Having a problem with the trial version, I presume its would be the same for the full version which is putting me off buying the software at the mo. Basically I'm trying to make a Main Movie 3D backup (eg remove unwanted audio streams) to an .iso file. When playing this .iso back in my standalone media player (HiMedia 900b) it isn't recognizing the .iso as 3D, and plays back in 2D only I've looked inside the .iso and the .ssif files are there, so what could be going wrong ? Tried this on 3 different films now, Dredd 3d, Avatar 3d, MIB 3 3d. Same outcome each time. Any ideas ? I see person has had the same problem recently. Here is attached log file, I presume all the options I selected were correct and trial copy should work ok. Note: disks ripped with AnyHD DVDFab 9.0.1.8 (2013/01/05 18:08:53) 0m 00.42s: GPUAccelerate: 12351 0m 00.43s: CUDA cap: 1 0m 00.43s: Support coreavc decode: 0 0m 00.43s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 : 5.0 : 3.0 0m 00.45s: Qt Translator file load success 0m 00.59s: Start get sys number. 0m 00.60s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b 0m 00.60s: Reg URL link is: 0m 00.60s: Version is: 9018 0m 00.62s: Product is: 2 0m 00.62s: Connect type is: 1 0m 01.93s: Times of connecting error is: 0 0m 01.95s: Parse string is: 50:30 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: OV:9016 0m 01.96s: Parse string is: BV: 0m 02.13s: End check info. 0m 02.15s: Load config successful. 0m 02.82s: Profile Manager :: Begin Load Profile 0m 02.83s: Init profile data driver sucessful. 0m 02.85s: Init GPU settings sucessful. 0m 02.85s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1 0m 02.87s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray: 0m 15.49s: Init burn engine successful. 0m 48.34s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile 1m 51.09s: opening iso D:/DREDD3D.iso 1m 51.10s: got media type 15 1m 51.12s: got max lba 17567967 1m 51.21s: got disc type 20 1m 51.22s: type Blu-ray BDMV 1m 51.23s: volume label DREDD 1m 51.49s: internal path [:/BDMV/ 1m 51.53s: aacs 0 bd+ 0 1m 51.87s: got discinfo 1m 51.92s: got bdmv 1m 54.43s: got extended bdinfo 1m 54.44s: opened blu-ray 2m 45.36s: Start get sys number. 2m 45.37s: Serial number is: 40-61-86-3a-7b-3b 2m 45.38s: Reg URL link is: 2m 45.39s: Version is: 9018 2m 45.39s: Product is: 2 2m 45.40s: Connect type is: 2 2m 46.06s: Times of connecting error is: 0 2m 46.07s: Parse string is: 20:30 2m 46.08s: Parse string is: OV:9016 2m 46.09s: Parse string is: BV: 4m 04.98s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie 4m 04.98s: Source: [:/BDMV/ 4m 04.99s: Playlist: 0 4m 04.99s: Chapters: 1 -> 17 4m 05.00s: TotalSize: 34310 MB 4m 05.01s: SourceSize: 34310 MB 4m 05.01s: RemoveHDAudio: 0 4m 05.02s: CompressToAC3: 0 4m 05.02s: OutputSize: 46100 MB 4m 05.03s: OutputDisc: BDMV 4m 05.03s: OutputTarget: BD50 4m 05.04s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i 4m 05.05s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D 4m 05.05s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1) 4m 05.05s: info: streams(4113.1,4352.1,4608.1,4609.1) 4m 05.05s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00201.ssif],atomic[00451.ssif],atomic[00452.ssif],atomic[00453.ssif]]]) 4m 05.05s: info: processing source(00201.ssif) 6m 26.41s: info: processing source(00451.ssif) 6m 48.60s: info: processing source(00452.ssif) 6m 06.55s: info: processing source(00453.ssif) 8m 37.15s: build iso from H:/Temps/Temp/MainMovie/DREDD/ with DVDFab

To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab DVD burn engine must be checked in software and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I believe the fab burn engine is engaged to rip a blu-ray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE] I checked the settings in DVDFab and the Write, Burning Engine was set to VSO Burning Engine by default. I changed that to DVDFab burning engine. Where exactly is the Fab Ripper setting located? With all the complaints being expressed in this forum, I just can't believe that no one has bothered to mention this information that you just pointed out. Thanks Glenns, for all your help. :)

