"Small" Picture

[whaleshark]

I've just finished ripping 'TANGLED' and although the screen size seems to be the normal 16:9 aspect ratio (Overall), it does not 'fill' the screen as normal. It seems to be about 50% of the normal size and I have to set my HDTV to 'Wide Zoom' to watch it in 'full size' - I hope I've described this properly? This happened also with a couple of other rips recently. My 'Test BD' is Gladiator' and that rips just fine with no aspect or size problems - Any suggestions for rectifying this would be welcome -- or is this a bug that may be addressed in newer versions of the programme?

FYI I rip to a local HD, then transfer to a NAS for streaming over my network to PS3 --- Watching the 'Tangled' BD rip on my desktop has the same 'size' problem

[90312]

The picture I've attached is what 720x480 looks like on an HD TV. If the NAS is passing it through as 'Original" that's what it will look like. The PS3 will scale it up, press the green triangle button and select the icon that looks like a box, you can select normal or zoom as you prefer.

[whaleshark]

Small Picture

Thanks to all for the responses - Regarding the logfiles, I re-ripped all three BD's (Tangled, Dorian Gray and Conviction) and the following are the extracts from the logfiles for these three movies - The method I am using is BD Ripper to PS3 profile with AV Codecs set to 'Software' - Rips are directly to the desktop HDD then copied to a separate NAS HDD

As a matter of interest, the BD of 'Conviction' which I had previously ripped a couple of days earlier and displayed on my HDTV as a 'Full' size picture has now, in this latest rip changed to 'small picture' --- The logfiles (copied below at the end of this reply) show the information for the first rip on 2nd April plus the latest rip which was done this morning 4th April --- Also, please note that I cancelled each operation prior to completion (copied about 30 minutes worth of each BD) due to time limitations - Hopefully the logfiles will have captured all relevant information?

WRT the green triangle on the PS3 and selection of normal or zoom from here - Using this option works fine but I've not had to do this before with other rips so my concern is --- What has changed to cause these 'smaller' pictures? I have 2 methods of getting the stream to the PS3 - One is the dedicated HDD NAS and the other is a free PS3 streamer direct from the desktop HDD - Both methods have the same problem --- Additionally, if the 'Preview' screen is selected during ripping the picture on this screen does not 'fill' the whole aspect as it did before --- It all sounds a bit complicated so I hope my attempts to explain are understandable

I will be ripping a couple of new BD releases tomorrow and any light shed on this little quirk would be useful

LOGFILES

DVDFab 8.0.8.5 (2011/04/04 09:57:46)

0m 01.06s: option dvd2dvd 0 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 07.41s: detected blu-ray
0m 07.41s: drive E
0m 07.41s: blu-ray type 1
0m 07.41s: volume label TANGLED
0m 17.97s: root 8CD81FF219295532_VOLUME_SET_ID:TANGLED:TANGLED:TAN GLED
0m 18.72s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
0m 19.57s: got discinfo
0m 19.74s: got bdmv
0m 19.74s: got agid 0
0m 19.76s: sent host cert chal
0m 19.76s: got drive cert chal
0m 19.76s: BEC 0
0m 19.76s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
0m 19.79s: got drive key
0m 20.10s: got host key signature
0m 20.10s: verified drive signature
0m 20.10s: verified host signature
0m 20.13s: sent host signature and key point
0m 20.13s: got bus key
0m 20.13s: got volume id
0m 20.13s: got volume id mac
0m 20.13s: volume id is correct
0m 20.13s: got vid
0m 20.18s: blu-ray 9627FF78AFB7B2FE27FAACF977C7A1B163A70149
0m 21.10s: D 9E223870
0m 21.12s: got vuk
0m 21.41s: got unit key 1
0m 52.18s: got extended bdinfo
0m 52.18s: opened blu-ray
2m 47.21s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


2m 47.21s: create config(5)
2m 47.21s: convert profile(ps3.default)
2m 47.21s: blu-ray playlist(800) angle(0) chapter(1->13)
2m 47.21s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1) stream(4608,PGS,4)
2m 47.23s: not set correct fourcc for video(28)
2m 47.23s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
2m 47.24s: subpicture preset(1), mode(0)
2m 47.26s: processing source(00005.m2ts)
2m 47.26s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
2m 48.32s: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(7512)
2m 50.35s: subpicture(4608) mode(0)
2m 50.35s: connect to sub render filter
3m 09.46s: ------ cancel all mobile work -------
4m 07.49s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


