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    Can't rip an old tv serie with 5.2,was good with 5.0

    I was able to rip Jag Season 1 with version 9.1.5.0. Now I upgrade to 5.2 and DVDFab saw only 8MB of files on the DVD.

    I put back old version 9.1.4.0 and everything is find again.

    #2
    We will fix it as soon as possible, Thank you very much for your feedback.

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      #3
      Please post dvdfab_internal.log, thanks.
      DVDFab is the all-in-one software package for copying Blu-ray/DVD and converting video file.
      http://www.dvdfab.cn

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        #4
        Is it possible to get the 9.1.5.0 upgrade exe file since this version was stable.

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          #5
          Hi,jiembe
          Please download the latest version 9153 and try again!
          In DVDFab download center, you can find and download free full range of products including DVDFab 13, StreamFab, MusicFab, Passkey, UniFab, etc.
          Last edited by geilee; 07-28-2014, 03:01 AM.

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            #6
            I downloaded v9.1.5.3US, installed it and then attempted to do a Full Disk copy of the first of the 7 disc series of Carl Sagan's Cosmos but as with v9.1.5.2US, while the main episode - Disc 1 has only one episode while the rest of the discs have multiple episodes - copied fine including the main menu, all the rest of the sub menus were missing, e.g. Audio and Subtitles, Web Addresses and Chapter Selection. However, when I did the same Full Disk copy using v9.1.4.5, not only did the main episode copy just fine, so did ALL the menus, including the main menu and all sub menus. I then repeated this procedure on Disc 2 of the series and got precisely the same results - with v9.1.5.3US the two episodes copied fine but with the exception of the main menu, all sub menus were missing. Using v9.1.4.5 to do the same Full Copy worked perfectly with not only the two episodes copied perfectly but also ALL the menus were copied as well.

            Obviously there is something wrong with the last couple of versions of 9.1.5.x in that they are missing/skipping essentially ALL the menus with the exception of the main menu. So while I'll continue to download, install and try each new version that comes out, I intend to keep v9.1.4.5 on my desktop and will continue to use it for copying TV series discs until such time as the new 9.1.5.x versions are repaired or updated so that they no longer skip/refuse to copy all the files expected in Full Copy mode.

            sleeper1428

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              #7
              Hi,
              Please post dvdfab_internal.log file here , thanks.

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                #8
                I hope this is the log file you requested. The internal log file was quite long so I am including only the info on Cosmos disc 6 which is representative of all the other discs but even this information will require two messages. In this one I'm posting the log info on v9.1.5.3US and the second message will contain the log info on v9.1.4.5.

                Hope this helps you figure out the problem. I actually don't mind keeping two versions of DVDFab on my desktop but it would be nice if you could figure out the problem. If you need further information, I'll do what I can to find what you need but you will have to give me very specific directions on where to look for any other information related to DVDFab's copy functions.

                DVDFab 9.1.5.3 (2014/06/19 13:42:19)

