DVDFab (UI/General) Blu-ray 2 DVD request

[moonie2001]

I would really like to buy bd2dvd converter but it missing the most important...

when convert a BD with a DTS Master the converter not only removes the hd audio, no, the converter removes DTS complete and create a "Dolby Digital" audio stream...


this suck, and this is the only reason for NOT buy bd2dvd ripper...

why convert this app the dts stream to a simply dd5.1?

[Complication]

In order to comply with the DVD specification DVDFab is required to create an AC3 track. Being able to also create/keep an additional DTS track might be useful to a few but might be rather confusing to create a UI for.

[moonie2001]

In order to comply with the DVD specification DVDFab is required to create an AC3 track. Being able to also create/keep an additional DTS track might be useful to a few but might be rather confusing to create a UI for.

sorry, but this is not correct...
a dts audio track IS comply with the DVD specification.

its only needed to extract the core from the hd track, or just copy from a bd with standard dts track!

a dvd without any ac3 track is comply with the dvd specification too...
(by the way, remove a dts track is sick )

[Complication]

While not authoritative, this sums things up nicely:

"The audio data on a DVD movie can be PCM, DTS, MPEG-1 Audio Layer II (MP2), or Dolby Digital (AC-3) format. In countries using the PAL system standard DVD-Video releases must contain at least one audio track using the PCM, MP2, or AC-3 format, and all standard PAL players must support all three of these formats. A similar standard exists in countries using the NTSC system, though with no requirement mandating the use of or support for the MP2 format. DTS audio is optional for all players, as DTS was not part of the initial draft standard and was added later; thus, many early players are unable to play DTS audio tracks."



A DVD created with only DTS would not play in all players; Therefor, it would not be considered compliant with the DVD standard.

[moonie2001]

im glad to live in austria -.-

any player here can playback dts

i can't live without DTS audio ^^




but i think this suggestion should be possilble : PLEASE ADD A 2ND PASS
with a 2nd pass should be possible to get a better DVD (quality is top with one pass too, but a 2nd should be better)

[lzk87]

+ 1 for a second pass

[fengtao]

Dear all,

The DTS stream in Blu-ray cannot be reused for DVD, the spec is different.

We need decode DTS at first, then re-encode it, and for now we can only encode to AC3.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[moonie2001]

here you can find a tutorial for using the dts stream in your BD2DVD

will translate soon for the english users!

@fentago i know that you cant just copy the hd audio, but you need simple to extract the dts core and mux in the vob's


with my tutorial you have without de/encode the dts core audio stream a "DTS DVD"


but other question

it is possible to allow the user set a custuom bitrate?

i.e. scream is too big to fit on a dvd9 with dts 1509 kbit
(i know i can use dvd5 for the output, but why i should do this )

just with -1000kbit/s for the main movie is the output fit for a dvd9+dts
(current i need to reencode a 2nd to fit for a dvd9 with fab dvdcopy)

[moonie2001]

@fenago



english tutorial!
you can see, its not needed to decode and reencode the dts stream

[IPopov50]

you can see, its not needed to decode and reencode the dts stream

moonie2001 Great job!!! I'm pretty sure a lot of members will choose this way to have DTS in their DVDs. However, what you deed is:
(a) Decoded. Extracted core from DTS-MA. and then,
(b) Re-encoded to meet the spec of your video and embedded into your container.
You did exactly what Fengtao was talking about.
Now, imagine all that process incorporated into DVDFab... I don't think it worth it... IMHO

[moonie2001]

hi

thank you its my pleasure ^^

but: there s NOTHING to reencode!
after extract the core from the master file , dvdauthor simple MUX the dts in the vob file!

if you need to ENCODE the dts its needed to install an encoder, but i haven't install any encoder for dts


and i I THINK it worth it dts is the ONLY good audio for dvd

[moonie2001]

(b) Re-encoded to meet the spec of your video and embedded into your container.

btw: the dts core is always have always the same fps as the videofile from the dvd and the bd because fab copy 1:1 the fps from the source.
is is there nothing to do to meet the spec of the vob video.
you can simply mux the dts file in the container.

[calcu007]

A DVD created with only DTS would not play in all players; Therefor, it would not be considered compliant with the DVD standard.

Who said it? It will plays, but the user needs a audio system compatible with DTS , i.e, home theater. That dont means that will not play in all players

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/dvd7.htm

Read the section "DTS compatible"

or last paragraph of this

http://www.dvd-x-player.com/wp/?p=35

[moonie2001]

Great job moonie2001

thank you

my next tutorial coming soon

It will plays, but the user needs a audio system compatible with DTS , i.e, home theater. That dont means that will not play in all players

correct, but there a very cheap crap player on the market which having some problmens to playback the DTS sound (i just hear that)


i think this users disabling dts in the setup menu

[Complication]

I think some of you are missing the point. The specification allows for DTS as the only audio track but there is no requirement in the specification that players need to be able to decode a DTS track. On the other hand, all DVD players are required to be able to decode and down-convert AC3 5.1.

Why is this important? There are more DVD players in the USA hooked up to stereo output TVs (or mono) then there are players hooked up to multi-speaker audio systems. Think DVD players in the bedroom, kid's rooms, portable players, the family van, and even the odd Windows XP laptop with an old software player that didn't pay the fee to include DTS.

The point is that if DVDFab can create DVDs from Blu-ray then it needs to do so in a way that is compatible with most situations. Why not just use your purchased Blu-ray disc when you want the fantastic DTS or HD sound? The kids that you make the DVD for probably can't tell the difference between AC3 5.1 and DTS anyway. If you want a copy with excellent video and sound then use BD Copy to make the BD9 or BD5.