3D Main Movie Backup plays back in 2D only

[glenns]

Fab makes log files and stores them in 2 folders in the program files not the running log you see when you are using the program.

The log files are in the place were you put the fab program during installation of the program.By default if you let the fab installer pick a place on your hard drive it will put it in documents so click the windows logo on your computers display page in the lower left side of the screen then click on documents then click on dvdfab when opened click on log when opened theirs the burn files in one file and the internal files in the other.If you never deleted these before every dvd you made with fab will be in the internal files list the burn file will contain only the burned files made with fab burner the vso engine has its own log.In the internal log the last dvd made is on the bottom of the list in the burn file the last burn i believe is on the top of the list cut and past the logs to a post for the last dvd made we don't need that long list just the part containing the dvd you have trouble with.You can delete both lists when they get to long.

[enduser9999]

OK loaded miniso, burned from that source and when played on TV it is still in 2D

Here is the log file:

DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:43:22)

0m 01.10s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.10s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.10s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.10s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.10s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.18s: Load config successful.
0m 01.37s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.18s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.18s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.18s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.60s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.60s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.85s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.35s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.42s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.40s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.68s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.73s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.20s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.23s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.85s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 13.95s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 14.07s: StartNotify successful.


DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:53:31)

0m 01.12s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.12s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.12s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.12s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.12s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.18s: Load config successful.
0m 01.29s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.04s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.04s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.04s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.46s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.46s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.70s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.20s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.26s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.21s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.50s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.56s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.00s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.03s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.65s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 26.71s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 26.82s: StartNotify successful.
0m 26.87s: opening drive G
0m 26.87s: opened i/o
0m 26.87s: got media type 16
0m 26.87s: got max lba 11508895
0m 26.92s: got disc type 20
0m 26.92s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 26.92s: volume label RED_BIRD_3D_WW


DVDFab 8.2.2.6 (2013/01/10 16:54:29)

0m 01.17s: GPUAccelerate: 0
0m 01.17s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.17s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.17s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce 6100 : :
0m 01.17s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.23s: Load config successful.
0m 01.35s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.28s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.28s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.29s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.71s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.71s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.96s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.46s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.53s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.50s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.78s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.84s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 11.29s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.34s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.96s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 13.28s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 13.37s: StartNotify successful.
0m 13.42s: opening drive E
0m 13.45s: opened i/o
0m 13.45s: got media type 16
0m 13.46s: got max lba 0
0m 13.46s: opening drive G
0m 13.46s: opened i/o
0m 13.46s: got media type 16
0m 13.46s: got max lba 11508895
0m 13.47s: got disc type 20
0m 13.47s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 13.47s: volume label RED_BIRD_3D_WW
0m 32.41s: set folder G:/BDMV/ with type 2
0m 32.41s: opening folder G:/BDMV/
0m 32.49s: got bdmv
0m 32.50s: got extended bdinfo
2m 38.08s: burn folder G:/ with DVDFab

[glenns]

Post the burn file also.

[enduser9999]

16:57:06 Info Input Speed is: 35968, Output Speed: 35968
16:57:06 Info StartPerf Speed: 22429, EndPerf Speed: 35968

Burn Folder 2013-01-10 16:57:06 -----------------------------------------------
16:57:06 Info RootDir: G:/
16:57:06 Info VolumeName: BD_VOLUME
16:57:06 Info WriteMode: 4
16:57:06 Info Operation Started!
16:57:06 Info Source File Size: 22478 MB
16:57:25 Info Writing LeadIn...
16:57:25 Info Write started 11508896 sectors to write
17:09:19 Info Synchronising Cache...
17:09:19 Info Synchronising Disc 0
17:09:23 Info Synchronising Disc 65536
17:09:24 Info Closing Track...
17:09:24 Info Finalising Disc...
17:09:48 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:35

[glenns]

Put the reduced iso in power dvd, hit the video button in power dvd, click on the drive you put the movie in,then click on the BDMV, then click on the stream file, look at the file on top it should say ssif this is the folder now to see if anything is in the ssfi folder you now hold your left mouse button down and dont let it up and put the mouse pointer on the ssfi file folder does the number 1 come up in between what looks like a single frame of film?
If so your movie has the 3d files in it if no number 1 comes up then you only have a empty ssfi folder and it won't play in 3d.What 3d tv are you using? you are using hdmi to the tv from the 3d blu ray movie player right?