Use blue ray copy in it use clone to rip the 3d blu ray to hard drive then close fab reopen fab go to blu ray copy main movie put the iso you just ripped to hard drive in fab take out any soundtracks you don't want at the bottom of the page theirs the box where you can change the 50 gig to 25 gig if you want to reduce the blu ray to a smaller size this takes hours to do if you don't want to reduce the blu ray leave the setting at 50gigs hit start,on the next page fab already has 3d settings checked for you then change the output from your blu ray burner to output as a iso to your drive your going to use with the media player this should keep the movie in 3d.Fab will make a 3d folder with the main movie less any soundtracks you didn't want this will take 20-30 mins if your not reducing the file to 25 gigs then it will output your folder as a iso after it makes the folder in a 2 step process you don't have anything else to do when done the 3d iso will be on the drive you use with your media player.

[QUOTE=glenns;131350]To make a 3d copy fab dvd burn engine must be checked in softwear and Fab ripper must be used for the the rip not some other ripper.I belive the fab burn engine is engadged to rip a bluray to hard drive without it no 3d so try it this way and report results please.[/QUOTE] ahh OK, this could be my problem then, i've already ripped the movies to HDD with Any. The Burning engine was set to VSO so I changed that to DVDFab and restarted tries again....... Just did a main movie backup again with DVDfab burn engine setting and again = no 3d playback, even though .ssif files are present on the disk. I dont know enough about it, but its as though the index.bmv or playlist are not telling my mediaplayer that the disk is 3D, even though the .ssif files are present.

Please copy disc to hard disk with DVDFab at first, use either "Full Disc" or "Main Movie", but please choose "Copy as Blu-ray 3D", then compress again to see the result.

When the process is complete did you end up with a 3d iso or a 3d folder? some media players can only play one or the other my Micca does both.Check to see if you have the latest firm wear from your media players on line sight i checked this for you and the sight says theirs customised firmware for your model in their ad so maybe you need this firm wear.Have you put 3d movies on the media players hard drive before and able to view them in 3d? Did you use blu ray copy to clone the store brought 3d movie to your hard drive? Then use main movie take out what soundtracks you don't want then clicked next that brings you to the make 3d movie page where the make 3d movie should be pre checked for you then click start?

Here is what I did, but still no 3D disc at the end. I have also used the .ISO method but no 3D is produced just 2D1. Load Blu-ray burner drive (E:\) with 3D movie [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]2. Start DVDFab3. Select the region, Blu-ray disc scans4. Checked in settings DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine set to DVDFab Burning Engine5. Select Blu-ray Copy, Main Movie6. Source drive: Blu-ray drive with [RED_BIRD_3D_WW]7. Target: C:\2Temp8. How to copy Blu-ray 3D > Copy as Blu-ray 3D9. Disk size: BD50 100% no compression10. After movie is saved, go to and select Source:> C:\2Temp\Main Movie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW11. Target: C:\3Temp12. Disc Size: BD25 1080p/i size is reduced from 42.955 GB to 22.461 GB12. When process is complete select Source: C:\3Temp\MainMovie\RED_BIRD_3D_WW13. Target: E:\14. Disc Size: BD2515. Movie burns without issues but when played on 3D Blu-ray player there is no 3D image on the disc.

@ Glenns, im making 3D isos but my Mediaplayer plays either (Himedia 900b) However....... Based on fengtao info and Glenns a few posts ago I can confirm the following.... The disk needs to be ripped initially by Dvdfab and then a 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso WILL play back in 3D. If the disk was ripped with Any (like i did initially), the 3D mainmovie only backup to .iso will NOT play back in 3D. So Dvdfab NEEDS to rip the disk first as glenn and fengtao. Ive got an issue now with a couple of my 3d main movie backups, where i have removed all audio tracks, just keeping Eng DTS HD, where the audio keeps dropping out intermittently. The full rip works fine. This issue could be my Mediaplayers though (cant think why thou)

Have you tried compressing the disc to see if the 3D image remains?

