Problem installing in Win98SE

[maineman]

..Of course, that doesn't mean I'm leaving the forum, I'll probably drop in if I have issues with DVDFab on my XP (and Win7 once that happens). Yes, I skipping over Vista, heh.

That's good news. Please don't be a stranger.
We all benefit from putting more heads together on this stuff.

I skipped Vista too. Still using XP Pro SP3 and loving it, but I have gathered all my stuff for a new core i7 build with the exception of my Win 7 Pro OS which should be here on or around 10/22...fingers X'd.

I've run Fab on Windows 7 Beta and RC and had no problems...really like the OS too.

Catch you around.

[technoid]

I'm guessing you're still not considering tossing in the towel on 98?...
I kinda can't blame you, I did like 98, but good heavens man.

Well no, not tossing in the towel. I have Windows XP/ME/3.1x/98SE/98ME/95OSR2.x (and MS-DOSes of course). I use them all for certain purposes as well as for my own enjoyment (eventually I'll also get to installing some xBSD O/S variant when I have more free time). I never did install Win2k since it came out, but pretty soon too (a friend is giving away her 2k CD to me for free). Let's see if DVDFab 6.x runs on 2k, but I'm sure it will.

I run DVDFab 6.0.7.0 just fine on XP. I was just hoping that version 6.x would also run [stable] on 98SE/98ME/ME, because the product requirements originally said so whether or not it was accurate (now we know it was inaccurate, heh). That is what caught my eye. But now since the authors/webmasters of DVDFab caught my topic, they have now changed it. It looks like they don't want to support 98SE on version 6.x when they supported it on version 5.x. I don't know why, perhaps there are code changes in 6.x that keeps them from supporting non-NT Windows. That is why I came here, to confirm if they still support 98SE, because I discovered DVDFab 6.x was very unstable on it. It will install, but once you get to the main screen, everything goes weird, and you'd have to reboot. Again, it seems to be a memory leak at the very least. There is a certain 98SE Kernel patch that make some NT-only programs work on 98SE. I've read that you can now run such things as Doom3 and Firefox3, et al, on 98SE, but I tried that with DVDFab 6.x and it didn't work (almost worked).

So now it looks like I've completed my mission and have made DVDFab (dot com) show the correct system requirements. I can still use version 5.x on 98SE though. It's better than no DVDFab at all, but it means that's the end of the road for features and debugs.

Of course, that doesn't mean I'm leaving the forum, I'll probably drop in if I have issues with DVDFab on my XP (and Win7 once that happens). Yes, I skipping over Vista, heh.

[maineman]

Yup, took about 4-5 hours. It's a speed record!

I'm guessing you're still not considering tossing in the towel on 98?...
I kinda can't blame you, I did like 98, but good heavens man.

[technoid]

It's not now !!!!

Yup, took about 4-5 hours. It's a speed record!

[GregiBoy]

It's not now !!!!

[technoid]

Do not hold your breath waiting for it !!!!

Oh wait a second, it still shows on , hehehe:

System Requirements

* Windows Vista/XP/2000/98/ME
* Pentium II 500 MHz
* 256 MB of RAM
* 10 GB of Free Hard Disk Space
* A DVD-R(W) or DVD+R(W) Drive

The O/S requirement box at the download page took a week to get changed after I posted this topic (when it should've been changed when v6.0 was released!). Let's see how long the dvd-to-dvd.htm page change will take.

[GregiBoy]

Do not hold your breath waiting for it !!!!

[technoid]

Heh, well just as I thought, the O/S requirements box at the finally dropped "98/ME" off it. I am reinstalling 98/ME on one of my computers, so I have not yet tried 6.0.7.0, but I'm sure it will probably not work. According to some people I've talked to which also installed/ran DVDFAB 6.x, it was found that the crashing issue probably has something to do with GDI heap... so it's a memory source tasking/leaking problem. Someone is actually doing a GDI recode for 98SE, but it is still deep in beta. I will still try 6.0.7.0 once my 98SE installation (actually it's more like "98ME") is finished.

