Can't read burned dl's on one specific dvd player

[papawhacked]

I'm having a problem reading dual layer discs that I copy w/ dvdfab, but only on one dvd player. Everything I burn will play fine on one of my dvd players, but won't play on another one.

I didn't post any logs because I this didn't seem like a session specific situation. Is this just an issue with the dvd player I'm trying to use? Just needs to be replaced, or are there any changes to my rip/burn settings that might help this?

Fwiw, I'm using a 'paid' copy of 6.2.2.0 and currently using some Sony +r dl's, trying to burn at 2x, but I get this problem on any media I use, any speed. My pc and my 'other' dvd player can play the burned result fine, but my 'main' dvd player can't. Its a magnavox mwr 20v6.

[W&B]

Considering you reported they play fine on the computer and another stand alone, the magnavox mwr 20v6 sure sounds suspect.
Have any dual layer back ups played on it before? If not check the specs and make sure it supports the blank media.

[papawhacked]

Well, no dual layers that I've burned play on it, but aren't all of the movies that I'm buying and trying to backup already dual layer? Thats why I was a bit confused as to why this one player is having a problem.

[W&B]

I checked the specs and that player should play +r dl media. Might try installing ImgBurn (link in my sig) it has much better control of the write speed than the included VSO burn engine.

[papawhacked]

Actually I did install imgburn thinking that might help, but all of my dl burn attempts with that fail. I just assumed that was some kind of problem with my imgburn install, since my dvdfab dl burns w/ the vso engine work fine (at least on everything but the magnavox).

I guess its 'log' time? Which ones should I include?

Thanks in advance for the help, especially w/ looking up the specs for my magnavox. Impressive support.

edit: when I mean my imgburn things 'fail', they don't actually burn. I get a 'set LO data zone capacity failed' error.

[W&B]

Post the Imgurn log, we'll take a look and see if anything needs "adjusted"

[maineman]

Maybe you just need to bitset the DL media in order to be compatible (playable) with the magnavox

It's peculiar that Img fails and VSO does not.
It sounds like it has trouble setting the layer break...could just be lousy media or maybe a firmware issue

Please both burn logs from both burn engines.
Is the media that fails to burn with Img still writable?

[papawhacked]

Maineman - yes, the media that gets the 'set LO data zone capacity failed' error can still be written to. Its like it never starts the writing, because the discs that get this error still appear to be unused.

I just tried 2 more backups, and of course for the first time, (at least on the second backup) I didn't get the LO data zone capacity error', but I still have the same problem. The copy can play on my pc and one of my dvd players, but not the suspect Magnavox.
I did get the 'zone capacity' error on the first try as well, but I just hit the 'continue' button and imgburn went on to burn the disc. The end result was the same as all of the dvd9's I've burned w/ the VSO engine thing.

I've uploaded my latest log file.

To recap, any dvd5's that I burn with the VSO or imgburn all work fine on any player.

The dvd9's that I burn with the VSO work fine on 2 players, but fail on one, my 'main' player. (the magnavox)

I've tried to burn about 10 or so dvd9's with Imgburn, all but one got the LO zone capacity error'. Of the one time I hit continue, it burned the disc, but the result was the same as with my VSO burns - works fine in everything but my Magnavox.

[CBR929]

papawhacked open up Fab click green check on top go to DVD/BluRay / write and make sure set book type to DVD Rom is checked

[maineman]

I'm almost surprised this media plays ok...I gave up being surprised a long time ago...
Moser Baer made in India is not the best stuff out there.
The only consistently recommended DL media is
Verbatim +R DL, preferably made in Singapore, but the made in India stuff is better than your current choice.

As both CBR929 have suggested now, you need to bitset the +R DL media.
I don't know if your burner with its current firmware is capable of changing the booktype via Fab, but it's worth a try as CBR929 suggested.

I take a look and see what I come up with.
Knowing CBR...he's already ahead of me on this...

[maineman]

Hmmm...
Running into some trouble. It seems this burner has its share of problems.
Can you tell me the oem...LG ?, Hitachi ?.
Make and model of the pc it came in?

[papawhacked]

CBR929 - yes, book type to DVD Rom is checked.

Maineman - I'm not quite sure what you mean by saying I need to 'bitset the +r DL media'?
Also, the burner is from a Gateway GT4010 MC.

[DarthCopier]

CBR929 - yes, book type to DVD Rom is checked.

Maineman - I'm not quite sure what you mean by saying I need to 'bitset the +r DL media'?
Also, the burner is from a Gateway GT4010 MC.

If the Book-Type to DVD-ROM is set, don't worry about the other.. it's the same thing.

From what I've been able to find out, your drive was mfd. by Hitachi-LG for Gateway, and is NOT a good choice for video work.

It's extremely finicky with media (couldn't find a recommendation for any media that would work with it), and I'm surprised the results you got will play in any stand-alone player...

Rather than have you go out and spend $$$ trying different media to find one this burner likes, instead spend $40-$60 on a new, brand-name burner (Sony, Pioneer, LG, Plextor, etc.) and I think you'll find your problems disappearing.

DC

[maineman]

Hi again papa,

I'm still not sure about the booktype...
Your burn log indicates that the media was NOT bitset (booktyped) to DVD-ROM.
When did you change the setting ?

No surprise that DC and I share the same opinions about both the burner and the media...

There are minor differences between the LG vs. Hitachi brand burner.
I did figure out that yours has a Renesas R8J32007FPV chipset so that makes it Chinese manufactured...I think.
This also has me leaning to LG which is manufactured in China and Korea, but who knows?
Supposedly it should be booktype capable as an oem drive if it's Hitachi, but probably not if it's an LG.
This is really straightforward, huh?...It gets better.

I still can't figure out the firmware.
Hitachi should have a "J" in the firmware, whereas LG should have an "L"
Yours....GWA-4165B DG01...has neither, which probably is Gateway's doing

Could you take a look on the Gateway website and see if there are firmware updates for this burner and the deal with booktyping?
It drove me nuts when I tried.

In the interim, please untick the booktyping in Fab and enable booktyping in Img and post another burn log if you're willing to give it another shot
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[DarthCopier]

Hi again papa,

I'm still not sure about the booktype...
Your burn log indicates that the media was NOT bitset (booktyped) to DVD-ROM.
When did you change the setting ?

No surprise that DC and I share the same opinions about both the burner and the media...

There are minor differences between the LG vs. Hitachi brand burner.
I did figure out that yours has a Renesas R8J32007FPV chipset so that makes it Chinese manufactured...I think.
This also has me leaning to LG which is manufactured in China and Korea, but who knows?
Supposedly it should be booktype capable as an oem drive if it's Hitachi, but probably not if it's an LG.
This is really straightforward, huh?...It gets better.

I still can't figure out the firmware.
Hitachi should have a "J" in the firmware, whereas LG should have an "L"
Yours....GWA-4165B DG01...has neither, which probably is Gateway's doing

Could you take a look on the Gateway website and see if there are firmware updates for this burner and the deal with booktyping?
It drove me nuts when I tried.

In the interim, please untick the booktyping in Fab and enable booktyping in Img and post another burn log if you're willing to give it another shot
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For what it's worth, I've tried several different sites, and so far, NO ONE has been able to locate a firmware update for this drive. (Nor accurately identify the Mfr.).

It might also be worth mentioning that the drive is configured to only run under ASPI, and not SPTI, which is the Windoz and Fab default.

DC