3D Main Movie Backup plays back in 2D only

glenns

Ok on powerdvd 10 when opened theirs 3 tabs on the top left that say movie video and music if version 12 has these tabs or buttons like them when you first load a dvd it's goes in movie mode on the movie tab theirs a smaller tab to change the drive your going to use with power dvd so make sure you have the drive set first then load the movie in power dvd and click video you want to see the movies files in the video box their you will see the ssfi file folder at the top of the movies list of included files just hold the left mouse button down while you put the mouse pointer over the ssif folder if you see a single frame of movie film with a (1) in it then the movie has 3d files in the folder and should play in 3d.

On the burn speed take my word for it if you burn to fast some players won't even play the movie as they don't see the information they are looking for so they don't play at all.Standard safe mode is burn at half the disk speed or even slower.

Upon further research models LGBP620,LGBD660 and a Samsung model were reported having trouble with fabs 3d copies and displaying black screen when trying to play 3d backups i am not sure your problem is this but you can read about it here if you haven't already.

Doe's a 50 gig fab made iso work on your stand alone player? Can you try your 25 gig disks in a friends player or playstation to see if it's your model bluray player that's effected?

glenns

Another thing you can try is to use the store brought disk and make a main movie 3d copy from the disk and burn with fab burner.Normally we don't do this as it puts wear on your burner drive.9.0.2.0 is the lastest version of fab use this as theirs a lot of changes to this version.

glenns

Enduser9999:
Did you make any progress?

enduser9999

Hi Glenns,

Thanks for being so persistent in getting this problem solved. I took Arcazal's advice and tried copying the entire disc and not just the main movie like I was doing before and this time it worked! I now have the full 3D effect on the copy. It plays in 3D on both the computer and the Blu-ray player. I made some discoveries along the way.

To get a high quality copy without any audio dropouts or bad video. Turn OFF all applications running on the PC, including the anti-virus program. Do not use the computer for any other purpose during the copy and compressing process.

The Avatar 3D disc is 46.273 GB in size. I got it to compress to 22.646 GB without any visible or audible degradation by following the above tip.

How I got the 3D copy to work:

FIRST PHASE COPY THE FULL DISC TO HD WITHOUT COMPRESSING

1. Make sure under Common Settings that DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine is set to the: DVDFab Burning Engine
2. Inset Disc, select Blu-ray Copy, Full Disc
3. Select region when disc starts; wait for DVDFAb to scan disc.
4. How to copy Blu-ray 3D, select "Copy as Blu-ray", Check "Remove HD Audio" if not needed.
5. Disc size at bottom leave it set to "BD50" DO NOT COMPRESS AT THIS TIME
6. Your "Source:" should now be the disc you are going to back up
7. Your "Target:" should be saved as ISO to the HD by selecting icon all the way to the right of the Target.
8. When full disc copy is done, close DVDFab and remove the original disc from Blu-ray drive.

SECOND PHASE COMPRESS ISO TO 25 GB

NOTE:
IF you have anti-virus, and any other programs running turn them all off, and do not use your computer for any other purpose during this process. Doing so will allow your CPU to focus solely on this task and produce good quality results.

1. Start DVDFab Virtual Drive and mount the above saved ISO.
2. Start DVDFab, under "Source" click the down arrow and locate above saved ISO mounted on the virtual drive.
3. Under "Target" click on ISO icon located all the way to the right and select a location to save the compressed full disc ISO image.
4. Under "How to copy Blu-ray 3d" leave it set to "Copy as Blu-ray 3D"
5. In the disc size area set it to "BD25 1080p/i"
6. You can select the "Remove HD Audio" box if not needed.
7. Allow Disc to scan, when done click the "Start" button.
8. Allow Disc to compress. This process will take about 8 hours to complete.
9. When finished, close DVDFab.