4m 07.49s: create config(5)
4m 07.49s: convert profile(ps3.default)
4m 07.49s: blu-ray playlist(800) angle(0) chapter(1->13)
4m 07.49s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1) stream(4608,PGS,4)
4m 09.55s: not set correct fourcc for video(28)
4m 09.55s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
4m 09.55s: subpicture preset(1), mode(0)
4m 09.58s: processing source(00005.m2ts)
4m 09.58s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
4m 10.61s: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(5524)
4m 12.64s: subpicture(4608) mode(0)
4m 12.64s: connect to sub render filter
4m 40.53s: processing source(00066.m2ts)
4m 58.81s: processing source(00067.m2ts)
8m 59.45s: processing source(00068.m2ts)
9m 57.06s: processing source(00069.m2ts)
19m 13.14s: processing source(00070.m2ts)
19m 43.25s: processing source(00071.m2ts)
37m 17.42s: processing source(00075.m2ts)
37m 40.56s: processing source(00076.m2ts)
38m 59.54s: processing source(00077.m2ts)
39m 27.92s: processing source(00078.m2ts)
39m 57.09s: processing source(00079.m2ts)
40m 28.06s: processing source(00080.m2ts)
40m 52.36s: ------ cancel all mobile work -------



41m 39.21s: detected blu-ray
41m 39.21s: drive E
41m 39.21s: blu-ray type 1
41m 39.21s: volume label DORIAN_GRAY
41m 41.21s: root 8CD8454018F4A5E1_VOLUME_SET_IDORIAN_GRAYORIAN_GRAYORIAN_GRAY
41m 41.32s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
41m 41.35s: got discinfo
41m 41.39s: got bdmv
41m 41.39s: got agid 0
41m 41.41s: sent host cert chal
41m 41.41s: got drive cert chal
41m 41.41s: BEC 0
41m 41.41s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
41m 41.46s: got drive key
41m 41.46s: got host key signature
41m 41.46s: verified drive signature
41m 41.46s: verified host signature
41m 41.49s: sent host signature and key point
41m 41.49s: got bus key
41m 41.49s: got volume id
41m 41.49s: got volume id mac
41m 41.49s: volume id is correct
41m 41.49s: got vid
41m 41.74s: blu-ray 201D85F7338ECF2A0D74AA5E4E36F2FD2C6025AE
41m 42.27s: D 37B1A5F4
41m 42.27s: got vuk
41m 42.27s: got unit key 1
41m 50.14s: got extended bdinfo
41m 50.14s: opened blu-ray
42m 13.00s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


42m 13.00s: create config(5)
42m 13.01s: convert profile(ps3.default)
42m 13.01s: blu-ray playlist(5) angle(0) chapter(1->13)
42m 13.01s: stream(4113,VC-1,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1) stream(4608,PGS,4)
42m 13.03s: not set correct fourcc for video(28)
42m 13.03s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
42m 13.03s: subpicture preset(1), mode(0)
42m 13.06s: processing source(00007.m2ts)
42m 13.06s: using software decoder(vc1 multi-thread)
42m 14.12s: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(5524)
42m 16.15s: subpicture(4608) mode(0)
42m 16.15s: connect to sub render filter
42m 23.59s: processing source(00008.m2ts)
87m 50.33s: ------ cancel all mobile work -------



DVDFab 8.0.8.5 (2011/04/04 11:31:02)

0m 00.74s: option dvd2dvd 0 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 04.61s: detected blu-ray
0m 04.63s: drive E
0m 04.63s: blu-ray type 1
0m 04.63s: volume label CONVICTION
0m 06.05s: root 8CD5952F6A145643_VOLUME_SET_ID:CONVICTION:CONVICTI ON:CONVICTION
0m 06.70s: aacs 1 bd+ 1
0m 11.87s: got discinfo
0m 12.02s: got bdmv
0m 12.02s: got agid 0
0m 12.04s: sent host cert chal
0m 12.05s: got drive cert chal
0m 12.05s: BEC 0
0m 12.05s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
0m 12.09s: got drive key
0m 12.32s: got host key signature
0m 12.32s: verified drive signature
0m 12.32s: verified host signature
0m 12.35s: sent host signature and key point
0m 12.35s: got bus key
0m 12.35s: got volume id
0m 12.35s: got volume id mac
0m 12.35s: volume id is correct
0m 12.35s: got vid
0m 12.41s: blu-ray 7875F9CE1BC124D04E9C65D5BC586203861E8804
0m 13.26s: D 29770380
0m 16.47s: got vuk
0m 16.47s: got fut
0m 16.70s: got unit key 7
0m 34.28s: got extended bdinfo
0m 34.28s: opened blu-ray
0m 45.50s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 45.50s: create config(5)
0m 45.50s: convert profile(ps3.default)
0m 45.50s: blu-ray playlist(800) angle(0) chapter(1->29)
0m 45.50s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1) stream(4608,PGS,4)
0m 47.51s: not set correct fourcc for video(28)
0m 47.53s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
0m 47.53s: subpicture preset(1), mode(0)
0m 47.56s: processing source(00800.m2ts)
0m 47.56s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
0m 48.59s: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(5524)
0m 50.62s: subpicture(4608) mode(0)
0m 50.62s: connect to sub render filter
22m 51.56s: ------ cancel all mobile work -------





