Motion skip

[denret]

On many of my titles using Blu ray copy, I get a motion skip randomly through
the course of the movie. This happens on a couple of different stand-alone Bluray players.

Has anyone had similar issues. Is it something I'm doing wrong in my process???

[cici Jia]

Hi

Please post your burn log and internal log file here.

The default location is:
For Win7 C:\Users\User Name\My Documents\DVDFab\Log
or Vista C:\Users\User Name\Documents\DVDFab\Log
or for XP C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\My Documents\DVDFab\Log

[r__]

I got same problem occasionally. I think problem is related to some Blu-ray having two or more different lenght versions in them (like theatrical, extended and directors cut versions). First I thought it must be something I did wrong or it was media problem but now that I think of this, it only happens with movies having different versions of the movie AND when I back up the longer version using the movie only option.

I just last night did The Other Guys selecting the Extended version. There were something like 10 or so times during the movie where it suddenly skipped a little or picture was "paused" but time did run and it resumed back to movie. I think those were places were additional material of extended version was supposed to be added. I was using the latest DVDFab 8.0.8.5 for this movie.

Earlier I had the same issue with Knight and Day and Eat Pray Love. Those I also did selecting the longer version and movie only option.

I never use compression so it is not the issue here. The last one was with Cinavia but other two not.

I suspect problem is that DVDFab has some problem with Seamless branching they use often in blu-ray containing several versions of the same movie. Just like these all examples I listed here do.

Could you please look in to this problem and try to find solution because it is annoying problem and very hard to see until you actually watch the whole movie because it only happens in certain places?

I attached my logs from The Other Guys so you can see there are no errors listed there.

2011-03-29 18:43:06    ----     ******************** Log session stop xxxxxxxx 18:43:06.368 PID 2628********************
2011-03-29 18:38:44    Info     WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2011-03-29 18:38:44    Info     Finalization Time 00:00:00 - Total completion time 00:11:15
2011-03-29 18:38:44    Info     Write finished in 00:11:15 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 35,53
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Lead-in burning time (mS) 13184
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Write started 11460160 sectors to write
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Available write speed: 8x ,4x ,2x 
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Media ID: PHILIP-R04-00
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Media type: BD-R Sequential
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     PIO Mode
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Scanned files #154, folder #17 - total size 23468192156 b. (21,86 Gb.)
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Inserted media type : Hard Disc
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Write started
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R, Blu Ray-R Seq., Blu Ray-R Rnd., Blu Ray-RE
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     New Drive selected : 0:2:0 - HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 [G] (Ide)
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Scanned files #154, folder #17 - total size 23468192156 b. (21,86 Gb.)
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Inserted media type : Hard Disc
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     .fso Image file will contain only the filesystem entries.
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Write started
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     New ISO path selected : C:\Users\xxxxxxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp\268d51\min.fso
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Writable disc BD-R Sequential inserted. Ready to write
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Parsing disc ...
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R, Blu Ray-R Seq., Blu Ray-R Rnd., Blu Ray-RE
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     New Drive selected : 0:2:0 - HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 [G] (Ide)
2011-03-29 18:29:59    Info     Disc ejected by user.
2011-03-29 17:59:24    Info     Disc (BD-ROM) not empty.
2011-03-29 17:59:24    Info     Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R, Blu Ray-R Seq., Blu Ray-R Rnd., Blu Ray-RE
2011-03-29 17:59:24    Info     Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2011-03-29 17:59:24    Info     New Drive selected : 0:2:0 - HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 [G] (Ide)
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     Current Drive selected : 0:2:0 - HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.00 [G] (Ide)
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     Using Advanced SPTI interface
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     System default language : xxxxxx
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     User default language : xxxxxxx
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     DLL Version : 4.0.15.480
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     DLL : C:\Program Files (x86)\DVDFab 8\vso_hwe.dll
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     Version : 8, 0, 8, 5
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     ExeName : C:\Program Files (x86)\DVDFab 8\DVDFab.exe
2011-03-29 17:55:02    Info     OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)
2011-03-29 17:55:02    ----     ******************** Log session start xxxxxxxx 17:55:02.784 PID 2628********************
 
 
 
 
DVDFab 8.0.8.5 (2011/03/29 17:52:56)
 
