dvd copy alway produces letterbox even of orginal does have it

[david_ripp]

hello I have been using dvd to create "dvd"clones for which are in 4:3 with
1.78:1 aspec ratio, the orginal media is in 4:3 ,when a copy is created,(usinf dvd main movie) dvdfab always compress the video to letter box why???? the orginal media play fine on the player the duplicate is compress to letter box. I hate letter box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AGJ]

DVDFab DVD Copy does not change the video at all so what you need to do is make sure you are selecting the correct movie as it sounds like the DVD you are using has 2 movies in different aspect ratio on it

[david_ripp]

DVDFab DVD Copy does not change the video at all so what you need to do is make sure you are selecting the correct movie as it sounds like the DVD you are using has 2 movies in different aspect ratio on it

so why would the orignal play fine, and the clone ver, on the same tv annd same dvd blu ray play then show letter box?...with no changes in the setting from orginal to clone dvd player?

[david_ripp]

why?

why does the clone copy of the media have letter box when player on the same tv and dvd player where the oringal doesnt. "No" changes are made on the dvd player regarding setting or aspec ratio etc

[david_ripp]

help

DVDFab DVD Copy does not change the video at all so what you need to do is make sure you are selecting the correct movie as it sounds like the DVD you are using has 2 movies in different aspect ratio on it

how or where do you select the aspec ratio on the media during recording .. i see no setting for that

[katiekim]

Hi, david_ripp

1. If you use dvd clone, the output file is same as origin dvd.
2. If you use dvd fulldisc dvd9 or dvd5, dvdfab does not change the video like AGJ said.
3. If you still have problem, please post internal log, and tell us more info about operation steps.

Thanks.

[david_ripp]

Hi, david_ripp

1. If you use dvd clone, the output file is same as origin dvd.
2. If you use dvd fulldisc dvd9 or dvd5, dvdfab does not change the video like AGJ said.
3. If you still have problem, please post internal log, and tell us more info about operation steps.

Thanks.

ps am using a Sony 3D Blu-ray Disc Player (BDPS570)


log for one of my dvd



VDFab 8.0.5.6 (2011/01/23 13:50:56)

0m 08.23s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 11.13s: detected dvd
0m 11.20s: drive E
0m 11.20s: dvd type 1
0m 11.20s: volume label BAMBI_2
0m 18.98s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 19.11s: got udf/iso
0m 20.73s: got discinfo
0m 20.73s: pathplayer enabled
0m 37.95s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
1m 04.02s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537


DVDFab 8.0.5.6 (2011/01/23 13:55:27)

0m 01.04s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 02.16s: detected dvd
0m 02.23s: drive E
0m 02.24s: dvd type 1
0m 02.24s: volume label BAMBI_2
0m 05.22s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 05.30s: got udf/iso
0m 07.02s: got discinfo
0m 07.02s: pathplayer enabled
0m 23.04s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
0m 47.79s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
0m 48.03s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
1m 23.33s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 23.35s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
1m 23.41s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 23.63s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
1m 23.85s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
1m 23.85s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 23.85s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
1m 24.08s: pathplayer loop 5 0 5 3 95201
1m 24.10s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
1m 24.10s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.10s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 24.10s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
1m 24.14s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.14s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.14s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.14s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.17s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.17s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.19s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.21s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.22s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.24s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.24s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.25s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 24.36s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
1m 24.38s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
1m 24.72s: pathplayer loop 5 0 5 3 95201
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.74s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
1m 24.75s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
1m 24.75s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
1m 24.95s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
1m 24.97s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 24.97s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 25.00s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.02s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.06s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.08s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.08s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.13s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.14s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.14s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.17s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
1m 25.23s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
1m 25.23s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
1m 26.72s: got dvdinfo


DVDFab 8.0.5.6 (2011/01/23 14:51:48)

0m 01.03s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1


DVDFab 8.0.5.6 (2011/01/23 14:51:59)

