DVDFab 9 problems with Windows XP

[Eddie13]

9.1.4.0 works with XP but very slowly

I'm delighted to find that the latest 9.1.4.0 version installs and runs on my XP computer, so the CUDA GPU fix worked! I have a NVIDIA Geforce 6200 card.

There is also a special patch that had to install (as notified by the 9.1.4.0 installer) because my processor does not have SSE4.2.

Unfortunately it runs very slowly and uses 100% of processor, making computer sluggish, so I had to lower priority. Something is not right yet...

For example I tested copy of a simple unencrypted unprotected single layer movie (4.7GB) and it takes about an hour simply to copy it from disk to hard drive folder. It should only take about 5 minutes at most. The maximum copy rate is about 1 MB/s which should be 20-30x faster. It's as if it were using the non-DMA speed of my IDE optical drives, but I reset them manually to DMA so that doesn't seem to be the cause.

[Frankster91]

It would be helpful to know what you have?

processor type, chipset, graphics (integrated and discrete)
motherboard, os version 32 or 64bit.

[Frankster91]

I would do like Martythebrit suggested and pull the card. Id uninstall the drivers but not reboot and then delete it through device manager and shut down and pull it out.

[Frankster91]

The XP box came with video graphics sharing the RAM memory, no separate video card. Somebody talked me into getting this Nvidia card a couple of years ago to try to speedup Firefox. The improvement was only slight, if any, and I was never sold on it. Firefox is still slow anyway. Maybe I'll jerk it out...(?)...but if DVDFab for XP was compiled only for recent high end graphics, I'm sunk anyway. This thing is 10 years old.

My card is an 7800GSOC and is pretty old as well but works great. So you have an Nforce chipset with integrated graphic and a discrete card?

[Frankster91]

I've never had an issue with it trying to reinstall automatically, at least without an option to cancel. Trying to remove them in Safe Mode didn't work?

Nvidia System Tools is an optional download, thats why I said if you have it but its not needed. It's mainly for people with Nforce chipsets but can be used with discrete graphics and offers some special tools. I don't think they even update it anymore..

I don't have XP64 bit, only my Win 7 and 8 boxes have the 64bit. My XP boxes are all 32bit.

I still think it's an issue with the Nvidia drivers. When I had my issue, I had two identical computer builds. Both had the same software, drivers, hardware, bio's and firmware versions. Fab would run on one and not the other. After doing all I stated in my earlier posts, it (Fab) worked and has been fine all the way through to the current release.

Have you thought about using a driver cleaner to maybe help get those drivers off? At least then we could rule out the Nvidia driver issue.

[martythebrit]

I'd pull the card and try again, if nothing else it'll rule out the NVidia graphics.

[Eddie13]

The XP box came with video graphics sharing the RAM memory, no separate video card. Somebody talked me into getting this Nvidia card a couple of years ago to try to speedup Firefox. The improvement was only slight, if any, and I was never sold on it. Firefox is still slow anyway. Maybe I'll jerk it out...(?)...but if DVDFab for XP was compiled only for recent high end graphics, I'm sunk anyway. This thing is 10 years old.

[martythebrit]

Eddie13; Does your XP box have built-in graphics too or just the NVidia card?

[martythebrit]

I only ever use the Intel HD graphics, my GeForce was sold on eBay months ago. The virtual machine just has standard SVGA graphics. Can't get much more lowly than that!

[90312]

I'm of the opinion that it is the graphics card. If you have a lame one like mine in that laptop it will require Windows 7 and DirectX 11, if you have a good modern graphics card that will support the API used to program the GUI in XP then you are good to go.

[Eddie13]

A clean reinstall of the op system isn't needed at this point. Everything's working OK on this XP box except DVDFab past the 9063 version. Whatever it is, I'm not unique, because others have reported the same problem. It seems that some people can run it OK, but some can't, root cause still a mystery...

I went through the cleanup process outlined above as well as possible but got the same exception error. The only difference was that after installing DVDFab9106 I got to the reboot prompt this time. But the software won't run, just produces the exception error.

Now the only thing remaining to try is install .NET 2.0+ and Silverlight, probably .NET first. I don't really want it but there seems no other way to rule it out as a necessity. Time will tell, I guess. It is taking a *lot* of time to try to troubleshoot this...

[90312]

What graphics are you using Marty? Your Intel graphics or the card?

[martythebrit]

I also have Windows XP x64 running in a virtual machine. I fired it up this morning and DVDFab 9.1.0.6 installed and ran without issue.

You might want to image your system and try a clean install.

[Eddie13]

I've spent all this time trying to uninstall the Nvidia drivers, like you say, but it doesn't work that way...

Like I said, it does no good to uninstall the Nvidia drivers because they reinstall automatically, apparently a plug-n-play process, within a few minutes. The detected new hardware wizard icon pops up in systray then it does its thing, no way to stop it. Then it wants the computer to be rebooted to complete the process.

However I was able to do a reinstall of the latest recommended drivers using the custom "clean" install option with antivirus turned off. That's the best I can do, apparently, in lieu of some way to disable the plug-n-play process temporarily(?). It would be too much trouble to remove the Nvidia board from the computer physically just for this purpose.

That still leaves me with an unknown, because I don't understand the terminology. You say to also uninstall the "Nvidia System tool" but there's nothing with that title, insofar as I'm aware. Here's a graphic of the 3 Nvidia items in my Add or Remove Programs list. Is one of them the "Nvidia System tool"?

[Frankster91]

How do I uninstall my NVIDIA display drivers?

Driver files should always be uninstalled before updating to newer drivers or when removing an older NVIDIA card and replacing it with a newer card. To uninstall your current NVIDIA Display Drivers from your system, follow these steps:

1) Go into your Control Panel
2) Double-click the Add/Remove Programs icon
3) Select the NVIDIA Windows Display Drivers from the list of programs.
4) Click Change/Remove or Add/Remove button.
5) Confirm with Windows that you wish to continue with the uninstall

Note: A prompt appears asking whether you want to delete all of the saved
nView profiles.
If you click Yes, all of the nView software and all of your saved
profiles will be deleted.
If you click No, the nView software is removed, but the profile files
are saved in the Windows\nView directory on your hard disk. If you take advantage of the nView profiles, you may wish to keep your custom nView profiles.

Once the driver files have uninstalled, Windows will request that you restart your computer to complete the uninstallation.