0m 00.48s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 02.35s: detected blu-ray
0m 02.35s: drive G
0m 02.35s: blu-ray type 1
0m 02.35s: volume label THE_OTHER_GUYS
0m 03.07s: root 8CD85E049DDCB294_VOLUME_SET_ID:THE_OTHER_GUYS:THE_OTHER_GUYS:THE_OTHER_GUYS
0m 04.02s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
0m 05.24s: got discinfo
0m 05.46s: got bdmv
0m 05.47s: got agid 0
0m 05.49s: sent host cert chal
0m 05.49s: got drive cert chal
0m 05.49s: BEC 0
0m 05.49s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
0m 05.52s: got drive key
0m 05.77s: got host key signature
0m 05.77s: verified drive signature
0m 05.77s: verified host signature
0m 05.80s: sent host signature and key point
0m 05.80s: got bus key
0m 05.81s: got volume id
0m 05.81s: got volume id mac
0m 05.81s: volume id is correct
0m 05.81s: got vid
0m 05.85s: blu-ray C29C660F1DB7120058CEC93158E6CFC6A37CAD4A
0m 06.77s: D 17C9C487
0m 06.77s: detected cinavia
0m 06.77s: got vuk
0m 07.03s: got unit key 4
0m 40.52s: got extended bdinfo
0m 40.52s: opened blu-ray
4m 22.62s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
4m 22.62s: Source: G:\BDMV\
4m 22.64s: Playlist: 2
4m 22.64s: Chapters: 1 -> 16
4m 22.64s: TotalSize: 28682 MB
4m 22.64s: SourceSize: 28682 MB
4m 22.64s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
4m 22.64s: ProtectedDisc: 1
4m 22.64s: OutputTarget: BD50
4m 22.65s: compress begin: Blu-ray groups clips(00138.m2ts,00168.m2ts,00140.m2ts,00169.m2ts,00142.m2ts,00170.m2ts,00144.m2ts,00171.m2ts,00146.m2ts,00172.m2ts,00148.m2ts,00173.m2ts,00150.m2ts,00174.m2ts,00152.m2ts,00175.m2ts,00154.m2ts,00176.m2ts,00156.m2ts,00177.m2ts,00158.m2ts,00178.m2ts,00160.m2ts,00179.m2ts,00162.m2ts,00180.m2ts,00164.m2ts,00181.m2ts), playtime(6974956 ms), size(28682 MB)
4m 22.65s: processing source(00138.m2ts)
6m 56.00s: processing source(00168.m2ts)
7m 05.00s: processing source(00140.m2ts)
8m 41.63s: processing source(00169.m2ts)
8m 50.99s: processing source(00142.m2ts)
11m 34.98s: processing source(00170.m2ts)
11m 47.46s: processing source(00144.m2ts)
12m 07.43s: processing source(00171.m2ts)
12m 18.64s: processing source(00146.m2ts)
12m 45.38s: processing source(00172.m2ts)
12m 55.87s: processing source(00148.m2ts)
13m 55.91s: processing source(00173.m2ts)
14m 04.87s: processing source(00150.m2ts)
16m 05.58s: processing source(00174.m2ts)
16m 30.73s: processing source(00152.m2ts)
16m 54.19s: processing source(00175.m2ts)
17m 01.24s: processing source(00154.m2ts)
17m 26.59s: processing source(00176.m2ts)
17m 32.52s: processing source(00156.m2ts)
19m 16.35s: processing source(00177.m2ts)
19m 27.09s: processing source(00158.m2ts)
19m 57.88s: processing source(00178.m2ts)
20m 05.65s: processing source(00160.m2ts)
20m 30.27s: processing source(00179.m2ts)
20m 34.91s: processing source(00162.m2ts)
21m 15.76s: processing source(00180.m2ts)
21m 20.22s: processing source(00164.m2ts)
21m 34.21s: processing source(00181.m2ts)
35m 09.89s: detected blu-ray
35m 09.89s: drive G
35m 09.89s: blu-ray type 0
35m 09.89s: volume label 
35m 10.58s: detected blu-ray
35m 10.58s: drive G
35m 10.58s: blu-ray type 0
35m 10.58s: volume label 
35m 12.62s: detected blu-ray
35m 12.62s: iso C:\Users\xxxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp\268d51\min.fso
35m 12.62s: blu-ray type 2
35m 12.62s: volume label BD_VOLUME
35m 12.62s: root 3E7D7B84________BD_VOLUME:BD_VOLUME:BD_VOLUME:BD_VOLUME
35m 12.62s: Writer drive: G
35m 12.64s: Vendor: HL-DT-ST
35m 12.64s: Product: BD-RE BH10LS30
35m 12.64s: Revision: 1.00
35m 12.64s: Vendor specific: 
35m 12.64s: AACS version: 1
35m 12.64s: Number of concurrent AGIDs: 1
35m 12.64s: Supports bus encryption: NO
35m 12.64s: Supports binding nonce generation: YES
35m 12.64s: got agid 0
35m 12.65s: sent host cert chal
35m 12.65s: got drive cert chal
35m 12.65s: BEC 0
35m 12.65s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
35m 12.69s: got drive key
35m 12.69s: got host key signature
35m 12.70s: verified drive signature
35m 12.70s: verified host signature
35m 12.73s: sent host signature and key point
35m 12.73s: got bus key
35m 12.73s: Disc is BD-R, man=0x003
35m 12.73s: got agid 0
35m 12.75s: sent host cert chal
35m 12.75s: got drive cert chal
35m 12.75s: BEC 0
35m 12.75s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
35m 12.78s: got drive key
35m 12.80s: got host key signature
35m 12.80s: verified drive signature
35m 12.80s: verified host signature
35m 12.83s: sent host signature and key point
35m 12.83s: got bus key
35m 12.89s: BN 1564
35m 12.89s: got agid 0
35m 12.90s: sent host cert chal
35m 12.92s: got drive cert chal
35m 12.92s: BEC 0
35m 12.92s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
35m 12.95s: got drive key
35m 12.95s: got host key signature
35m 12.95s: verified drive signature
35m 12.95s: verified host signature
35m 12.98s: sent host signature and key point
35m 12.98s: got bus key
35m 12.98s: BN 2082D5BF2909CF394E9EE6B15ED397D4
35m 13.12s: blu-ray C29C660F1DB7120058CEC93158E6CFC6A37CAD4A
35m 13.61s: D 7E330048
49m 11.44s: root 3E7D7B4E________THE_OTHER_GUYS:THE_OTHER_GUYS:THE_OTHER_GUYS:THE_OTHER_GUYS
49m 11.58s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
49m 11.92s: got discinfo
49m 12.02s: got bdmv
49m 12.03s: got agid 0
49m 12.05s: sent host cert chal
49m 12.06s: got drive cert chal
49m 12.06s: BEC 0
49m 12.06s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0116
49m 12.11s: got drive key
49m 12.11s: got host key signature
49m 12.11s: verified drive signature
49m 12.11s: verified host signature
49m 12.14s: sent host signature and key point
49m 12.14s: got bus key
49m 12.22s: got binding nonce
49m 12.22s: got vid
49m 12.24s: blu-ray 51E42EB1037070C7F76C078B7F95595C0ADDF5B7
49m 12.91s: D 7E330048
49m 12.91s: got vuk
49m 12.99s: got unit key 28
49m 20.25s: got extended bdinfo
49m 20.25s: opened blu-ray