[glenns]

Your burn speed seems to high.Burn at half the rated disk speed for best results change this is fabs settings.When burn speed is slower more players will be able to read the burnt disk better because it burns the pits deeper in the dvd.

[arcazal]

If blu-ray contain branched playlists or alternated mains/endings (for example Disney films), the main movie copy only play 2D.
Sorry for my bad english.

[enduser9999]

Put the reduced iso in power dvd, hit the video button in power dvd, click on the drive you put the movie in,then click on the BDMV, then click on the stream file, look at the file on top it should say ssif this is the folder now to see if anything is in the ssfi folder you now hold your left mouse button down and dont let it up and put the mouse pointer on the ssfi file folder does the number 1 come up in between what looks like a single frame of film?
If so your movie has the 3d files in it if no number 1 comes up then you only have a empty ssfi folder and it won't play in 3d.What 3d tv are you using? you are using hdmi to the tv from the 3d blu ray movie player right?

I'm having trouble trying to duplicate what you describe with power dvd. I don't see a video button in PD version 12. My 3D tv is the LG 50PM6700, Blu-ray player is the LG BP620, using high-speed HDMI cable with internet between tv and blu-ray player, both have the latest firmwares installed.

[enduser9999]

If blu-ray contain branched playlists or alternated mains/endings (for example Disney films), the main movie copy only play 2D.
Sorry for my bad english.

OK I will try to copy full disc instead of main movie and compress.

[enduser9999]

Your burn speed seems to high.Burn at half the rated disk speed for best results change this is fabs settings.When burn speed is slower more players will be able to read the burnt disk better because it burns the pits deeper in the dvd.

Burn speed does not appear to be an issue, since there is no pixilation, freezing, dropped audio, or bad colors. I will make the next copy at a lower speed.

[glenns]

Ok on powerdvd 10 when opened theirs 3 tabs on the top left that say movie video and music if version 12 has these tabs or buttons like them when you first load a dvd it's goes in movie mode on the movie tab theirs a smaller tab to change the drive your going to use with power dvd so make sure you have the drive set first then load the movie in power dvd and click video you want to see the movies files in the video box their you will see the ssfi file folder at the top of the movies list of included files just hold the left mouse button down while you put the mouse pointer over the ssif folder if you see a single frame of movie film with a (1) in it then the movie has 3d files in the folder and should play in 3d.

On the burn speed take my word for it if you burn to fast some players won't even play the movie as they don't see the information they are looking for so they don't play at all.Standard safe mode is burn at half the disk speed or even slower.

Upon further research models LGBP620,LGBD660 and a Samsung model were reported having trouble with fabs 3d copies and displaying black screen when trying to play 3d backups i am not sure your problem is this but you can read about it here if you haven't already.

Doe's a 50 gig fab made iso work on your stand alone player? Can you try your 25 gig disks in a friends player or playstation to see if it's your model bluray player that's effected?

[glenns]

Another thing you can try is to use the store brought disk and make a main movie 3d copy from the disk and burn with fab burner.Normally we don't do this as it puts wear on your burner drive.9.0.2.0 is the lastest version of fab use this as theirs a lot of changes to this version.

[glenns]

Enduser9999:
Did you make any progress?

[enduser9999]

Hi Glenns,

Thanks for being so persistent in getting this problem solved. I took Arcazal's advice and tried copying the entire disc and not just the main movie like I was doing before and this time it worked! I now have the full 3D effect on the copy. It plays in 3D on both the computer and the Blu-ray player. I made some discoveries along the way.