0m 11.57s: detected dvd
0m 11.57s: drive E
0m 11.57s: dvd type 0
0m 11.57s: volume label
0m 08.95s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 09.84s: detected dvd
0m 09.84s: drive E
0m 09.85s: dvd type 0
0m 09.85s: volume label
3m 52.94s: detected dvd
3m 52.94s: iso x:\BAMBI_2\(dvd)BAMBI_2.iso
3m 52.94s: dvd type 1
3m 52.95s: volume label BAMBI_2
3m 54.48s: got copyright 0 0
3m 54.73s: got udf/iso
3m 54.86s: got discinfo
3m 54.87s: pathplayer enabled
3m 59.32s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
4m 00.95s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 00.95s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.45s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.47s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.56s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.62s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 5 3 95201
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.66s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
4m 02.67s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.69s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.70s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.70s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.70s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.70s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.73s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.73s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.76s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.76s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.78s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.80s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.80s: pathplayer loop 1 1 1 3 22133
4m 02.84s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 10 3 157625
4m 02.86s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 5 3 95201
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 3 3 27537
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 11 3 140528
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 8 3 202856
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 4 3 69582
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.87s: pathplayer loop 5 0 6 3 26608
4m 02.89s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.89s: pathplayer loop 5 0 7 6 230283
4m 02.92s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.92s: pathplayer loop 5 0 9 3 184662
4m 02.97s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.97s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 02.97s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.00s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.00s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.01s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.03s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.05s: pathplayer loop 1 1 2 3 67092
4m 03.22s: got dvdinfo
4m 42.28s: detected dvd
4m 42.28s: drive E
4m 42.28s: dvd type 0
4m 42.28s: volume label
4m 40.52s: detected dvd
4m 40.52s: drive E
4m 40.52s: dvd type 0
4m 40.52s: volume label
77m 18.28s: detected dvd
77m 18.28s: drive E
77m 18.28s: dvd type 0
77m 18.28s: volume label
77m 22.30s: detected dvd
77m 22.30s: drive E
77m 22.30s: dvd type 0
77m 22.30s: volume label

[david_ripp]

my operations for making dvd clone

select dvd copy
select dvd clone
try just selecting dvd copy dvd data only
also tryed selecting dvd copy dvd data and copy orginal ifo

then start

then to burm select dvd full disc select soruce and target etc
remove "pgcs info check box
and start....

[maineman]

Actually, you're not creating a clone, but rather a Full Disc bkup (from the clone rip).
Please post relevant burn log.
(We'll need to see that portion of the log where the actual burn occurred).

Is there a reason that you're using 2 separate processes to accomplish this?
Are you only using one ODD (dvd drive)?
If yes, you can do this with one process although you will have to swap the discs (2 steps).

As you select clone, please also select your burner as the Target.
(If you're using 2 ODD's, then insert your blank disc in the burner. If not you'll have to swap the discs,
but Fab will prompt you and burn without having to close and re-open the software).


Not to beat a dead horse, but DVD Copy does not have the capability to change the aspect ratio. You would need to use DVD Ripper.

Your BD player is somehow selecting either the wrong format or selecting the wrong title for playback, based on what you've posted
Do these originals have both Full (4:3) and Wide Screen (16:9 or 2.35:1) titles?

[david_ripp]

comment and log added below..

Actually, you're not creating a clone, but rather a Full Disc bkup (from the clone rip).

Please post relevant burn log.

newest burn log...

2011-01-25 17:19:53 ---- ******************** Log session stop 25-Jan 17:19:53.296 PID 2592********************
2011-01-25 16:41:45 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2011-01-25 16:41:45 Info Finalization Time 00:00:25 - Total completion time 00:12:01
2011-01-25 16:41:20 Info Write finished in 00:11:36 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 5.14
2011-01-25 16:32:09 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 145062
2011-01-25 16:29:44 Info Write started 2202288 sectors to write
2011-01-25 16:29:44 Info Init success: DVD+R
2011-01-25 16:29:44 Info Writing speed requested x6.0, effective x6.0
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Available write speed: 16x ,12x ,8x ,6x
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Media ID: SONY-D21-00
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Media type: DVD+R
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Scanned files #25, folder #2 - total size 4509155328 b. (4.20 Gb.)
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Inserted media type : DVD+R
2011-01-25 16:29:42 Info Write started
2011-01-25 16:29:39 Info Writable disc DVD+R inserted. Ready to write
2011-01-25 16:14:14 Info Disc (DVD-ROM) not empty.
2011-01-25 16:13:24 Info Disc (DVD-ROM) not empty.
2011-01-25 16:12:24 Info Disc (DVD-ROM) not empty.
2011-01-25 16:12:22 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R, Blu Ray-R Seq., Blu Ray-R Rnd., Blu Ray-RE
2011-01-25 16:12:22 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2011-01-25 16:12:22 Info New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - HP BD Writer bd340i RH26 [E] (Usb)
2011-01-25 15:58:49 Info Disc ejected by user while parsing.
2011-01-25 15:58:47 Info Parsing disc ...
2011-01-25 15:57:58 Info No disc in drive.
2011-01-25 15:57:54 Info Can't read disc.
2011-01-25 15:57:46 Info No disc in drive.
2011-01-25 15:57:44 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2011-01-25 15:57:44 Info Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2011-01-25 15:57:44 Info New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632D DE03 [D] (Ide)
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info Current Drive selected : 1:0:0 - TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632D DE03 [D] (Ide)
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info Using Advanced SPTI interface
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info System default language : English (United States)
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info User default language : English (United States)
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info DLL Version : 4.0.13.476
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 8\vso_hwe.dll
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info Version : 8, 0, 5, 6
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 8\DVDFab.exe
2011-01-25 15:55:10 Info OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Build 6002: Service Pack 2)
2011-01-25 15:55:10 ---- ******************** Log session start 25-Jan 15:55:10.479 PID 2592********************