[CBR929]

Hi r__
Your drive is in PIO mode, Open Fab Click the Green √ top right > General > make sure Check for DMA Automatically is Checked and also Click the Reset DMA to the right click OK and restart Fab.

2011-03-29 18:38:44 Info Write finished in 00:11:15 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 35,53
2011-03-29 18:29:59 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2011-03-29 18:29:59 Info Available write speed: 8x ,4x ,2x

You may also have better results using ImgBurn as your burn engine, it is "free" and you will find it here along with a tutorial on setting it up with Fab http://forum.dvdfab.com/showthread.php?t=33 ,remember to set up the AWS in ImgBurn ans set you burn speeds to 1/2 the rated speed of the media you are using.
CBR929

[bustervegas]

pausing and skipping

Hi Guys
Wanted to add my 2 cents. Same thing happened with tangled backup. Pauses and skips in certain parts of the disk. Tried many different methods. Used vso and then imagburn. Copied to hdd and to the disk. Each one had the pauses and skips in the same places. I did not have the dma issue last user mentioned, and used various burn methods. Problems did not exist on any prior fab downloads, only for the most recent update. Thanks for your help. Buster

[mb_dude]

There is a problem with the latest version 8.0.8.5
Had problem with both DESPICABLE ME and COP OUT
Both there has lots of m2ts files.
Disks with single m2ts works OK.

