Copying BDAV blu-ray discs

[solrac42]

I recently downloaded and tested the 8196 Qt version of DVDFab to see if it would backup my BDAV blu-ray discs created on my Panasonic blu-ray recorder.

The Panasonic encrypts the programs using AACS to your own discs, but I wanted to backup these to ISO files on my PC and then reuse the BD-RE discs over and over again to save buying new blu-ray media.

To my surprise it did actually decrypt the programs, but only using file mode, full disc mode and clone mode did not work, and previous versions I tried did not even recognize the BDAV format.

Now the problem:
I have transferred some HD programs to a 25GB BD-RE disc, backed them up using 8196 Qt and they play fine in VLC media player, the only problem is that no audio track was detected and so I got silent movies. I used tsMuxeR on the decryped files and sure enough there was no audio stream in there.

Hopefully this will be fixed in the next release.

[terry5]

Hi solrac42，
DVDFab for BDAV just supports BD Copy Main movie, BD ripper and BD to DVD. Do not support BD Copy Full Disc and Clone yet.
What do you mean about the HD Programs? Is it that a BD movie contains DTS-HD,DTS-HD Master or AC3 True HD audio track? More info are needed.
What's more, please post the internal log. Thanks.

[solrac42]

copying BDAV blu-ray discs

Hi terry5,

The HD programs I refer to are movies I have recorded onto my Panasonic blu-ray recorder and then used its copy to BD media disc feature, these discs are automatically encrypted by the recorder even if the content is a home made movie.

I noticed that when using Main movie mode no audio is shown on the panel on the right, so there is nothing to select.


Below is the log of a single movie decryped by 8196 Qt.

DVDFab 8.1.9.6 (2012/07/25 16:42:54)

0m 01.04s: GPUAccelerate: 28729
0m 01.04s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.04s: Support coreavc decode: 1
0m 01.04s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT : 4.0 : 1.1
0m 01.04s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.13s: Load config successful.
0m 01.27s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 04.08s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 04.08s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 04.08s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 04.74s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 04.74s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 04.92s: dvd2mobile have 29 elements.
0m 05.91s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 05.94s: blu-ray2mobile have 18 elements.
0m 06.55s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 06.75s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 06.78s: file2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 07.75s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 07.76s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 08.22s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 14.74s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 14.82s: StartNotify successful.
0m 14.82s: opening drive D
0m 14.82s: got media type 17
0m 15.25s: got max lba 11826175
0m 16.13s: type Blu-ray BDAV
0m 16.13s: volume label DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER
0m 16.19s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
0m 16.52s: got discinfo
0m 16.64s: got bdmv
0m 16.66s: Vendor: HL-DT-ST
0m 16.66s: Product: BD-RE BH10LS30
0m 16.66s: Revision: 1.00
0m 16.66s: Vendor specific:
0m 16.66s: AACS version: 1
0m 16.66s: Number of concurrent AGIDs: 1
0m 16.66s: Supports bus encryption: NO
0m 16.66s: Supports binding nonce generation: YES
0m 16.66s: Supports Hybrid discs: NO
0m 16.66s: got agid 0
0m 16.67s: sent host cert chal
0m 16.67s: got drive cert chal
0m 16.67s: BEC 0
0m 16.67s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0074
0m 16.71s: got drive key
0m 17.28s: got host key signature
0m 17.28s: verified drive signature
0m 17.28s: verified host signature
0m 17.31s: sent host signature and key point
0m 17.31s: got bus key
0m 17.33s: got agid 0
0m 17.35s: sent host cert chal
0m 17.35s: got drive cert chal
0m 17.35s: BEC 0
0m 17.35s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0074
0m 17.38s: got drive key
0m 17.38s: got host key signature
0m 17.39s: verified drive signature
0m 17.39s: verified host signature
0m 17.42s: sent host signature and key point
0m 17.42s: got bus key
0m 17.42s: BN 16800
0m 17.50s: got binding nonce
0m 17.50s: got vid
0m 17.50s: blu-ray 8D6070576CB7FBCB32DBE9BBDC36FBB485B2F354
0m 19.83s: D 047DA774
0m 19.83s: got vuk
0m 19.83s: got unit key 1
0m 20.12s: got extended bdinfo
0m 20.12s: opened blu-ray
0m 30.66s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
0m 30.66s: Source: D:/BDAV/
0m 30.66s: Playlist: 2
0m 30.66s: Chapters: 1 -> 9
0m 30.66s: TotalSize: 2920 MB
0m 30.66s: SourceSize: 2920 MB
0m 30.66s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
0m 30.66s: CompressToAC3: 0
0m 30.66s: OutputDisc: BDMV
0m 30.66s: OutputTarget: BD50
0m 30.66s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
0m 30.66s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
0m 30.66s: info: streams(6601.1)
0m 30.66s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00001.m2ts]]])
0m 30.69s: info: processing source(00001.m2ts)

