version, I presume its would be the same for the full version which is putting me off buying the software at the mo. Basically I'm trying to make a Main Movie 3D backup (eg remove unwanted audio streams) to an .iso file. When playing this .iso back in my standalone media player (HiMedia 900b) it isn't recognizing the .iso as 3D, and plays back in 2D only I've looked inside the .iso and the .ssif files are there, so what could be going wrong ? Tried this on 3 different films now, Dredd 3d, Avatar 3d, MIB 3 3d. Same outcome each time. Any ideas ? I see person has had the same problem recently. Here is attached log file, I presume all the options I selected were correct and trial copy should work ok. Note: disks ripped with AnyHD DVDFab 9.0.1.8 (2013/01/05 18:08:53) 0m 00.42s: GPUAccelerate: 12351 0m 00.43s: CUDA cap: 1 0m 00.43s: Support coreavc decode: 0 0m 00.43s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 : 5.0 : 3.0 0m 00.45s: Qt Translator file load success 0m 00.59s: Start get sys number. 0m 00.60s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b 0m 00.60s: Reg URL link is: 0m 00.60s: Version is: 9018 0m 00.62s: Product is: 2 0m 00.62s: Connect type is: 1 0m 01.93s: Times of connecting error is: 0 0m 01.95s: Parse string is: 50:30 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: OV:9016 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: BV: 0m 02.13s: End check info. 0m 02.15s: Load config successful. 0m 02.82s: Profile Manager :: Begin Load Profile 0m 02.83s: Init profile data driver sucessful. 0m 02.85s: Init GPU settings sucessful. 0m 02.85s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1 0m 02.87s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray: 0m 15.49s: Init burn engine successful. 0m 48.34s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile 1m 51.09s: opening iso D:/DREDD3D.iso 1m 51.10s: got media type 15 1m 51.12s: got max lba 17567967 1m 51.21s: got disc type 20 1m 51.22s: type Blu-ray BDMV 1m 51.23s: volume label DREDD 1m 51.49s: internal path [:/BDMV/ 1m 51.53s: aacs 0 bd+ 0 1m 51.87s: got discinfo 1m 51.92s: got bdmv 1m 54.43s: got extended bdinfo 1m 54.44s: opened blu-ray 2m 45.36s: Start get sys number. 2m 45.37s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b 2m 45.38s: Reg URL link is: 2m 45.39s: Version is: 9018 2m 45.39s: Product is: 2 2m 45.40s: Connect type is: 2 2m 46.06s: Times of connecting error is: 0 2m 46.07s: Parse string is: 20:30 2m 46.08s: Parse string is: OV:9016 2m 46.09s: Parse string is: BV: 4m 04.98s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie 4m 04.98s: Source: [:/BDMV/ 4m 04.99s: Playlist: 0 4m 04.99s: Chapters: 1 -> 17 4m 05.00s: TotalSize: 34310 MB 4m 05.01s: SourceSize: 34310 MB 4m 05.01s: RemoveHDAudio: 0 4m 05.02s: CompressToAC3: 0 4m 05.02s: OutputSize: 46100 MB 4m 05.03s: OutputDisc: BDMV 4m 05.03s: OutputTarget: BD50 4m 05.04s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i 4m 05.05s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D 4m 05.05s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1) 4m 05.05s: info: streams(4113.1,4352.1,4608.1,4609.1) 4m 05.05s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00201.ssif],atomic[00451.ssif],atomic[00452.ssif],atomic[00453.ssif]]]) 4m 05.05s: info: processing source(00201.ssif) 6m 26.41s: info: processing source(00451.ssif) 6m 48.60s: info: processing source(00452.ssif) 6m 06.55s: info: processing source(00453.ssif) 8m 37.15s: build iso from H:/Temps/Temp/MainMovie/DREDD/ with DVDFab

To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab DVD burn engine must be checked in software and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I believe the fab burn engine is engaged to rip a blu-ray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE] I checked the settings in DVDFab and the Write, Burning Engine was set to VSO Burning Engine by default. I changed that to DVDFab burning engine. Where exactly is the Fab Ripper setting located? With all the complaints being expressed in this forum, I just can't believe that no one has bothered to mention this information that you just pointed out. Thanks Glenns, for all your help. :)

Use blue ray copy in it use clone to rip the 3d blu ray to hard drive then close fab reopen fab go to blu ray copy main movie put the iso you just ripped to hard drive in fab take out any soundtracks you don't want at the bottom of the page theirs the box where you can change the 50 gig to 25 gig if you want to reduce the blu ray to a smaller size this takes hours to do if you don't want to reduce the blu ray leave the setting at 50gigs hit start,on the next page fab already has 3d settings checked for you then change the output from your blu ray burner to output as a iso to your drive your going to use with the media player this should keep the movie in 3d.Fab will make a 3d folder with the main movie less any soundtracks you didn't want this will take 20-30 mins if your not reducing the file to 25 gigs then it will output your folder as a iso after it makes the folder in a 2 step process you don't have anything else to do when done the 3d iso will be on the drive you use with your media player.