(We'll need to see that portion of the log where the actual burn occurred).

Is there a reason that you're using 2 separate processes to accomplish this?

"Yes in the past dvdfab crashes ...when i have clone dvd or blurays to dvd, ie dvdfab will succedfull write "1" dvd when you select burn again ...it crashes.. 3.5-4 min into the burn .so to minimize my efforts ( 3.5h for blurays)i save them to working drive."


Are you only using one ODD (dvd drive)? yes the drive is a external bluray / dvd combo...


"If yes, you can do this with one process although you will have to swap the discs (2 steps).I have, what happens is get black better box bar top and bottom ... then I get secoundary set of grey bars smaller version grey letterbox under that."

"note when I use imgburn on same player i have no issues with letter box... like above?"

As you select clone, please also select your burner as the Target.

"I have....try that again.... no differeancet i have been doing is creating iso file for future burning till i figure this out?"




(If you're using 2 ODD's, then insert your blank disc in the burner. If not you'll have to swap the discs,
but Fab will prompt you and burn without having to close and re-open the software).


Not to beat a dead horse, but DVD Copy does not have the capability to change the aspect ratio. You would need to use DVD Ripper.

Your BD player is somehow selecting either the wrong format or selecting the wrong title for playback, based on what you've posted
Do these originals have both Full (4:3) and Wide Screen (16:9 or 2.35:1) titles? "the last one 1.78:1" some are 2.35:1 etc

the blueray play is set to the followin settings

tv type 4:3 x or 16:9

screen format : orginal x or fixasec ratio

dvd
aspec ratio : pan and scan x or letterbox

Im confused why this happening?

[david_ripp]

help?

anyone have any comments for my posted logs

[maineman]

Sorry to be so long getting back to you...

Please try the following:
Select Img as Fab's default burn engine and utilize Fab for the entire process as I described previously.

Also please try to use your samsung TS-L632D for your burner as this should burn dvds without issue (as long as you're not using DVD -R DL which, is a bad choice regardless).
VSO is misbehaving to say the least. It is problematic for many users and appears so for you.

I'm still not sure of the following...
Do these original dvds have multiple formats on the same disc?

Have you utilized any other software?
VSO-DivXtoDVD comes to mind as this will convert aspect ratios.
As I said, Fab DVD Copy will not.

[katiekim]

Hi, david_ripp

1. I tried to rip a DVD with operation steps you did, and no problem.(steps: clone-->fulldisc--burn)
2. Please change another DVD to retry.

Thanks.

[david_ripp]

Sorry to be so long getting back to you...

Please try the following:
Select Img as Fab's default burn engine and utilize Fab for the entire process as I described previously.

Also please try to use your samsung TS-L632D for your burner as this should burn dvds without issue (as long as you're not using DVD -R DL which, is a bad choice regardless).
VSO is misbehaving to say the least. It is problematic for many users and appears so for you.

where is the vso engine located so i can delte and install new version....?

I'm still not sure of the following...
Do these original dvds have multiple formats on the same disc?

no

Have you utilized any other software?
VSO-DivXtoDVD comes to mind as this will convert aspect ratios.try

i have only tried imgbrn

As I said, Fab DVD Copy will not

[david_ripp]

Hi, david_ripp

1. I tried to rip a DVD with operation steps you did, and no problem.(steps: clone-->fulldisc--burn)
2. Please change another DVD to retry.

yes i tried again to night same problem... using ver 8.0.5.6

Thanks