                0m 00.03s: Init Public log : enabled.
                0m 00.03s: Init Private log : finish.
                0m 00.03s: App info: 2014-6-18
                0m 00.03s: App info: 9.1.5.3 9153 Official
                0m 00.03s: Init CrashReportSettings : disabled.
                0m 00.03s: Init DVDInfo_Log : enabled.
                0m 00.03s: Init Qt_Log : disabled.
                0m 00.21s: Profile Manager :: Begin Load Profile
                0m 00.21s: Qt Translator file load success
                0m 00.23s: App info: client type 10.
                0m 00.24s: Fabplay load: preload successful.
                0m 00.31s: Fabplay load: Load successful.
                0m 00.32s: Init process: Transfer settings successful.
                0m 00.32s: info: fabcheck logpath= C:/Users/Gaither/Documents/DVDFab9/Log/
                0m 00.34s: info: fab_check_gpu is running ...
                0m 00.95s: info: fab_check_gpu run successful
                0m 00.95s: info: recommand= 0, Shrink support= 1, enable= 0, cuda_cap= 0 , cpu_count= 4
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate-12351
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate setting-0, 8248
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: CUDA cap-0
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: Support coreavc decode-0
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: Lighting shrink status-1, 0
                0m 00.95s: GPU check: Graphics info 1: NVIDIA GeForce 9300 GE : 5.0 : 1.1
                0m 00.96s: Init process: Load config failed.
                0m 00.96s: Init process: Windows os type is 32bit System Windows 7.
                0m 00.96s: Init process: command line in is
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: Parse string: ( 2:1497393054 )( 50:1371181459 )( 1:22 )( OV:9153 )( BV:9151 )( S:892ac5aea3f0f73b1798aab4fe445b56 )
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: Option check status-Local
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: ( HD Decrypter:1:0 )-( DVD to DVD (Gold):1:0 )-( DVD to DVD:1:1 )-( DVD to Mobile:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to Blu-ray:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to Mobile:1:0 )-( File to Mobile:0:1 )-( Blu-ray to DVD:1:0 )-( File to DVD:1:0 )-( File to Blu-ray:1:0 )-( File Mover:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to 3D:1:0 )-( 2D to 3D:1:0 )-( Blu-ray Decrypt:1:0 )-( DVD Decrypt:1:0 )-
                0m 01.04s: App info: language type ENU.
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: Start get sys number.
                0m 01.04s: Export Blu-ray source information report : disabled
                0m 01.04s: Init process: Init GPU settings successful.
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: Serial number is: 00-22-15-18-91-db
                0m 01.04s: Reg check: Connect type is: 0
                0m 01.34s: Init preview: Begin init preview play engine.
                0m 01.34s: Init preview: Begin init preview play engine(XBMC).
                0m 01.77s: Init preview: Init internal engine successful.
                0m 01.99s: Reg check: Times of connecting error is: 0
                0m 01.99s: Reg check: Parse string: ( S:e0de904401c03fd25fd8f2aa408f456f
                0m 01.99s: Reg check: Option check status-NewWork
                0m 03.37s: Burn engine: start init.
                0m 03.44s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile
                0m 03.64s: Burn engine: engine type-0.
                0m 03.64s: Burn engine: writer count 2.
                0m 03.64s: Burn engine: 0- E:\ [HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L FC09 (Ide)].
                0m 03.64s: Burn engine: 1- F:\ [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-810SA 1.00 (Ide)].
                0m 03.64s: Burn engine: end init.
                0m 04.91s: Init process: Init setting page successful.
                0m 04.92s: QtLog Mode = false
                0m 04.92s: Show UI Step 2
                0m 05.41s: Show UI Step 3
                0m 05.41s: Start show MainUI.
                0m 05.41s: UI manager: switch to Copy mode.
                0m 06.20s: Init process: init main ui successful.
                0m 06.31s: Init process: show main ui successful.
                0m 06.31s: DriveX msg: Init driveX E with I/O mode: 0
                0m 06.31s: DriveX msg: Init driveX F with I/O mode: 0
                0m 09.30s: opening drive E
                0m 09.34s: opened i/o
                0m 09.36s: opening drive F
                0m 09.45s: opened i/o
                1m 13.11s: DriveX msg: adding media in driveX F.
                1m 29.18s: opening drive F
                1m 30.06s: opened i/o
                1m 30.07s: got media type 4
                1m 30.31s: got max lba 4037724
                1m 30.35s: got disc type 10
                1m 30.40s: type DVD-VIDEO
                1m 30.40s: volume label COSMOS_06
                1m 30.40s: DriveX msg: add media in driveX F.
                1m 30.40s: DriveX msg: send open media msg to thread for driveX F.
                1m 30.40s: Source manager: add source id 0.
                1m 30.42s: Source open statusVD Yes, 2017-6-14
                1m 30.42s: Source open status:BD Yes, 2158-1-1
                1m 30.42s: internal path F:/VIDEO_TS/
                1m 30.54s: got copyright 1 c0
                1m 31.28s: got udf/iso
                1m 31.81s: got discinfo
                1m 31.82s: pathplayer enabled
                1m 43.34s: got dvdinfo
                1m 43.53s: opened dvd
                1m 43.54s: Source manager: open successful.
                1m 43.64s: Work manager: create DVD fulldisc work 0 with source 0 and uiinfo 0.
                2m 04.72s: UILog:OnMsgToolbar_Start
                2m 04.72s: UILog:Msg Start : ready start
                2m 04.72s: UILog:Msg Start : start test run work
                2m 04.75s: UILog:right button to null, work falg = -1
                2m 04.77s: UILog:Msg Start : run work
                2m 04.77s: UILog:Run current Work.
                2m 04.77s: UILog:Begin work copy or converter.
                2m 04.77s: UILog:start running at thread.
                2m 04.80s: UILog:return flag at start running at thread ok.
                2m 04.99s: UILog:MsgWork:WorkStatus_Start
                2m 05.01s: DVD Copy
                2m 05.01s: Source: F:/
                2m 05.01s: SourceSize: 7768 MB
                2m 05.01s: OutputSize: 8100 MB
                13m 09.93s: DriveX msg: remove media in driveX F.
                13m 10.71s: UILog:MsgWork:current work finish : 3
                13m 10.71s: UILog:Run Work to end.
                13m 10.71s: connect 0 : start.
                13m 11.03s: connect 0 : 1:1
                13m 29.41s: Exit process: stop running.
                13m 29.43s: Exit process: preview pfn_releaseplayer end
                13m 29.52s: Exit process: preview pfn_deinit end
                13m 29.57s: Exit process: preview FreeLibrary end
                0m 00.10s:

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                  #9
                  This is the second part of my reply and it contains the log info on v9.1.4.5 which I used to copy this disc - Cosmos Disc 6 - without any problems. As I mentioned in my initial message, using v9.1.5.3US the episodes copied fine as did the main menu but ALL submenus were missing. Hope this helps you clear up the problem.


                  DVDFab 9.1.4.5 (2014/06/19 13:59:05)

                  0m 00.10s: Init Public log : enabled.
                  0m 00.10s: Init Private log : finish.
                  0m 00.10s: App info: 2014-5-14
                  0m 00.10s: App info: 9.1.4.5 9145 Official
                  0m 00.10s: Init CrashReportSettings : disabled.
                  0m 00.10s: Init DVDInfo_Log : enabled.
                  0m 00.10s: Init Qt_Log : disabled.
                  0m 01.87s: Profile Manager :: Begin Load Profile
                  0m 01.95s: Qt Translator file load success
                  0m 01.95s: App info: client type 2.
                  0m 01.98s: Fabplay load: preload successful.
                  0m 02.09s: Fabplay load: Load successful.
                  0m 02.10s: Init process: Transfer settings successful.
                  0m 02.10s: info: fabcheck logpath= C:/Users/Gaither/Documents/DVDFab9/Log/
                  0m 02.16s: fab_check_gpu is running ...
                  0m 03.12s: fab_check_gpu run successful
                  0m 03.12s: info: recommand= 0, Shrink support= 1, enable= 0, cuda_cap= 0 , cpu_count= 4
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate-12351
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: GPUAccelerate setting-0, 8248
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: CUDA cap-0
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: Support coreavc decode-0
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: Lighting shrink status-1, 0
                  0m 03.12s: GPU check: Graphics info 1: NVIDIA GeForce 9300 GE : 5.0 : 1.1
                  0m 03.13s: Init process: Load config failed.
                  0m 03.13s: Init process: Windows os type is 32bit System Windows 7.
                  0m 03.13s: Init process: command line in is
                  0m 03.55s: Reg check: Parse string: ( 2:1497393054 )( 50:1371181459 )( 1:23 )( 11:0 )( OV:9152 )( BV:9151 )( S:643e84b45d070b2902a224820754a9e4 )
                  0m 03.57s: Reg check: Option check status-Local
                  0m 03.57s: Reg check: ( HD Decrypter:1:0 )-( DVD to DVD (Gold):1:0 )-( DVD to DVD:1:1 )-( DVD to Mobile:0:0 )-( Blu-ray to Blu-ray:0:0 )-( Blu-ray to Mobile:0:0 )-( File to Mobile:0:1 )-( Blu-ray to DVD:0:0 )-( File to DVD:0:0 )-( File to Blu-ray:0:0 )-( File Mover:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to 3D:0:0 )-( 2D to 3D:0:0 )-( Blu-ray Decrypt:1:0 )-( DVD Decrypt:1:0 )-
                  0m 03.57s: App info: language type ENU.
                  0m 03.57s: Reg check: Start get sys number.
                  0m 03.57s: Reg check: Serial number is: 00-22-15-18-91-db
                  0m 03.57s: Reg check: Connect type is: 0
                  0m 03.74s: Init process: Init GPU settings successful.
                  0m 04.30s: Init preview: Begin init preview play engine.
                  0m 04.30s: Init preview: Begin init preview play engine(XBMC).
                  0m 04.46s: Reg check: Times of connecting error is: 0
                  0m 04.46s: Reg check: Parse string: ( 1:22 )( OV:9153 )( S:71f3d24ce79e858dd8a99004b5483157
                  0m 04.58s: Reg check: Option check status-NewWork
                  0m 04.58s: Reg check: ( HD Decrypter:1:0 )-( DVD to DVD (Gold):1:0 )-( DVD to DVD:1:1 )-( DVD to Mobile:0:0 )-( Blu-ray to Blu-ray:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to Mobile:1:0 )-( File to Mobile:0:1 )-( Blu-ray to DVD:1:0 )-( File to DVD:1:0 )-( File to Blu-ray:1:0 )-( File Mover:1:0 )-( Blu-ray to 3D:1:0 )-( 2D to 3D:1:0 )-( Blu-ray Decrypt:1:0 )-( DVD Decrypt:1:0 )-