THIRD PHASE, COPY YOUR COMPRESSED ISO IMAGE TO a BLANK Blu-ray DISC

1. Start DVDFab virtual drive, select unmount all.
2. Right click DVDFab virtual drive icon on the systray and select the drive shown, and mount.
3. Locate the compressed ISO image saved in the second phase, and mount it.
4. Start DVDFab, under "Source" click the down arrow and locate the ISO mounted on the virtual drive.
5. Under "Target" select your Blu-ray burner drive
6. Under "Blu-ray Copy" select "Full Disc"
7. How to copy Blue-ray 3D, select "Copy as Blu-ray 3D"
8. Under disc size, select "BD25 1080p/i
9. Click Start, close DVDFab when done.

glenns

I am glad it works with full disk and being it doesn't work with main movie then theirs a fab bug that needs to be taken care of.I would send your logs with the failed main movie attempt to fab support by email so they can fix this.Also explain it works with full disk.

I don't think turning off Internet security is a good idea any time.Fab uses the Internet during the making and decoding of the disk leaving your fire wall and computer open to attack.

Their should be no audio drop outs or bad video when using fab their are dozens of programs working in the backround of most computers and i don't ever here anyone else shutting down security programs to make Fab work better.Of cause this is up to you it's your computer that's at risk.Now i wouldn't run say a software player and convert a dvd but i have before with out any problems i have a 2 core computer a lot of people have 4-8 core computers and can run a bunch of stuff at once so i guess it depends on your computer.I have used one version of fab to convert and another to put a blu ray on the hard drive both running at the same time without any problems with many programs running in the backround.Fab has a switch in software allowing you to run more than 1 version at the same time.

Now if your using a slow computer 1 core just meeting fabs minimum requirements for use then by all means just run Fab alone but I still think a low resource security program like Norton 360 should be running in the backround to protect your computer.

enduser9999

My burning PC has a dual core CPU. I even had to add extra fans because it would shut down the processor due to excessive temperatures.

Since I can't edit the previous post I'm fixing a typo on the first phase.

FIRST PHASE COPY THE FULL DISC TO HD WITHOUT COMPRESSING

1. Make sure under Common Settings that DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine is set to the: DVDFab Burning Engine
2. Inset Disc, select Blu-ray Copy, Full Disc
3. Select region when disc starts; wait for DVDFAb to scan disc.
4. How to copy Blu-ray 3D, select "Copy as Blu-ray 3D", Check "Remove HD Audio" if not needed.
5. Disc size at bottom leave it set to "BD50" DO NOT COMPRESS AT THIS TIME
6. Your "Source:" should now be the disc you are going to back up
7. Your "Target:" should be saved as ISO to the HD by selecting icon all the way to the right of the Target.
8. When full disc copy is done, close DVDFab and remove the original disc from Blu-ray drive

Gary1609

Now I am confused with all this.
Im not having any luck with DVDFab and seriously considering ditching it despite having bought a lifetime subscription. :(

First it was the issue of black screen on Fox 3D blurays ( i have made about 15 coasters so far )
Now Dredd 3D refuses to work,when I try to play the 3D version from backup it tells me that a 3D TV and player is required,yet when I put the master disc in it works as it should,instantly detecting I have 3d tv and player.
So once again I have another coaster from trying to backup a 3D bluray.

I have always done full disc, set to copy as 3D Bluray.. ripped to Hard drive making a mini iso which i then mount using virtual drive and then set it to burn the full disc on a 25gb disc.
I have done this with success for ages but only recently started running into issues with backup 3D discs.
On Dredd the 2D version plays fine but 3D refuses to play as its not recognising i have a 3d player.

glenns

Gary1609:
I have been following your posts in the other cat. I wondered if you tried to make a disk from the store brought 3d blu ray instead of putting it on the hard drive first? Sometimes this works on some disks.When you put the disk on the hard drive did you make sure fab burning engine was checked in software and that your useing fabs latest version please check both to make sure of each.The Simple cost effective solution is to get a media player and kiss all these problems,future problems and Ciniva goodbye.Look what blu rays cost and all the coasters your making

glenns

Enduser9999:

Are you overclocking your cpu? Their is no overheating using fab with my 2 core computer.

