Slow backup to hard drive

[athlon700]

I have run onto this b 4. I bought some blu ray on ebay 25 gig. they were 9.95 for 10 which was reasonable. when I compressed to 25 gig and wrote to disk it would say that it was a dual layer disk. I called the guy I bought them from and he told me that the company that made them bar coded them as dl when they wernt so they dumped about 10,000 disks cheap. I bought 100 of them and have gone through about half and have had no problems. just dont try to use them as dl, about half way through the burn you will get an error and it will quit. they are optical quantum bd-r inkjet writable $9.95 with free shipping.

[Hawk]

Hawk why you draggin AMD down I know most prefer Intel for video encoding but seriously I have backed up many BD's in an hour or less under the BD50. Thats with my AMD Phenom II Black Edition X4 955 3.2ghz processor with no OCing it and 4gb of ram and a Geforce 210 graphics card.

But seriously Crazyhorse update to a quad or hex core and you will see the difference.

Intel processor support SSE 4.2 instructions set which greatly aid in encoding.

[unknownbluray]

Hawk why you draggin AMD down I know most prefer Intel for video encoding but seriously I have backed up many BD's in an hour or less under the BD50. Thats with my AMD Phenom II Black Edition X4 955 3.2ghz processor with no OCing it and 4gb of ram and a Geforce 210 graphics card.

But seriously Crazyhorse update to a quad or hex core and you will see the difference.

[unknownbluray]

Diablozoe it is OQ that gives that message. Everytime I insert one I get it, i even get it with Vinpower ones. never got it with a standard BD from verbatim but when I use the LTH's I do.

[DiabloZoe]

No It's not an Optical Quantum disc, can't seem to get them in the UK.
Is the BDR a 25fb DL or a 50gb? I have done a quick search and can't find any 25gb DL BDR's.
I'm not worried about the pop up, what I'm asking really is can a BDR25gb be dual layer, are they made this way or have I stumbled upon a cheap supply of 50gb BDR's.
I am findining it strange that I could burn a 24gb movie to a disc and it was only using one layer when there were 2. If there's 2 layers would that make it 2 layers of 25gb and so in actual fact be a 50gb BDR ?

No 25GB are single layer and 50GB are dual layer and BDXL are 100GB triple and 128GB quad layer. The pop up is saying that you are putting in a 50GB disc when you only need a 25GB. I asked about the OQ disc because I used them before and got the same error message. I have not received it since going to TDK. Its a weird issue and I was looking for a pattern that it might just be the media. I don't know if its a bug or what.

[crazyhorse]

No It's not an Optical Quantum disc, can't seem to get them in the UK.
Is the BDR a 25fb DL or a 50gb? I have done a quick search and can't find any 25gb DL BDR's.
I'm not worried about the pop up, what I'm asking really is can a BDR25gb be dual layer, are they made this way or have I stumbled upon a cheap supply of 50gb BDR's.
I am findining it strange that I could burn a 24gb movie to a disc and it was only using one layer when there were 2. If there's 2 layers would that make it 2 layers of 25gb and so in actual fact be a 50gb BDR ?

[DiabloZoe]

Ok.
I get the message now guys, thank you to all who have helped me, especially Zoe who must think I'm a nutcase
As I said the first compression I did took roughly 8 hours. But, I did notice one thing. A little prompt box came up when I went to write the data to the BDR. It said something like (can't remember exatcly!) : This disc is dual layer. Write single layer to disc?
I clicked yes because it was my first test burn....It burnt fine in 28 minutes.
Does this mean the blank bdr was 50gb?? The pack is labelled as BD-R 4X 25GB. There is nothing on the discs themselves because they are printable media.

No problem glad to help as other members on the board have done for me!! The pop up you saw was saying that you put in a DL disc when only a SL disc was needed. Are you using Optical Quantum media? Also when you see that pop up don't worry it will burn fine. The only thing that takes time in the whole process is compressing! I always do the same thing main movie no compressing because I write to 50GB BDRE disc's so the copying time to the HDD is always the same and the writing at 2x is always the same its about an 1hr and 30min start to finish for me.