                  0m 05.00s: Init preview: Init internal engine successful.
                  0m 06.96s: Profile Manager :: End Load Profile
                  0m 07.92s: Burn engine: start init.
                  0m 11.21s: Burn engine: engine type-0.
                  0m 11.21s: Burn engine: writer count 2.
                  0m 11.21s: Burn engine: 0- E:\ [HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH10L FC09 (Ide)].
                  0m 11.27s: Burn engine: 1- F:\ [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-810SA 1.00 (Ide)].
                  0m 11.27s: Burn engine: end init.
                  0m 12.64s: Init process: Init setting page successful.
                  0m 12.64s: QtLog Mode = false
                  0m 12.64s: Show UI Step 2
                  0m 13.14s: Show UI Step 3
                  0m 13.14s: Start show MainUI.
                  0m 13.14s: UI manager: switch to Copy mode.
                  0m 13.84s: allow_test : false
                  0m 13.84s: fab_app_path : C:/Program Files/DVDFab 9 US/
                  0m 13.84s: fab_app_name : DVDFab.exe
                  0m 13.84s: fab_client_type : 10
                  0m 13.84s: product_name : DVDFab
                  0m 13.84s: test_url : http://www.dvdfab.cn
                  0m 13.84s: down_url : http://www.dvdfab.cn/download.htm?ver=9
                  0m 13.84s: current_version_type : Official
                  0m 13.84s: update_temp_path : C:/Users/Gaither/Documents/DVDFab9/Temp/updateTemp/
                  0m 13.84s: current_version : 9153
                  0m 13.84s: language_name : ENU
                  0m 13.84s: qm_file : C:/Program Files/DVDFab 9 US/QLanguage/FabQt_ENU.qm
                  0m 13.84s: allow_beta : false
                  0m 13.95s: Init process: init main ui successful.
                  0m 14.25s: Init process: show main ui successful.
                  0m 14.25s: DriveX msg: Init driveX E with I/O mode: 0
                  0m 14.26s: DriveX msg: Init driveX F with I/O mode: 0
                  0m 14.35s: opening drive F
                  0m 14.35s: opened i/o
                  0m 14.35s: got media type 4
                  0m 14.43s: got max lba 4037724
                  0m 14.44s: got disc type 10
                  0m 14.48s: type DVD-VIDEO
                  0m 14.48s: volume label COSMOS_06
                  0m 14.49s: DriveX msg: add media in driveX F.
                  0m 14.49s: DriveX msg: send open media msg to thread for driveX F.
                  0m 17.14s: opening drive E
                  0m 17.19s: opened i/o
                  0m 17.20s: Source manager: add source id 0.
                  0m 17.21s: Source open statusVD Yes, 2017-6-14
                  0m 17.21s: Source open status:BD Yes, 2158-1-1
                  0m 17.22s: internal path F:/VIDEO_TS/
                  0m 17.26s: got copyright 1 c0
                  0m 17.87s: got udf/iso
                  0m 18.34s: got discinfo
                  0m 18.35s: pathplayer enabled
                  0m 18.79s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_3 cell_1 sector_994 count_7
                  0m 18.87s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_9 cell_1 sector_1653 count_6
                  0m 28.87s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_10 cell_1 sector_2312 count_6
                  0m 28.92s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_12 cell_1 sector_4271 count_7
                  0m 28.97s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_13 cell_1 sector_5160 count_7
                  0m 29.01s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_14 cell_1 sector_6049 count_7
                  0m 29.54s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_11 cell_1 sector_3210 count_12
                  0m 29.77s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_17 cell_1 sector_25 count_1
                  0m 29.99s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_15 cell_1 sector_44401 count_7