[fengtao]

Hi solrac42,

Could you please send a sample .rpls and .clpi files on the BDAV disc to fengtao(at)dvdfab.com?

You need replace (at) with @.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[solrac42]

Hi solrac42,

Could you please send a sample .rpls and .clpi files on the BDAV disc to fengtao(at)dvdfab.com?

You need replace (at) with @.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

Done. sent to fengtao@dvdfab.com

[fengtao]

Thank you very much!

[phil22]

I too have the same problem when attempting to copy blu-ray discs recorded on a Panasonic Blu-ray recorder. I have downloded each new release of DVDFab Blu-ray copy from 8200Qt through 8215Qt. All leave me with an output blu-ray disc that cannot be played back on my Panasonic Blu-ray recorder, my Sony Blu-ray player, nor on my PC via Cyberlink PowerDVD 9 Ultra. PowerDVD says that my disk is empty, even though Windows File Manager shows, what appears to be, a normal file structure.
I have also download 9006Beta. Although I like the new interface, I am left with an output disk upon which even Windows File Manager cannot find any files.
Help please.

[Wilson.Wang]

Hi, phil22

Please download the latest build 8128 and have a try!
1. Copy to HD first by DVDFab.
2. Burn the output file to blank disc by ImgBurn.

Wilson

[phil22]

Should that be version 8218 rather than 8128?

[Wilson.Wang]

Yes, should be 8218.

[phil22]

Have no sound on burned disc with 8.2.1.8.
Have also upgraded to 8.2.2.2 with same result.
I have noticed the read and write operations undertaken as requested that "remove HD audio" is displayed even though this is not selected in the options. Is this correct?

[solrac42]

Copying BDAV discs from Panasonic recorder

Hi Phil22,

Good and bad news, first do DR file conversion on the movie you want to transfer to your PC in HG mode, this is the highest quality HD conversion from the 'Direct Recording' (DR) mode that the Panasonic uses, then transfer it to Blu ray disc and DVDFab will recognize the audio.

Unfortunately the process never completes when using blu-ray copy with the latest versions 9.0.1.2 and 8.2.2.2, it always stops, but I am sure they will soon fix this.

[phil22]

Many thanks solrac42 for workaround, I'll certainly remember that for the future.
Unfortuantely, I have a number of blu-ray discs cut on the Panasonic via DR mode, with the original on the HDD deleted. So I guess I will just have to wait for problem to be fixed for those.

[solrac42]

Many thanks solrac42 for workaround, I'll certainly remember that for the future.
Unfortuantely, I have a number of blu-ray discs cut on the Panasonic via DR mode, with the original on the HDD deleted. So I guess I will just have to wait for problem to be fixed for those.

Hi Phil22,

I have a work around for your DR movies that you have made already and deleted the original DR files from your Panasonic.

Follow the steps below and you will be successful.

1. Use DVDFab Blu-Ray copy to decrypt your DR blu-ray movie, this will only process the video, keep track of where the m2ts file is stored when DVDFab finishes it.

2. If the movie you have is not copy restricted you can copy it back to the Panasonic HDD in XP mode, then re-copy it back to the blu-ray disc, this will not be encrypted now and you can use tsMuxer to extract the audio from the m2ts file on the blu-ray disc.

3. Now use tsMuxer to mux the video and audio files together using the blu-ray output option and set the audio delay feature in tsMuxer to -2000, (it may necessary to adjust this number to get the audio sync correct).

I have been successful in transferring HD copy restricted titles this way because I did not delete the original DR file from the Panasonic HDD, I did a DR file conversion to XP mode so that it would not be encrypted when I transferred it to a blu-ray disc, in order to extract the audio from it.

If you have any questions, I can assist you in this work around.