So bascially, I guess someone at DVDFAB probably just forgot to delete "98/ME" from the system requirements page for version 6 earlier this year. If that is the case, then I think that still needs to be mentioned in the history/changelog that 98/ME has been officially dropped.

Ironically though, 98/SE functionally was restored in version 5.1.1.0 almost a year ago:

* Fix: Windows 98/Me support was broken for some time, and now it's back.

Well, unless they bring back 98/Me support (again!) in DVDFab 6.1.x beta and later, lol. :P

[Gummigutta]

I do not have either but have you both tried with the Anti-virus and firewall turned off when installing DVDFab

Both AV and FW was disabled. Even tried not to install the suggested burning engine.

[Gummigutta]

I have plenty of other computers with more modern O/S.

My post only was to know if the problem was related to a specific computer or if "others" with those O/S also would run into it.

Either the program supports those "old" O/S or not. As it is now - it's stated that it do.

[GregiBoy]

I suggest that you consider updating your OS (and PC if you have to) because I don't think support for 98/ME will be around much longer. Microsoft dropped support years ago.

[AGJ]

I do not have either but have you both tried with the Anti-virus and firewall turned off when installing DVDFab

[Gummigutta]

Tried to install the latest beta 6.0.6.9 on my Windows Me computer and it ends up in an error message that Dvdfab has caused an error in <unknown>.

It happens at the very last stage in the installation after all the file copying. The same error message appears after a restart when I try to start the program.

[GregiBoy]

Yes, you are right, I do not need a lecture. :P

I choose to run 98SE for fun and because of some old programs it can run on, that will not on my XP computer, plus the fact it can be installed and run quicker on older hardware. It would be nice to run the latest DVDFabs because they have the burner built into them (and the DVD9-to-DVD5 shrinker) without having to upgrade. Version 5.2.2.2 did not have those in the evaluation version (or the free Decrypter).

Also, 98SE is still alive and kicking. There is a nice big community of us that still choose to run it and there are several unofficial upgrades for that it that have gone way beyond what Microsoft has done. And I am one of the few in the 98SE userbase, as signals mentioned. However, I don't understand that if the makers of DVDFab choose to keep 98SE support alive, then they should have a 98SE rig in their test labs. Let's hope they do! Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful that 98SE is supported here.

Additionally, I will report this error to that aforementioned 98SE userbase, of programmers. Perhaps they will download DVDFAb to help find the cause of the crash (but I again, I hope DVDFab developers will also help).

I wouldn't hold your breath.

From a purely commercial aspect, it makes no sense to support 98SE when Microsoft dropped support for it years ago.

[technoid]

I know the Fab homepage claims support for Win 98 (perhaps not much longer) and I know you don't need a lecture from me, but I would give serious thought to upgrading your OS.

Yes, you are right, I do not need a lecture. :P

I choose to run 98SE for fun and because of some old programs it can run on, that will not on my XP computer, plus the fact it can be installed and run quicker on older hardware. It would be nice to run the latest DVDFabs because they have the burner built into them (and the DVD9-to-DVD5 shrinker) without having to upgrade. Version 5.2.2.2 did not have those in the evaluation version (or the free Decrypter).

Also, 98SE is still alive and kicking. There is a nice big community of us that still choose to run it and there are several unofficial upgrades for that it that have gone way beyond what Microsoft has done. And I am one of the few in the 98SE userbase, as signals mentioned. However, I don't understand that if the makers of DVDFab choose to keep 98SE support alive, then they should have a 98SE rig in their test labs. Let's hope they do! Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful that 98SE is supported here.

Additionally, I will report this error to that aforementioned 98SE userbase, of programmers. Perhaps they will download DVDFAb to help find the cause of the crash (but I again, I hope DVDFab developers will also help).