[crazyhorse]

Ok.
I get the message now guys, thank you to all who have helped me, especially Zoe who must think I'm a nutcase
As I said the first compression I did took roughly 8 hours. But, I did notice one thing. A little prompt box came up when I went to write the data to the BDR. It said something like (can't remember exatcly!) : This disc is dual layer. Write single layer to disc?
I clicked yes because it was my first test burn....It burnt fine in 28 minutes.
Does this mean the blank bdr was 50gb?? The pack is labelled as BD-R 4X 25GB. There is nothing on the discs themselves because they are printable media.

[W&B]

Hawk is actually correct, if writing dvds and your drive is using dma and not pio then there won't be any cpu bottleneck but your drives themselves is the bottleneck. Can't compare dvd to bluray as far as performance because both use different compression engines. If compressing blurays and your not satisfied with the speeds you'll need to pony up and get a faster cpu and all that goes with it.

[Hawk]

i have never had a bottleneck with this CPU on anything I do or did. I Could write and rip 3 DVD-r DL's at the same time and in the backgounrd I had other programs running with no speed affects including DVD Shrink.
As for getting another processor, that would mean another motherboard, a full XP indtsllstion and reinstalling all of my software. I am not prepared to go through all that time and expense just so I can backup/burn a Blu Ray or 20

Shrinking blu-ray is more demanding than shrinking dvd. it doesn't matter if you were doing three dvd or ten at the same time. The fact remain that processing blu-ray need more processing power than dvd.

[SuperFist]

i have never had a bottleneck with this CPU on anything I do or did. I Could write and rip 3 DVD-r DL's at the same time and in the backgounrd I had other programs running with no speed affects including DVD Shrink.
As for getting another processor, that would mean another motherboard, a full XP indtsllstion and reinstalling all of my software. I am not prepared to go through all that time and expense just so I can backup/burn a Blu Ray or 20

It's inevitable, my friend. I just bit the bullet earlier this year as you can see my PC rig breakdown in my signature. It is a must when it comes to video copying/transcoding as the incremental speed boosts are worth the price in my opinion.

[crazyhorse]

Crazyhorse processor would be considered bottle neck. AMD 4800+ Dual Core CPU simply won't cut it. Consider investing in quad or six core. Also if you gone run on software instead of cuda and ati stream. Going with intel is better. As intel processor support instructions which will greatly benefit encoder.

i have never had a bottleneck with this CPU on anything I do or did. I Could write and rip 3 DVD-r DL's at the same time and in the backgounrd I had other programs running with no speed affects including DVD Shrink.
As for getting another processor, that would mean another motherboard, a full XP indtsllstion and reinstalling all of my software. I am not prepared to go through all that time and expense just so I can backup/burn a Blu Ray or 20

[crazyhorse]

Not sure what you mean? My 2 tb drive is partitioned in 500gb drives so I have my E partition named DvdFab and that's were I copy all my movies to. It does not matter what you name them. Also you are gonna have to take your rig into consideration! I think you said you had a dual core? Compressing down 50gb to 25gb is gonna take some time! There are a lot of factors I always do the same thing movie only to my HDD and the time to copy is always the same! I have never compressed a 50gh movie to 25gb because I think it's a waste if you have a high end system but that's me! Please post all of your logs so we can take a look and see if we can figure this out for you!

I've found the logs :

[Hawk]

Crazyhorse processor would be considered bottle neck. AMD 4800+ Dual Core CPU simply won't cut it. Consider investing in quad or six core. Also if you gone run on software instead of cuda and ati stream. Going with intel is better. As intel processor support instructions which will greatly benefit encoder.

[DiabloZoe]

Ok, I wrote it to HDD (I was already using a seperate partition anyway). Set my source and target as you said and compression to fit a 25gb BDR. Started it and the time to complete just went up and up within 30 seconds it was going to take 5 hours so I cancelled it.
I took the precaution of giving my target a different name, (original name ICON70184) and made the target in the same partition ICONComp. Is this correct or should I let it work on itself i.e. ICON70184 (Source) to target (ICON70184) ?

Not sure what you mean? My 2 tb drive is partitioned in 500gb drives so I have my E partition named DvdFab and that's were I copy all my movies to. It does not matter what you name them. Also you are gonna have to take your rig into consideration! I think you said you had a dual core? Compressing down 50gb to 25gb is gonna take some time! There are a lot of factors I always do the same thing movie only to my HDD and the time to copy is always the same! I have never compressed a 50gh movie to 25gb because I think it's a waste if you have a high end system but that's me! Please post all of your logs so we can take a look and see if we can figure this out for you!