Why would DVDFab Think a DL DVD-R is a Blu Ray?

[Emoto]

Today, DVDFab seems to think my blank Ridata DVD-R DL discs are blue rays! I attempted to burn a back up of a DVD that I had DVD Copied to a folder on my local drive, it rejected several different blank DVD-R DL discs, telling me they were Blu Rays. They were not Blu Rays, I have burned other movies to these DVD discs from the same package. Any thoughts?

Update: This issue seems to be related to which burning engine one selects

IMGBurn = thinks the DVD-R DL is a Blu Ray
VSO Burning Engine = thinks the DVD-R DL is a Blu Ray
DVDFab Burning Engine = Correctly identifies the disc as DVD-R DL and burns the movie.

[Gummigutta]

IMGBurn = thinks the DVD-R DL is a Blu Ray

Can you post the log from that try?
Press the ? sign in the upper right corner and select Open log folder

Post the log from the file dvdfab_burn_imgburn.log

[Emoto]

Can you post the log from that try?
Press the ? sign in the upper right corner and select Open log folder

Post the log from the file dvdfab_burn_imgburn.log

Sorry. It never got to the stage of initializing IMGBurn, so the log there is from a prior (successful - of something else) burn and has no relevance.

[Gummigutta]

If you open up ImgBurn with one of those blanc discs and select the write mode. Can you post the info in the right panel - it should be some info like this:

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-118L 1.02 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4*173*824
Free Space: 8*547*991*552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Next Writable Address: 0
MID: MKM-003-00
Supported Write Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 10x

DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2*086*912
Changeable: Yes

Physical Format Information (ADIP - L0):
Disc ID: MKM-003-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196*608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16*580*607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2*283*519

Physical Format Information (ADIP - L1):
Disc ID: MKM-003-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196*608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16*580*607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2*283*519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
Disc ID: MKM-003-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196*608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16*580*607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2*283*519

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
Disc ID: MKM-003-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196*608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16*580*607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2*283*519

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
-> RS: 16*620 KB/s (12x) - WS: 5*540 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
-> RS: 16*620 KB/s (12x) - WS: 8*310 KB/s (6x)
Descriptor 3...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
-> RS: 16*620 KB/s (12x) - WS: 11*080 KB/s (8x)
Descriptor 4...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
-> RS: 16*620 KB/s (12x) - WS: 13*850 KB/s (10x)

[Emoto]

Happy to, Gummigutta. Here:

PIONEER BD-RW BDR-206D 1.56 (SATA)
Current Profile: DVD-R DL

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,172,816
Free Space: 8,545,927,168 bytes
Free Time: 927:19:41 (MM:SS:FF)
Next Writable Address: 0
MID: RITEKP01
Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x

DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,092,896
Changeable: No

DVD-R DL Shifted Middle Area:
Start Address: Not Specified
Changeable: Yes

DVD-R DL Manual Layer Jump:
Address: Not Specified

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: RITEKP01

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
Disc ID: 0-00
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 6
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,289,503

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
Disc ID: 0-00
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 6
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,289,503

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4172815 (0x003FAC0F)
-> RS: 2,770 KB/s (2x) - WS: 2,770 KB/s (2x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 4172815 (0x003FAC0F)
-> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)

As you can see, IMGBurn has no difficulty correctly identifying the disc type. So, what I infer from this is that the issue is not with the burning engine itself. In my view the issue is within DVDFab when burning engines other than the DVDFab burning engine are selected. In some way, I believe it possible that the code for selecting which burning engine to employ, causes DVDFab to make an error identifying blank media, prior to the stage of initializing the selected burning engine.

[CBR929]

Hi Emoto
If I may ask, Why are you using DVD-R DL discs???
These should be avoided as they are not meant for video.
Try using DVD+R DL
CBR929

[Emoto]

Hi Emoto
If I may ask, Why are you using DVD-R DL discs???
These should be avoided as they are not meant for video.
Try using DVD+R DL
CBR929

Hi CBR,

Because I don't know any better.

I think my decision process went something like this. I use DVD-R discs for movies that will fit, but especially now that I have a high def TV, I don't want to compress a standard def movie, because the loss in visual quality is so noticeable. So, I thought if DVD-R is fine for movies, then DVD-R DL should be ok for larger films that don't fit on a single layer disc.

Frankly, I have used a few different brands of DVD-R DL discs and they seem to play just fine. Have I been lucky? What makes a DVD+R DL disc better for video?

[90312]

-R DL has a hard layer break that can't be user defined, it can't be booktyped to DVD-ROM for maximum compatibility across all players. It is treated by the computer as one big disk rather than two layers, all attributes shared by BR discs interesting huh?

[Earl]

I had the same failure today, fab said 66 percent so I tryed fab 9 to burn
on TDK dvd+r dl. failed 2 times on DVDfab Engine. gave up so I put it on
a sl DVD+r @ 66 percent OK.