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE] ahh OK, this could be my problem then, i've already ripped the movies to HDD with Any. The Burning engine was set to VSO so I changed that to DVDFab and restarted tries again....... Just did a main movie backup again with DVDfab burn engine setting and again = no 3d playback, even though .ssif files are present on the disk. I dont know enough about it, but its as though the index.bmv or playlist are not telling my mediaplayer that the disk is 3D, even though the .ssif files are present.

Please copy disc to hard disk with DVDFab at first, use either "Full Disc" or "Main Movie", but please choose "Copy as Blu-ray 3D", then compress again to see the result.

When the process is complete did you end up with a 3d iso or a 3d folder? some media players can only play one or the other my Micca does both.Check to see if you have the latest firm wear from your media players on line sight i checked this for you and the sight says theirs customised firmware for your model in their ad so maybe you need this firm wear.Have you put 3d movies on the media players hard drive before and able to view them in 3d? Did you use blu ray copy to clone the store brought 3d movie to your hard drive? Then use main movie take out what soundtracks you don't want then clicked next that brings you to the make 3d movie page where the make 3d movie should be pre checked for you then click start?

Here is what I did, but still no 3D disc at the end. I have also used the .ISO method but no 3D is produced just 2D1. Load Blu-ray burner drive (E:\) with 3D movie [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]2. Start DVDFab3. Select the region, Blu-ray disc scans4. Checked in settings DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine set to DVDFab Burning Engine5. Select Blu-ray Copy, Main Movie6. Source drive: Blu-ray drive with [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]7. Target: C:\2Temp8. How to copy Blu-ray 3D > Copy as Blu-ray 3D9. Disk size: BD50 100% no compression10. After movie is saved, go to and select Source:> C:\2Temp\Main Movie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW11. Target: C:\3Temp12. Disc Size: BD25 1080p/i size is reduced from 42.955 GB to 22.461 GB12. When process is complete select Source: C:\3Temp\MainMovie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW13. Target: E:\14. Disc Size: BD2515. Movie burns without issues but when played on 3D Blu-ray player there is no 3D image on the disc.

@ Glenns, im making 3D isos but my Mediaplayer plays either (Himedia 900b) However....... Based on fengtao info and Glenns a few posts ago I can confirm the following.... The disk needs to be ripped initially by Dvdfab and then a 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso WILL play back in 3D. If the disk was ripped with Any (like i did initially), the 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso will NOT play back in 3D. So Dvdfab NEEDS to rip the disk first as glenn and fengtao. Ive got an issue now with a couple of my 3d main movie backups, where i have removed all audio tracks, just keeping Eng DTS HD, where the audio keeps dropping out intermittently. The full rip works fine. This issue could be my Mediaplayers though (cant think why thou)

Have you tried compressing the disc to see if the 3D image remains?

3D Main Movie Backup plays back in 2D only

glenns

Enduser9999 When you put the movie back into fab that was reduced by fab from 50 gigs to 25 gigs or less did you use fab to burn the 3d file to disk?
If not you must use fab to burn the disk like this.

Open fab version 8 blu ray 3d copy, scroll down to write data, put in your fab reduced to 25 gig 3d movie then hit start and this will keep the 3d files in the burned movie.

In version 9 of fab open fab blu ray copy then select burn put the movie in and burn the disk.

P.S. Fab burner must be selected in the fab softwear settings.

enduser9999

Glenns,

Yes I use DVDFab to burn the compressed image to disk. I even went as far as to remove all other burning programs from the HD just in case they were causing contention. I also verified that the burn engine in fab is set to DVDFab burning engine.

I'm wondering now if there is a comparability issues between my Blu-ray burner and fab when burning 3D images to disc. I'm using the LG WH14NS40

glenns

I don't think its your burner at all please post the fab log files.

Go to documents, fab program, look for log files, then open them their you find burn and internal files you cut and paste these files to note pad.Cut and paste the latest files that you had trouble with not all of them do this for the burn file also and post them here in a post using cut and paste.

These files will tell us exactly what you did.Then we will look at them and see where you went wrong or if theirs a error or a bug in the fab program.

Try virtual drive load the reduced fab iso into virtual drive then use the fab burner in bluray copy but post the log files first so we can see what steps you took exactly.

geilee

[QUOTE=enduser9999;131444]
...
10. After movie is saved, go to and select Source:> C:\2Temp\Main Movie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW
11. Target: C:\3Temp
12. Disc Size: BD25 1080p/i size is reduced from 42.955 GB to 22.461 GB
[/QUOTE]

Hi,enduser9999
Whether to mount the dvdfab.miniso file to DVDFab Virtual Drive and then use it as source?

enduser9999

Problem solved!