DVDFab 8.0.8.5 (2011/04/02 12:37:40)

0m 01.80s: option dvd2dvd 0 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 08.09s: detected blu-ray
0m 08.09s: drive E
0m 08.09s: blu-ray type 1
0m 08.09s: volume label CONVICTION
0m 11.18s: root 8CD5952F6A145643_VOLUME_SET_ID:CONVICTION:CONVICTI ON:CONVICTION
0m 11.98s: aacs 1 bd+ 1
0m 17.22s: got discinfo
0m 17.39s: got bdmv
0m 17.39s: got agid 0
0m 17.41s: sent host cert chal
0m 17.41s: got drive cert chal
0m 17.41s: BEC 0
0m 17.41s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
0m 17.44s: got drive key
0m 17.69s: got host key signature
0m 17.69s: verified drive signature
0m 17.69s: verified host signature
0m 17.72s: sent host signature and key point
0m 17.72s: got bus key
0m 17.72s: got volume id
0m 17.72s: got volume id mac
0m 17.72s: volume id is correct
0m 17.72s: got vid
0m 17.78s: blu-ray 7875F9CE1BC124D04E9C65D5BC586203861E8804
0m 18.62s: D 29770380
0m 21.77s: got vuk
0m 21.77s: got fut
0m 21.98s: got unit key 7
0m 39.25s: got extended bdinfo
0m 39.25s: opened blu-ray
1m 17.90s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


1m 17.90s: create config(5)
1m 17.90s: convert profile(ps3.default)
1m 17.90s: blu-ray playlist(800) angle(0) chapter(1->29)
1m 17.90s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1) stream(4608,PGS,4)
1m 20.60s: not set correct fourcc for video(28)
1m 20.60s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
1m 20.63s: subpicture preset(1), mode(0)
1m 20.65s: processing source(00800.m2ts)
1m 20.65s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
1m 21.71s: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(5524)
1m 23.75s: subpicture(4608) mode(0)
1m 23.75s: connect to sub render filter
118m 59.91s:


------ finish mobile work ------

[90312]

Check your frame resolution on the next rip whaleshark, if 1920x1080 you can't it make small on the PS3.

[whaleshark]

Frame Resolution

Thanks for the suggestion - The only BD that I actually own is 'Gladiator' and I put this in to rip it with the 1920x1080 resolution. This resolution is not present in the 'edit' menu so I had to 'Add' it manually - The rip is good and the green triangle options for zoom and normal on the PS3 is no longer active as the ripped 1920x1080 resolution does fill the whole screen - I'll try this out tomorrow when I have the new releases and let you know what happens --- How come 1920x1080 is not included in the frame resolution choices?

[90312]

I don't do Blu-Ray at all, but I would have thought it would be there or maybe a "1080P" profile under PS3.

[whaleshark]

That 'Small Picture'

Well, I ripped the BD of TRON today to PS3/MP4 format and manually put in a 1920x1080 frame resolution - It's all worked out very nicely with none of the 'small' picture issues on the HDTV

Looking more closely, it seems to me that this has been a PS3 'upscaling' issue more than anything as previous rips of other BD titles have been done in 1920x800 format and have displayed okay on the HDTV, so maybe the PS3 was automatically upscaling without my knowledge - Maybe the latest PS3 update has changed all that - or maybe I have had dreaded 'finger trouble' and fiddled too much........

Don't you just hate it when things change without warning and without any tangible reason

Thanks for the responses anyway - Greatly appreciated

[90312]

Don't you just hate it when things change without warning and without any tangible reason

Yes, and Sony does it often!