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    Remember Me DL burning problem

    I have sucessfully ripped the DVD to the harddrive. I chose "main movie" and DVD9 size to avoid compression. I am running windows XP SP3 and have a licensed version of dvdfab.

    I determined the rip to be good as i have played it with VLC and it plays flawlessly.

    I use imgburn to burn the disk and the burn log is below. What happens it it burns fine in task 1 but when it verifies (task 2) it gets halfway or so and then an "incorrectable error" comes up. My guess is that it is happening at the layer break but I can't confirm it.

    I am using verbatim DL 8x media burning at 2.4X. I used to burn at 4X but 1 or 2 bad burns lately caused me to try burning at 2.4X which allowed good burns on the problem movies.

    I 20:16:37 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
    I 20:16:37 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
    I 20:16:37 Total Physical Memory: 2,095,084 KB - Available: 1,604,724 KB
    W 20:16:37 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
    I 20:16:37 Initialising SPTI...
    I 20:16:37 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 20:16:37 -> Drive 1 - Info: Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
    I 20:16:37 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
    I 20:17:14 Operation Started!
    I 20:17:14 Building Image Tree...
    I 20:17:14 Checking Directory Depth...
    I 20:17:14 Calculating Totals...
    I 20:17:14 Preparing Image...
    I 20:17:21 Using Layer Break LBA: 874280 -> 2052464 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 7, Cell: 7, Vob/Cell ID: 1/7, Time: 00:32:21, SPLIP: Yes)
    I 20:17:22 Checking Path Length...
    I 20:17:22 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
    I 20:17:22 Content Type: DVD Video
    I 20:17:22 Data Type: MODE1/2048
    I 20:17:22 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
    I 20:17:22 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
    I 20:17:22 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
    I 20:17:22 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    I 20:17:22 TV System: NTSC
    I 20:17:22 Size: 5,993,363,456 bytes
    I 20:17:22 Sectors: 2,926,447
    I 20:17:22 Image Size: 8,406,892,544 bytes
    I 20:17:22 Image Sectors: 4,104,928
    I 20:17:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:08
    I 20:18:00 Operation Started!
    I 20:18:00 Building Image Tree...
    I 20:18:00 Checking Directory Depth...
    I 20:18:00 Calculating Totals...
    I 20:18:00 Preparing Image...
    I 20:18:03 Using Layer Break LBA: 874280 -> 2052464 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 7, Cell: 7, Vob/Cell ID: 1/7, Time: 00:32:21, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
    I 20:18:03 Checking Path Length...
    I 20:18:03 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
    I 20:18:03 Content Type: DVD Video
    I 20:18:03 Data Type: MODE1/2048
    I 20:18:03 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
    I 20:18:03 Volume Label: REMEMBER_ME
    I 20:18:03 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
    I 20:18:03 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    I 20:18:03 TV System: NTSC
    I 20:18:03 Size: 5,993,363,456 bytes
    I 20:18:03 Sectors: 2,926,447
    I 20:18:03 Image Size: 8,406,892,544 bytes
    I 20:18:03 Image Sectors: 4,104,928
    I 20:18:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:03
    I 20:18:03 Operation Started!
    I 20:18:03 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
    I 20:18:03 Source File Sectors: 4,104,928 (MODE1/2048)
    I 20:18:03 Source File Size: 8,406,892,544 bytes
    I 20:18:03 Source File Volume Identifier: REMEMBER_ME
    I 20:18:03 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
    I 20:18:03 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
    I 20:18:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
    I 20:18:03 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
    I 20:18:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)
    I 20:18:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
    I 20:18:03 Write Mode: DVD
    I 20:18:03 Write Type: DAO
    I 20:18:03 Write Speed: 2.4x
    I 20:18:03 Link Size: Auto
    I 20:18:03 Lock Volume: Yes
    I 20:18:03 Test Mode: No
    I 20:18:03 OPC: No
    I 20:18:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 20:18:03 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
    I 20:18:03 Book Type Setting: N/A
    I 20:18:03 Advanced Settings - Force HT: N/A, Online HT: N/A, OverSpeed: N/A, SmartBurn: Yes
    I 20:18:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,052,464
    I 20:18:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary
    I 20:19:06 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
    I 20:19:06 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
    I 20:19:07 Writing LeadIn...
    I 20:19:11 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4104927)
    I 20:19:11 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4104927)
    I 20:19:11 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2052463)
    I 20:38:42 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2052464 - 4104927)
    I 20:59:17 Synchronising Cache...
    I 20:59:18 Closing Track...
    I 20:59:19 Finalising Disc...
    I 21:00:11 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 21:00:11 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_DVD_A_DS8A1H_WH66_FRIDAY-JUNE-25-2010_8-18_PM_MKM-003-00_2.4x.ibg
    I 21:00:12 Export Successfully Completed!
    I 21:00:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:42:07
    I 21:00:12 Average Write Rate: 3,413 KB/s (2.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,623 KB/s (2.6x)
    I 21:00:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 21:24:18 Waiting for device to become ready...
    I 21:24:31 Device Ready!
    I 21:24:31 Operation Started!
    I 21:24:31 Source Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
    I 21:24:31 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)
    I 21:24:31 Source Media Sectors: 4,104,928
    I 21:24:31 Source Media Size: 8,406,892,544 bytes
    I 21:24:31 Verify Against Image File: No
    I 21:24:31 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
    I 21:24:31 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4104927)
    I 21:24:31 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4104927)
    I 21:24:31 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2052463)
    I 21:36:30 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2052464 - 4104927)
    W 21:37:17 Failed to Read Sector 2196800 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 21:37:17 Sector 2196800 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    W 21:59:40 Retrying (1)...
    W 21:59:48 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 21:59:54 Failed to Read Sector 2196800 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 21:59:54 Sector 2196800 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    W 22:00:00 Failed to Read Sector 2196801 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 22:00:00 Sector 2196801 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    W 22:00:03 Failed to Read Sector 2196801 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 22:00:03 Sector 2196801 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    W 22:00:10 Failed to Read Sector 2196802 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 22:00:10 Sector 2196802 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    E 22:00:14 Failed to Read Sector 2196802 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    E 22:00:14 Sector 2196802 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
    E 22:00:14 Failed to Verify Sectors!
    I 22:00:16 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 22:00:16 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_DVD_A_DS8A1H_WH66_FRIDAY-JUNE-25-2010_8-18_PM_MKM-003-00_2.4x.ibg
    I 22:00:16 Export Successfully Completed!
    E 22:00:16 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:35:42
    I 22:00:16 Average Verify Rate: 2,051 KB/s (1.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 8,349 KB/s (6.0x)
    I 22:00:20 Close Request Acknowledged
    I 22:00:20 Closing Down...
    I 22:00:20 Shutting down SPTI...
    I 22:00:20 ImgBurn closed!
    Tags: None
    #2
    Several problems:

    W 20:16:37 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

    I'm not sure why you have this hdd/partition formatted as FAT32.
    You'll need NTFS to handle any file size > 4 GB

    See:

    NTFS vs FAT vs exFAT - NTFS.com
    http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
    Publishers and webmasters are free to reprint articles on this site. In all cases you must put the following credit on the page: Article reprinted with permission of www.NTFS.com and this line must be hyperlinked back to http://www.NTFS.com.


    You can convert this hdd/partition to NTFS without reformatting, but should you wish to revert, you would have to reformat

    Your slimline burner is less than ideal for video archiving.
    You will be far better off with an standard external drive or a standard internal drive in an external enclosure.

    While MKM 003 is good quality DL media, if you're restricted to burning at 2.4X, MKM 001 is a better choice

    Ultimately, the question to be answered is:

    Does the bkup disc play ok?
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

    You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and... blow. | Lauren Bacall | "To Have and Have Not" (1944).

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      #3
      The drive "D" is the recovery partition as setup by the disk provided by HP. All other partitions and drives are NTFS. The rip went to drive "F".

      True that a laptop slimline DVD burner is not ideal but it has been reliable. If it is a hardware problem then the answer is clear. I was just wondering if the burn log offered anything useful as to something I could do differantly or reveal a setting that would correct the problem.

      Yes, the backup DL disk does stop, start and then lock-up at chapter 8 when played on both a standalone player and with windows media player.

      As far as MKM-003 burning at 2.4X, I just slowed the burn speed down from 4.0X in an attempt to get a better burn which worked on the other two reburns. If it worked by slowing down the burn or by luck I can't say. The MKM-003 are a 8X media and using the half the burn speed rule of thumb of 4.0X has been fine up to these past few incidents.

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        #4
        Gotcha.
        Sounds like you've been throught it all and if it's working then...
        If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

        The only other item I see is:
        W 21:59:54 Failed to Read Sector 2196800 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
        W 21:59:54 Sector 2196800 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB

        You probably have done this, but at the risk of asking the obvious,
        have you tried cleaning the disc?
        Perhaps a defect in the disc?

