Apple TV: Now with sound but not multichannel

[signals]

Because it is the policy. Mmasse, this applies to you as well. Your post has been edited to remove the offending comments. We do not debate forum policies.

Don't see why.

For one, DVDfab does not do the meta-tagging So that product is definitely a compliment to DVDfab. The other product has been mentioned in these forums so many times I can't count. I was just trying to give advice as to how to use DVDfab to rip the disk and then get to a format that ATV can actually play...reliably.

I for one have never been able to do that directly with DVDfab (at least I havenot been able to since Apple changed their software around 4.1 or so), and I do not see many others either,.

[mmasse44]

I've resorted to using another app that doesn't allow for video passthru (only AC3 passthru), but it creates the stereo track needed for use with iPad, etc. It's a colossal waste of time to re-encode the video (and lose quality in the process), but at least the resulting m4v file has working surround in AppleTV . The video quality looks good, but again--passthru would be amazingly cool (and probably simple).

So yeah, a free program can do this, and even takes the added unnecessary step to re-encode the video.

It's too bad that this very expensive program I paid for, DVDFab, can't do what this free app does. C'mon, give us video and AC3 passthru with stereo audio creation, and working 5.1 on AppleTV. It *really* can't be that hard.

[squitzad]

Any updates?

[timmymac123]

Don't see why.

For one, DVDfab does not do the meta-tagging So that product is definitely a compliment to DVDfab. The other product has been mentioned in these forums so many times I can't count. I was just trying to give advice as to how to use DVDfab to rip the disk and then get to a format that ATV can actually play...reliably.

I for one have never been able to do that directly with DVDfab (at least I havenot been able to since Apple changed their software around 4.1 or so), and I do not see many others either,.

[90312]

Timmymac123, I deleted your post, we do not discuss the proper use of other vendor's software here on DVDFab's forum.

[squitzad]

I agree with vschoell as well!

ATV might be crappy in some senses but it's easy to use for everyone in the family.
I previously used my PS3 for this but due to Canvia I changed to ATV.
The only thing needed here is ripping/conversion profile that will let you add 2 audio tracks.
I usually burn the subs directly or use suitable language for kids movies.
But if the profile would also let you choose subs or language etc that would be fantastic!

So please, Dear DVDFab team can you make a profile better suited for ATV, at least supporting?
Audio 1. AAC 2ch
Audio 2. AC3 6 ch

Please!!!

[mmasse44]

I'm totally with vschoell on this one. I bought the BD Ripper for the express purpose of creating 5.1 movies for Apple TV from my Blu-Rays. I don't want to exclude the stereo audio track as a workaround, because then I won't have the option of watching the movies with audio on my iPad.

I guess I'm the dumb one for paying for this software without confirming that an advertised feature worked. I've used free software to try to create my own mp4's, but to no avail. Even with a stereo aac and the 5.1 ac3 tracks, I only get stereo through AppleTV HDMI (and since video is also passing through my receiver via HDMI, I don't have a routing option for an optical cable). I trusted that DVDFab would resolve this issue for me. No such luck, I guess.

So as of now, if you're looking for a Blu-Ray ripper solution for AppleTV, keep looking.

[vschoell]

Work on it ?

Hello DVDFab Team,

are you still working on a solution (DD 5.1 and Stereo, profile apple tv3) or do you stop working on it ? Can you please give me an info.

Thanks and greetings

vschoell

[mmasse44]

I haven't had any luck with getting AppleTV3 to play any of my homegrown mp4's. I've extracted the video and audio from mkv's, created a stereo aac mixdown as the first audio stream and the ac3 as the second (as described by a previous post). No matter what I do, AppleTV only plays back stereo. But it always plays back surround on movies I've bought from iTunes.

I'd just be happy to get these mp4's working on AppleTV using *any* software. I seriously don't know what I'm doing wrong.

[cjlowe5]

Hi Guys,

Just like to put my 2 cents worth in here also.

iCrap it may be, but ATV is popular and so easy to use even my wife can watch a movie on it (she can't program the Tivo but she can make the ATV work!).
I am a very very happy long time user of DVDFab way back to my purchase of version 5 but I too am disappointed that DVDFab cannot produce a relatively simple mp4 file that plays on my ATV with multi channel sound that plays through my perfectly good home theatre system.

I don't want yet another device to play a rip that DVDFab should get working as a matter of pride, just look at the volume of posts about this issue in the forums - users want this feature to work - period.
All the dodging and weaving is just making DVDFab look bad - Fengtao, if it is a matter of expense I will send you my ATV to test with you can have it, just please please make this work.

Thanks

[vschoell]

Hey guys,

i don't want to go around the problem. Sorry to say: i want a solution with my first love rip software DVDFab and my first love hardware AppleTV3. Sure i can use the hb software, but i want to save one step. So i bought a software for about 80 € (Fab DVD Ripper/BD Ripper) to do that job. If someone from DVD Fab Team say: No way with icrap, i don't renew the licence for the ripper part of Fab. It's so easy.

Perhaps the Fab Team can look after it? Thanks.

vschoell

[andymac1966]

I don't really agree with all the 'flaming' that the ATV has been given in this thread - it's a simple device that works well within the known limitations that Apple have set. This suits some people.

In terms of getting BD's ripped for viewing on an ATV, I've found it easier to simply rip a BD to an HD mkv file (so I can view it on Plex etc on the media players I have that support it), then use other software to use the mkv file to produce m4v file suitable for ATV 2 or 3. Works well enough and multi channel audio works just fine through my HDMI 1.3.

Andy

[akadennis]

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4?

1.4

[miltonberger]

Guys....

A lot of the problem is caused by the way the iCrap handles things and lack of understanding on Fab's part how it should be handled. Also, A/V receivers provides little/no support for AAC decoding and will not give multi-channel sound output when connected using HDMI passthrough.

I have just checked the latest version 9 DVD Ripper and can confirm that this is still the case.

The proper way to encode files for the ATV's is as follows:-

1. There should be 2 audio tracks contained in the file (Fab does not do this)
2. The first track should be AAC STEREO
3. A second track should be AC-3 6 Channel (Dolby Digital). This will be used automatically by the ATV only if the A/V Receiver is connected by OPTICAL cable. DTS is NOT supported by the ATV.

So here are your options:-

A. Get rid of the ATV crap and buy a media player that supports industry standard audio tracks. I say this after about 10 years of experience and at least 50 models of media players tested. For under $100, you can grab a media player that sh1ts all over the iCrap.
B. Use free software that has been able to do this properly for the last 3 years. I have continually asked Fab to implement multiple audio, multiple subs and chapter marks contained with the file using DVD Ripper to no avail.

NB: with option B, you still MUST connect you iCrap via OPTICAL cable.

Dear Gregiboy, there is an option that works with Apple TV, although needing a bit of manipulation, which was decribed in my post above on 01-10-2013, 12:43 AM.

[GregiBoy]

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4?