The step I was missing was the "scroll down to write data" under Blu-ray copy after the file or iso was compressed. I kept selecting main movie under Blu-ray copy instead of the Write Data.

This part of the process was very confusing because you then get to pick the Source as your compressed saved file or iso then write it back to your Target BD25 disc. This did the trick.

Thank you Glenns for your detailed information, and steps much appreciated. :)

enduser9999

The copy plays in 3D on the computer without any problems but when I play it on the LG 3D Blu-ray player on the 3D TV it will only play back in 2D. Bummer :(

3dnut

[QUOTE=enduser9999;131586]The copy plays in 3D on the computer without any problems but when I play it on the LG 3D Blu-ray player on the 3D TV it will only play back in 2D. Bummer :([/QUOTE]

isnt there an option on the players remote to force it to into 3d mode?

glenns

Enduser9999:
Did you download the free virtual drive program from fabs front page?
Did you load the reduced 25 gig file into virtual drive and use it as source to burn the movie? This may solve your problem of no 3d on your player.

What software program did you use on the computer to play the disk in 3d?
The more info. you give us the better.Log files tell a lot of info.and you really should learn to include them whenever you have a problem with fab.

Overview of Virtual Drive

DVDFab Virtual Drive is a virtual emulator for both DVD and Blu-ray. It can emulate up to 18 drives and mount DVD/Blu-ray ISO image files created by DVDFab and other programs, and .miniso file created by DVDFab Blu-ray Copy.
For example, if you want to play a Blu-ray ISO image file backup on your computer, you need to mount it with DVDFab Virtual Drive, then, play it with PowerDVD.
It has some settings for your using habit and convenience, and enables you to go to its forum for more information just by one click.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=3dnut;131600]isnt there an option on the players remote to force it to into 3d mode?[/QUOTE]

Yes there is. I played with that but even with the 3D settings the video shown is not 3D.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=glenns;131603]Enduser9999:
1. Did you download the free virtual drive program from fabs front page?
2. Did you load the reduced 25 gig file into virtual drive and use it as source to burn the movie? This may solve your problem of no 3d on your player.

3. What software program did you use on the computer to play the disk in 3d?

The more info. you give us the better. Log files tell a lot of info.and you really should learn to include them whenever you have a problem with fab.

Overview of Virtual Drive

DVDFab Virtual Drive is a virtual emulator for both DVD and Blu-ray. It can emulate up to 18 drives and mount DVD/Blu-ray ISO image files created by DVDFab and other programs, and .miniso file created by DVDFab Blu-ray Copy.
For example, if you want to play a Blu-ray ISO image file backup on your computer, you need to mount it with DVDFab Virtual Drive, then, play it with PowerDVD.
It has some settings for your using habit and convenience, and enables you to go to its forum for more information just by one click.[/QUOTE]

1. Yes I did.
2. No I did not use it that way.
3. Power DVD 12

The logs seem to get wiped out when DVDFab is closed. When I go find then they are not there. If I open DVDFab is see new logs created but they contain no burn information.

I decided to go back and check all the other discs that I had burned using the default VSO burning engine, then DVDFab burning engine, both folder, and iso files and they all play in 3D on the computer, but not on the TV.

I still have the compressed disc image on the HD, I will burn another copy using the virtual drive.

glenns

Fab makes log files and stores them in 2 folders in the program files not the running log you see when you are using the program.

The log files are in the place were you put the fab program during installation of the program.By default if you let the fab installer pick a place on your hard drive it will put it in documents so click the windows logo on your computers display page in the lower left side of the screen then click on documents then click on dvdfab when opened click on log when opened theirs the burn files in one file and the internal files in the other.If you never deleted these before every dvd you made with fab will be in the internal files list the burn file will contain only the burned files made with fab burner the vso engine has its own log.In the internal log the last dvd made is on the bottom of the list in the burn file the last burn i believe is on the top of the list cut and past the logs to a post for the last dvd made we don't need that long list just the part containing the dvd you have trouble with.You can delete both lists when they get to long.

enduser9999

OK loaded miniso, burned from that source and when played on TV it is still in 2D

Here is the log file:

DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:43:22)

0m 01.10s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.10s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.10s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.10s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.10s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.18s: Load config successful.
0m 01.37s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.18s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.18s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.18s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.60s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.60s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.85s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.35s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.42s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.40s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.68s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.73s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.20s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.23s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.85s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 13.95s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 14.07s: StartNotify successful.

DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:53:31)

0m 01.12s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.12s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.12s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.12s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.12s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.18s: Load config successful.
0m 01.29s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.04s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.04s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.04s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.46s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.46s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.70s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.20s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.26s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.21s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.50s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.56s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.00s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.03s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.65s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 26.71s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 26.82s: StartNotify successful.
0m 26.87s: opening drive G
0m 26.87s: opened i/o
0m 26.87s: got media type 16
0m 26.87s: got max lba 11508895
0m 26.92s: got disc type 20
0m 26.92s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 26.92s: volume label RED_BIRD_3D_WW

DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:54:29)

0m 01.17s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.17s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.17s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.17s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.17s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.23s: Load config successful.
0m 01.35s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.28s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.28s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.29s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.71s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.71s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.96s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.46s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.53s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.50s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.78s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.84s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.29s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.34s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.96s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 13.28s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 13.37s: StartNotify successful.
0m 13.42s: opening drive E
0m 13.45s: opened i/o
0m 13.45s: got media type 16
0m 13.46s: got max lba 0
0m 13.46s: opening drive G
0m 13.46s: opened i/o
0m 13.46s: got media type 16
0m 13.46s: got max lba 11508895
0m 13.47s: got disc type 20
0m 13.47s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 13.47s: volume label RED_BIRD_3D_WW
0m 32.41s: set folder G:/BDMV/ with type 2
0m 32.41s: opening folder G:/BDMV/
0m 32.49s: got bdmv
0m 32.50s: got extended bdinfo
2m 38.08s: burn folder G:/ with DVDFab

glenns

Post the burn file also.

enduser9999

16:57:06 Info Input Speed is: 35968, Output Speed: 35968
16:57:06 Info StartPerf Speed: 22429, EndPerf Speed: 35968

Burn Folder 2013-01-10 16:57:06 -----------------------------------------------
16:57:06 Info RootDir: G:/
16:57:06 Info VolumeName: BD_VOLUME
16:57:06 Info WriteMode: 4
16:57:06 Info Operation Started!
16:57:06 Info Source File Size: 22478 MB
16:57:25 Info Writing LeadIn...
16:57:25 Info Write started 11508896 sectors to write
17:09:19 Info Synchronising Cache...
17:09:19 Info Synchronising Disc 0
17:09:23 Info Synchronising Disc 65536
17:09:24 Info Closing Track...
17:09:24 Info Finalising Disc...
17:09:48 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:35

glenns

Put the reduced iso in power dvd, hit the video button in power dvd, click on the drive you put the movie in,then click on the BDMV, then click on the stream file, look at the file on top it should say ssif this is the folder now to see if anything is in the ssfi folder you now hold your left mouse button down and dont let it up and put the mouse pointer on the ssfi file folder does the number 1 come up in between what looks like a single frame of film?
If so your movie has the 3d files in it if no number 1 comes up then you only have a empty ssfi folder and it won't play in 3d.What 3d tv are you using? you are using hdmi to the tv from the 3d blu ray movie player right?

glenns

Your burn speed seems to high.Burn at half the rated disk speed for best results change this is fabs settings.When burn speed is slower more players will be able to read the burnt disk better because it burns the pits deeper in the dvd.

arcazal

If blu-ray contain branched playlists or alternated mains/endings (for example Disney films), the main movie copy only play 2D.
Sorry for my bad english.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=glenns;131636]Put the reduced iso in power dvd, hit the video button in power dvd, click on the drive you put the movie in,then click on the BDMV, then click on the stream file, look at the file on top it should say ssif this is the folder now to see if anything is in the ssfi folder you now hold your left mouse button down and dont let it up and put the mouse pointer on the ssfi file folder does the number 1 come up in between what looks like a single frame of film?
If so your movie has the 3d files in it if no number 1 comes up then you only have a empty ssfi folder and it won't play in 3d.What 3d tv are you using? you are using hdmi to the tv from the 3d blu ray movie player right?[/QUOTE]

I'm having trouble trying to duplicate what you describe with power dvd. I don't see a video button in PD version 12. My 3D tv is the LG 50PM6700, Blu-ray player is the LG BP620, using high-speed HDMI cable with internet between tv and blu-ray player, both have the latest firmwares installed.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=arcazal;131649]If blu-ray contain branched playlists or alternated mains/endings (for example Disney films), the main movie copy only play 2D.
Sorry for my bad english.[/QUOTE]

OK I will try to copy full disc instead of main movie and compress.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=glenns;131638]Your burn speed seems to high.Burn at half the rated disk speed for best results change this is fabs settings.When burn speed is slower more players will be able to read the burnt disk better because it burns the pits deeper in the dvd.[/QUOTE]

Burn speed does not appear to be an issue, since there is no pixilation, freezing, dropped audio, or bad colors. I will make the next copy at a lower speed.

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