        You can try ticking Ignore all reading errors automatically, but you were already able to "rip" the dvd so this will probably result in the same error being reproduced and glitch on the bkup.
        If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

        You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and... blow. | Lauren Bacall | "To Have and Have Not" (1944).

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          #5
          The only other item I see is:
          W 21:59:54 Failed to Read Sector 2196800 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
          W 21:59:54 Sector 2196800 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
          I think this error is in the verification phase of the burn. Does that mean that the burn and the file do not match?

          Just for giggles I did another recode with the ripped folder containing the DVD9 size and compressed it using the DVD5 setting. Then I used imgburn to burn a SL disk and it burned and verified just fine. Based on this you would think the disk and the file created from the disk were good.

          I am begining to confirm my belief that a problem occurs at the layer break. According to the log the break occurs at "Using Layer Break LBA: 874280 -> 2052464 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 7, Cell: 7, Vob/Cell ID: 1/7, Time: 00:32:21, SPLIP: Yes -> No)" which is about where the disk error occurs. Hardware or software created? I guess an external dvd burner isn't too bad to find out.

          In any case I at least have a SL backup.

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            #6
            Does ImgBurn give you the option to select a layer break position before the burn. If it does try selecting a different layer break to see if same problem. Also have you watched the original DVD to see if it has playback problem at same spot as the back up

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              #7
              Yes it does. I can try another layer break choice and see what happens. Good suggestion!

              I'll try it now and report back. It will probably take a while.

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                #8
                Ok. Changed the layer break and it errored out at the verification phase again. The burn log follows.

                I chose a layer break further into the movie and it appears to have errored further into the verification. Upon testing the disk it now locks up at chapter 11.

                So it appears to me that it has something to do with the layer break shift. Software or hardware? I guess the jury is still out. Or rather I guess I'll be the one out looking for an external burner to rule out a hardware issue.

                Here is the log if it offers any clues.