To get a high quality copy without any audio dropouts or bad video. Turn OFF all applications running on the PC, including the anti-virus program. Do not use the computer for any other purpose during the copy and compressing process.

The Avatar 3D disc is 46.273 GB in size. I got it to compress to 22.646 GB without any visible or audible degradation by following the above tip.

How I got the 3D copy to work:

FIRST PHASE COPY THE FULL DISC TO HD WITHOUT COMPRESSING

1. Make sure under Common Settings that DVD / Blu-ray, Write, Burning Engine is set to the: DVDFab Burning Engine
2. Inset Disc, select Blu-ray Copy, Full Disc
3. Select region when disc starts; wait for DVDFAb to scan disc.
4. How to copy Blu-ray 3D, select "Copy as Blu-ray", Check "Remove HD Audio" if not needed.
5. Disc size at bottom leave it set to "BD50" DO NOT COMPRESS AT THIS TIME
6. Your "Source:" should now be the disc you are going to back up
7. Your "Target:" should be saved as ISO to the HD by selecting icon all the way to the right of the Target.
8. When full disc copy is done, close DVDFab and remove the original disc from Blu-ray drive.

SECOND PHASE COMPRESS ISO TO 25 GB

NOTE:
IF you have anti-virus, and any other programs running turn them all off, and do not use your computer for any other purpose during this process. Doing so will allow your CPU to focus solely on this task and produce good quality results.

1. Start DVDFab Virtual Drive and mount the above saved ISO.
2. Start DVDFab, under "Source" click the down arrow and locate above saved ISO mounted on the virtual drive.
3. Under "Target" click on ISO icon located all the way to the right and select a location to save the compressed full disc ISO image.
4. Under "How to copy Blu-ray 3d" leave it set to "Copy as Blu-ray 3D"
5. In the disc size area set it to "BD25 1080p/i"
6. You can select the "Remove HD Audio" box if not needed.
7. Allow Disc to scan, when done click the "Start" button.
8. Allow Disc to compress. This process will take about 8 hours to complete.
9. When finished, close DVDFab.

THIRD PHASE, COPY YOUR COMPRESSED ISO IMAGE TO a BLANK Blu-ray DISC

1. Start DVDFab virtual drive, select unmount all.
2. Right click DVDFab virtual drive icon on the systray and select the drive shown, and mount.
3. Locate the compressed ISO image saved in the second phase, and mount it.
4. Start DVDFab, under "Source" click the down arrow and locate the ISO mounted on the virtual drive.
5. Under "Target" select your Blu-ray burner drive
6. Under "Blu-ray Copy" select "Full Disc"
7. How to copy Blue-ray 3D, select "Copy as Blu-ray 3D"
8. Under disc size, select "BD25 1080p/i
9. Click Start, close DVDFab when done.

[glenns]

I am glad it works with full disk and being it doesn't work with main movie then theirs a fab bug that needs to be taken care of.I would send your logs with the failed main movie attempt to fab support by email so they can fix this.Also explain it works with full disk.

I don't think turning off Internet security is a good idea any time.Fab uses the Internet during the making and decoding of the disk leaving your fire wall and computer open to attack.

Their should be no audio drop outs or bad video when using fab their are dozens of programs working in the backround of most computers and i don't ever here anyone else shutting down security programs to make Fab work better.Of cause this is up to you it's your computer that's at risk.Now i wouldn't run say a software player and convert a dvd but i have before with out any problems i have a 2 core computer a lot of people have 4-8 core computers and can run a bunch of stuff at once so i guess it depends on your computer.I have used one version of fab to convert and another to put a blu ray on the hard drive both running at the same time without any problems with many programs running in the backround.Fab has a switch in software allowing you to run more than 1 version at the same time.

Now if your using a slow computer 1 core just meeting fabs minimum requirements for use then by all means just run Fab alone but I still think a low resource security program like Norton 360 should be running in the backround to protect your computer.