                  0m 30.03s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_16 cell_1 sector_45292 count_7
                  0m 30.08s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_84 cell_1 sector_46179 count_7
                  0m 30.80s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_42 cell_1 sector_21365 count_6
                  0m 30.85s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_43 cell_1 sector_20468 count_6
                  0m 30.90s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_45 cell_1 sector_22027 count_7
                  0m 30.95s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_46 cell_1 sector_22916 count_7
                  0m 31.00s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_47 cell_1 sector_23806 count_7
                  0m 31.89s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_44 cell_1 sector_19410 count_12
                  0m 32.20s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_50 cell_1 sector_24678 count_1
                  0m 32.44s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_48 cell_1 sector_55948 count_7
                  0m 32.50s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_49 cell_1 sector_56840 count_7
                  0m 32.58s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_87 cell_1 sector_48841 count_7
                  0m 33.31s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_75 cell_1 sector_40073 count_6
                  0m 33.37s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_76 cell_1 sector_39175 count_6
                  0m 33.43s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_78 cell_1 sector_40735 count_7
                  0m 33.50s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_79 cell_1 sector_41624 count_7
                  0m 33.57s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_80 cell_1 sector_42514 count_7
                  0m 34.16s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_77 cell_1 sector_38116 count_12
                  0m 34.44s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_83 cell_1 sector_43386 count_1
                  0m 34.66s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_81 cell_1 sector_61279 count_7
                  0m 34.72s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_82 cell_1 sector_62170 count_7
                  0m 34.79s: button: vts_1 menu_1 pgc_90 cell_1 sector_51503 count_7
                  0m 46.57s: got dvdinfo
                  0m 46.75s: opened dvd
                  0m 46.76s: Source manager: open successful.
                  0m 46.84s: Work manager: create DVD fulldisc work 0 with source 0 and uiinfo 0.
                  1m 05.73s: UILog:OnMsgToolbar_Start
                  1m 05.73s: UILog:Msg Start : ready start
                  1m 05.73s: UILog:Msg Start : start test run work
                  1m 05.74s: UILog:right button to null, work falg = -1
                  1m 05.75s: UILog:Msg Start : run work
                  1m 05.75s: UILog:Run current Work.
                  1m 05.75s: UILog:Begin work copy or converter.
                  1m 05.76s: UILog:start running at thread.
                  1m 05.77s: UILog:return flag at start running at thread ok.
                  1m 05.85s: UILog:MsgWork:WorkStatus_Start
                  1m 05.87s: DVD Copy
                  1m 05.87s: Source: F:/
                  1m 05.87s: SourceSize: 7885 MB
                  1m 05.87s: OutputSize: 8100 MB
                  12m 21.17s: DriveX msg: remove media in driveX F.
                  12m 21.89s: UILog:MsgWork:current work finish : 3
                  12m 21.97s: UILog:Run Work to end.
                  12m 21.97s: connect 0 : start.
                  12m 22.34s: connect 0 : 1:1
                  12m 36.28s: Exit process: stop running.
                  12m 36.31s: Exit process: preview pfn_releaseplayer end
                  12m 36.40s: Exit process: preview pfn_deinit end
                  12m 36.43s: Exit process: preview FreeLibrary end
                  0m 00.04s:

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                    #10
                    Try disabling pathplayer in the dvdfab settings

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                      #11
                      First log looks like path player was enabled but didn't run second log Path player ran and the output size shows bigger.

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                        #12
                        Okay, here are the latest results regarding copying discs that are part of a series. The series I'm working on is the Carl Sagan Cosmos 7 disc series and these latest tests were done on the final disc, disc 7. The first full copy was done using DVDFab v9.1.4.5 with Path Player Enabled and the result was a perfect copy including the main and ALL sub menus. The log file for this test is named as follows:

                        Full Copy_CosmosD7_DVDFab v9.1.4.5.txt.

                        NOTE - Full Copies of two (2) other discs in this series - Discs 2 and 3 - were done while DVDFab v9.1.4.5 was open so consequently the log file contains the information related to these copies before the part that pertains to Disc 7. I didn't know precisely where to begin copying this information so as to include only data on Disc 7 so I decided to send the entire log for that session as I'm sure you will be able to quickly find whatever information you need.

                        The second full copy was done using DVDFab v9.1.5.3US with Path Player Enabled and the result was perfect copies of the two episodes and the Main Menu but ALL remaining sub menus were missing. The log file for this test is named as follows:

                        Full Copy_CosmosD7_DVDFab v9.1.5.3US (Path Player Enabled).txt

                        The third and final full copy was done using DVDFab v9.1.5.3US with Path Player Disabled and the result was a perfect copy including the main and ALL sub menus. The log file for this test is named as follows:

                        Full Copy_CosmosD7_DVDFab v9.1.5.3US (Path Player Disabled).txt

                        So it appears that you were correct when you suggested that for series discs one should disable Path Player. And while I intend to follow that suggestion for any future series discs that I want to copy, I'm still going to keep v9.1.4.5 available on the desktop just in case I run into a problem that can't be solved by disabling Path Player.

                        Hope this information helps you figure out a way to correct this problem so that users don't have to reconfigure their software every time they wish to copy discs that are part of a series.

                        sleeper1428
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                        Last edited by sleeper1428; 06-21-2014, 10:30 PM. Reason: Added explanation regarding one attached file

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                          #13
                          Hi,
                          Please offer us the purchase link and source's info, thanks!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by geilee View Post
                            Hi,
                            Please offer us the purchase link and source's info, thanks!
                            I received this 7 disc set as a gift so I have no way of knowing where it was purchased. But this begs the question of how could the source of the purchase possibly aid in discovering why having Path Player Enabled causes v9.1.5.3US to skip certain portions (ALL submenus) of series discs in Full Copy Mode?

                            sleeper1428

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                              #15
                              It is so the developers can obtain the same disc from the same location to investigate the cause of the problem.
                              How to post the internal log


                              Things should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.
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