Redid both disk with version 6.2.1.8 (the most stable version) with no problem

[CBR929]

Hi Guys
Wanted to add my 2 cents. Same thing happened with tangled backup. Pauses and skips in certain parts of the disk. Tried many different methods. Used vso and then imagburn. Copied to hdd and to the disk. Each one had the pauses and skips in the same places. I did not have the dma issue last user mentioned, and used various burn methods. Problems did not exist on any prior fab downloads, only for the most recent update. Thanks for your help. Buster

Hi bustervegas
Maybe if you post your logs we may be able to help.

Please post your logs the default location is:
For Win7 C:\Users\User Name\My Documents\DVDFab\Log
or Vista C:\Users\User Name\Documents\DVDFab\Log
or for XP C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\My Documents\DVDFab\Log
Please use attachment button and attach your most recent, Internal and Burn log(s) and post right here.

Did you also view the rip to the HDD, and did it also have the same pauses or just the burned disc???
CBR929

[r__]

Hi r__
Your drive is in PIO mode, Open Fab Click the Green √ top right > General > make sure Check for DMA Automatically is Checked and also Click the Reset DMA to the right click OK and restart Fab.

2011-03-29 18:38:44 Info Write finished in 00:11:15 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 35,53
2011-03-29 18:29:59 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2011-03-29 18:29:59 Info Available write speed: 8x ,4x ,2x

You may also have better results using ImgBurn as your burn engine, it is "free" and you will find it here along with a tutorial on setting it up with Fab http://forum.dvdfab.com/showthread.php?t=33 ,remember to set up the AWS in ImgBurn ans set you burn speeds to 1/2 the rated speed of the media you are using.
CBR929

Pio mode reported is just a bug in the DVDFab when using VSO engine. It is running DMA in reality. Also this is not a burning problem, I've used IMGburn with same results. Problem obviously has something to do with seamless branching. It only occurs with such titles.

[bustervegas]

pauses and skips

Hi CBR 229
Thank you as well as others for your help with fab products.
I did copy both ways-to dvd and then to hdd with same result.
I will be happy to send burn logs but will be later since I am on another computer at work. I do want to observe forum rules but thought there was a thread explaining how to play the hdd now with cyberlink power dvd. Maybe not. Need to find out how to play on computer from hdd. I thought of that but that is why I did both to hdd with imgburn and vso and also to disk with both. Same pauses and skips. Saw that others had similar or same problem and thought it might not be user error as many times it is.
Buster

[regnad kcin]

I suspect problem is that DVDFab has some problem with Seamless branching they use often in blu-ray containing several versions of the same movie. Just like these all examples I listed here do.

I suspect the same although the cause remains a tad murky.
I'm guessing that this behavior is not reproduced when played back from the hdd files.

I have almost all my BD discs packed up for my move, but let me rummage a bit and see what I come up with.
I do have Knight ans Day and several others on various hdds.
I've never seen this behavior, but I watch everything via a media player and hdds.
I've never burned a BD disc in my life.

Need to find out how to play on computer from hdd. I thought of that but that is why I did both to hdd with imgburn and vso and also to disk with both. Same pauses and skips. Saw that others had similar or same problem and thought it might not be user error as many times it is.
Buster

Cyberlink is not the best choice and is a PITA...sorry, JMO
Please playback your hdd files with Media Player Classic.
It's free and easy to use...very intuitive.

However, if any of the files are .ISO, you must mount these on a virtual drive in order to play.
DVDFab Virtual Drive is an obvious choice and still free.

Here's a link for Media Player Classic:

http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

[0brian]

I also had problems with movies freezing up such as Jackass 3,Tangled. Have found out that if you go back to dvdfab version 8.0.7.3 no freezing problems with movies. Here is link for older versions. www.oldapps.com/dvdfab.php

[RushingWind]

Seamless branching problem with blu-rays

I agree with these comments. I recently tried backing up Ratatouille and Toy Story 3 on blu-ray with version 8085 - main movie only. Both these disks are seamless branching where there are numerous m2ts files and there is no compression necessary since the movie will fit on a 25GB disk. There are several places on the movie where it will skip anywhere from a few seconds to over a minute. However, non-seamless branching movies copy with no problems.

After perusing this forum, others stated the same problem with movies that are seamless branching and they suggested going back to version 8073. I tried that as an experiment and the backups played fine with no problems at all. Now, I'm reluctant to update to a new version until this bug is fixed.

Is Mr. Fengtao or his team aware of this problem? As far as I can see, there has been no official announcement regarding this particular problem. It would be nice to hear some encouraging words from someone in charge. I love this product and purchased a lifetime Blu-ray license. I've been watching DVDFAB evolve over the past few years and really appreciate all the work that has gone into it.