Gary1609

[QUOTE=glenns;131953]Gary1609:
I have been following your posts in the other cat. I wondered if you tried to make a disk from the store brought 3d blu ray instead of putting it on the hard drive first? Sometimes this works on some disks.When you put the disk on the hard drive did you make sure fab burning engine was checked in software and that your useing fabs latest version please check both to make sure of each.The Simple cost effective solution is to get a media player and kiss all these problems,future problems and Ciniva goodbye.Look what blu rays cost and all the coasters your making[/QUOTE]

You cant do that with a 3D disc can you glenns?
I was always in the belief that for a 3d backup to work on a 25gb disc you had to create a mini iso and use virtual drive to mount it,im sure there was a thread in here saying something of that nature..I have copied 2D films directly from the disc with no problem.

I dont have the cinavia issue as i have 3 standalone blurays ( 1 of them is not infected ) ..im happy with the players performance on master discs so dont want to retire my players and im not convinced that media players wont be targeted in the future regarding cinavia ( although im not convinced cinavia will be a problem a year from now anyway)

Its just this sudden 3D issue thats driving me mad,the black screen issue is a priority for DVDFab so Im told so I believe they will sort that out soon.
This new issue with Dredd will no doubt also be sorted,Im wondering if I should make an iso instead of ticking the mini iso ( would that make any difference? ) also i burnt at 4 speed,playback is perfect in 2d but its not recognising my player as a 3d player but would burning at 2 speed make any difference regarding playing back in 3d?

My biggest problem is obviously because im fitting it onto a 25gb disc it takes pretty much the day to get it done ( 8 hours-ish ) so it becomes very demanding when i have to do other things on the pc.

The one thing I wouldnt do is too switch my protection off when backing the disc up but i have left it working overnight without any other tasks being done on the computer.

Like you Glenns I dont have any overheating issues using DVDFab ( i have intel 2 core ).

I guess its all going to be trial and error,it just drives me mad that i can back up all 3ds from 12 months ago but since prometheus i have had so many issues with 3d,although spiderman 3d backed up perfectly.

enduser9999

[QUOTE=glenns;131954]Enduser9999:

Are you overclocking your cpu? Their is no overheating using fab with my 2 core computer.[/QUOTE]

No I am not. But I'm using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 +4200 CPU on a very crappy motherboard with on board video.

When DVDFab starts to compress the ISO file the computer would abruptly shut down, so I installed a temperature monitoring program and noticed that the CPU heatsink fan was not spinning fast enough so the core temperature would escalate to 105 degrees Celsius and shut down due to thermal overload.

After I replaced the CPU fan I noticed that the chipset heatsink was getting very hot also, so I added another fan to keep it cool, now it burns great without any issues.

Even with all the problems that I had before I never made a single coaster. :)

glenns

Gary:Please do this step by step.
1-Take store brought disk open fab ( latest version 9) hit the burn button in version 9 when done you have a 50 gig iso.

2.Take 50 gig iso put in virtual drive open fab blu ray copy now change to 25 gigs and do main movie but change target from your blu ray drive to a iso by hitting the blue hand with a dvd in it on the target box.When done you should now have a 25 gig iso (Not a folder) good now put the 25 gig iso into virtual drive and take the 50 gig one out of virtual drive.then open blu ray copy hit burn and burn to disk.This process keeps everything in iso form complete with the 3d ssif files.If this doesn't work take your burned 25 gig disks to a friends house and see if his player can play them in 3d or try a PlayStation or 3d game machine with 3d blu ray drive.

3. continue to think of media player as a cure and cheaper than what your doing now.Don't you have a birthday coming up? :)
Your old 3d players will make nice gifts or if you have kids give them a nice gift.When you have a media player theirs no one to borrow your 3d disks anymore so you save money on unreturned disks saving friends for other uses.

4. Disregard make 3d movie from disk without putting on hard drive first I was having a 3d dream and sleep typing on the computer.:eek:

5 Set burn speed for one half disk speed if you have 6x disks use 3x speed or slower (slower speeds mean more players will see the burnt disk properly.)

6.One more thing to try-Use a older version of fab because their always changing fab some times things were better working on older versions.Try to line up the month of the fab program that last worked for you last before these new movies came out maybe its fab that changed not the movies.The fab dates they came out are on the download page you can still download older versions and theirs some on other Internet sights just use a search engine and search for older fab versions.

3dnut

does dvdfab add the navigation command to force the disc into 3d mode from the start using the subcommand output mode.

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