                I 14:18:56 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.0 started!
                I 14:18:56 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
                I 14:18:56 Total Physical Memory: 2,095,084 KB - Available: 1,368,304 KB
                W 14:18:56 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
                I 14:18:56 Initialising SPTI...
                I 14:18:56 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
                I 14:18:56 -> Drive 1 - Info: Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
                I 14:18:56 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
                I 14:19:33 Operation Started!
                I 14:19:33 Building Image Tree...
                I 14:19:33 Checking Directory Depth...
                I 14:19:33 Calculating Totals...
                I 14:19:33 Preparing Image...
                I 14:19:34 Checking Path Length...
                I 14:19:34 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
                I 14:19:34 Content Type: DVD Video
                I 14:19:34 Data Type: MODE1/2048
                I 14:19:34 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
                I 14:19:34 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
                I 14:19:34 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
                I 14:19:34 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
                I 14:19:34 TV System: NTSC
                I 14:19:34 Size: 5,993,363,456 bytes
                I 14:19:34 Sectors: 2,926,447
                I 14:19:34 Image Size: 5,993,988,096 bytes
                I 14:19:34 Image Sectors: 2,926,752
                I 14:19:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
                I 14:27:37 Operation Started!
                I 14:27:37 Building Image Tree...
                I 14:27:37 Checking Directory Depth...
                I 14:27:37 Calculating Totals...
                I 14:27:37 Preparing Image...
                I 14:27:59 Using Layer Break LBA: 1603101 -> 1603104 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Chapter: 11, Cell: 11, Vob/Cell ID: 1/11, Time: 00:59:18, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
                I 14:27:59 Checking Path Length...
                I 14:27:59 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
                I 14:27:59 Content Type: DVD Video
                I 14:27:59 Data Type: MODE1/2048
                I 14:27:59 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
                I 14:27:59 Volume Label: REMEMBER_ME
                I 14:27:59 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
                I 14:27:59 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
                I 14:27:59 TV System: NTSC
                I 14:27:59 Size: 5,993,363,456 bytes
                I 14:27:59 Sectors: 2,926,447
                I 14:27:59 Image Size: 5,993,988,096 bytes
                I 14:27:59 Image Sectors: 2,926,752
                I 14:27:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:22
                I 14:27:59 Operation Started!
                I 14:27:59 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
                I 14:27:59 Source File Sectors: 2,926,752 (MODE1/2048)
                I 14:27:59 Source File Size: 5,993,988,096 bytes
                I 14:27:59 Source File Volume Identifier: REMEMBER_ME
                I 14:27:59 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.1.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
                I 14:27:59 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
                I 14:27:59 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
                I 14:27:59 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
                I 14:27:59 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)
                I 14:27:59 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
                I 14:27:59 Write Mode: DVD
                I 14:27:59 Write Type: DAO
                I 14:27:59 Write Speed: 2.4x
                I 14:27:59 Link Size: Auto
                I 14:27:59 Lock Volume: Yes
                I 14:27:59 Test Mode: No
                I 14:27:59 OPC: No
                I 14:27:59 BURN-Proof: Enabled
                I 14:27:59 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
                I 14:27:59 Book Type Setting: N/A
                I 14:27:59 Advanced Settings - Force HT: N/A, Online HT: N/A, OverSpeed: N/A, SmartBurn: Yes
                I 14:27:59 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,603,104
                I 14:27:59 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary
                I 14:29:07 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
                I 14:29:07 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
                I 14:29:08 Writing LeadIn...
                I 14:29:11 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2926751)
                I 14:29:11 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2926751)
                I 14:29:11 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1603103)
                I 14:44:25 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1603104 - 2926751)
                I 14:58:02 Synchronising Cache...
                I 14:58:03 Closing Track...
                I 14:58:05 Finalising Disc...
                I 15:01:33 Exporting Graph Data...
                I 15:01:33 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_DVD_A_DS8A1H_WH66_SUNDAY-JUNE-27-2010_2-27_PM_MKM-003-00_2.4x.ibg
                I 15:01:33 Export Successfully Completed!
                I 15:01:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:33:34
                I 15:01:33 Average Write Rate: 3,383 KB/s (2.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,623 KB/s (2.6x)
                I 15:01:33 Cycling Tray before Verify...
                W 15:01:50 Waiting for device to become ready...
                I 15:02:08 Device Ready!
                I 15:02:08 Operation Started!
                I 15:02:08 Source Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype DVD A DS8A1H WH66 (E (ATA)
                I 15:02:08 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)
                I 15:02:08 Source Media Sectors: 2,926,752
                I 15:02:08 Source Media Size: 5,993,988,096 bytes
                I 15:02:08 Verify Against Image File: No
                I 15:02:08 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
                I 15:02:08 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2926751)
                I 15:02:08 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2926751)
                I 15:02:08 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1603103)
                I 15:12:11 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1603104 - 2926751)
                W 15:12:25 Failed to Read Sector 1603104 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
                W 15:12:25 Sector 1603104 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
                E 15:12:48 Failed to Read Sector 1603104 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
                E 15:12:48 Sector 1603104 maps to File: \VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
                E 15:12:48 Failed to Verify Sectors!
                I 15:12:50 Exporting Graph Data...
                I 15:12:50 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Dad\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_DVD_A_DS8A1H_WH66_SUNDAY-JUNE-27-2010_2-27_PM_MKM-003-00_2.4x.ibg
                I 15:12:50 Export Successfully Completed!
                E 15:12:50 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:10:39
                I 15:12:50 Average Verify Rate: 5,017 KB/s (3.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 7,535 KB/s (5.4x)
                I 15:15:40 Close Request Acknowledged
                I 15:15:40 Closing Down...
                I 15:15:41 Shutting down SPTI...
                I 15:15:41 ImgBurn closed!

                EDIT - To answer the question of if the source disk plays ok the answer is yes. It plays flawlessly on both players.
                Last edited by Keledole; 06-27-2010, 07:40 PM. Reason: To answer a question more fully

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                  #9
                  Another write speed might give you better results.

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                    #10
                    What do you recommend? The medium is rated at 8X. Currently burning at 2.4X

                    Comment

                      #11
                      Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x

                      Either 4x or 6x are possible options.

                      Comment

                        #12
                        Ok. I'll try at 4X and see what happens.

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                          #13
                          Just wanted to report that burning at 4X and changing nothing else created a sucessful burn.

                          Thanks for the help. I hope this solves it!

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                            #14
                            Go figure...
                            Initially you burned at 4X , but reduced to 2.4X for problem movies.
                            Now you're back to 4X for the problem disc and having good results.
                            I swear sometimes this stuff is like voodoo.

                            Anyway, we're glad to hear you have success.
                            As I said before, I really think that 2.4X is too slow for the MKM 003 discs (not that you can't try and get lucky though).

                            You just might find that the MKM 001 media (2.4X-4X) is a better fit with this burner and firmware
                            If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

                            You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and... blow. | Lauren Bacall | "To Have and Have Not" (1944).

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