Ripping blu-ray to MKV with DVDFab

[Nik_Simpson]

I'm running an older version of DVDFAB, 8.22, with a Blu-Ray Ripper and Blu-Ray 3D license. The screenshot given of how to get a lossless MKV was from version 9. How do you do this on the older version?

I've tried:
mkv.h264.mp3
mkv.h264.audiocopy
DVDfab.hdvideoMP3.mkv.h264.ac3

with encoding set to 1 and 2 passes.

The quality of the video is clearly not lossless and the file size it generates is between 750MB and 1.2GB.

Advice?
Thanks!

Your getting 750MB to 1.2GB BluRay Rips, I'm not surprised they don't look great. You must have limited the file size or bitrate for your rips to something ridiculously low. For me using mkv.h264.audiocopy with a bitrate around 8-9mbps I get files around 10GB, and they look great on my 60" plasma.

[peterden@live.com]

How do get lossless video in v8.22?

I'm running an older version of DVDFAB, 8.22, with a Blu-Ray Ripper and Blu-Ray 3D license. The screenshot given of how to get a lossless MKV was from version 9. How do you do this on the older version?

I've tried:
mkv.h264.mp3
mkv.h264.audiocopy
DVDfab.hdvideoMP3.mkv.h264.ac3

with encoding set to 1 and 2 passes.

The quality of the video is clearly not lossless and the file size it generates is between 750MB and 1.2GB.

Advice?
Thanks!

[90312]

Try this to see if it doesn't get you what you want. And I was sure it worked for me, I learned long ago not to bet on what works for others.

[roghelt]

I'm glad it worked for you and didn't make me look too bad!

You knew when you made the suggestion you had a "sure bet".

BTW, I haven't figured out yet (if possible) how to prevent the "mkv" folder and rip my MKVs directly to my default folder. It's not a huge deal -- I just have to cut & paste the move and delete "mkv" directory.

[Nik_Simpson]

Thanks for the tip! My only concern is that mkv.h264 would probably take way more time to rip a blu-ray due to the compression process. But I'll definitely give it a try when I don't need to use my pc for a few hours.

Depends on hardware, but my Ivy-Bridge-based laptop typically rips & compresses BluRay at ~100 frames/sec, which for a 24fps movie means that it does it at around 4x real time playback, so time isn't that big a factor.

[90312]

I'm glad it worked for you and didn't make me look too bad!

[roghelt]

I have an Ivy Bridge 3770 and using Intel Quick Sync. The result is 14+GB down from 34.8GB and I really can't tell the difference. Let us know how you get on.

Well, my i7 is a generation behind your Ivy Bridge, so ripping "Kill Bill 1" with mkv.h264.audiocopy took about 50+ minutes and generated a 17gb MKV; with mkv.passthrough it took 19 minutes and resulted in a 36gb file.

But you're absolutely right. Doing an a/b comparison on the Oppo (thanks to its great interface), I was amazed to find I couldn't tell a significant difference (with a Samsung F7500 55" panel) between my original bd DVD and the h264.audiocopy version...wow!! You've made a believer of me!

In the future, I'll probably keep my fast-action hi-res movies at lossless...just because...but most of my current and future blu-ray movies will be compressed MKVs. This'll save some valuable real estate and keep me from adding another HD for a very long time.

Thanks again..DVDFab rocks!!!!!!

[90312]

I have an Ivy Bridge 3770 and using Intel Quick Sync. The result is 14+GB down from 34.8GB and I really can't tell the difference. Let us know how you get on.

[roghelt]

In ripper when you click the profile bar click the format tab at the top and then the mkv button along the left side. See attached:

And it may not take as long as you think I just completed The Hobbit from the disc in 35 minutes with my rig.

Ahhh...found it, thanks again! So many sub-features in DVDFab; but that's why it's such a terrific and versatile program.

35 minutes for a compressed MKV? Wow...you must have some rig. I'll give it a try tonight and report back on how long it'll take to rip something like The Hobbit (don't have that one) as well...most important...on how the quality appears to match up with lossless.

[90312]

In ripper when you click the profile bar click the format tab at the top and then the mkv button along the left side. See attached:

And it may not take as long as you think I just completed The Hobbit from the disc in 35 minutes with my rig.

[roghelt]

@90312: I tried to add a PS to my previous post but couldn't find the edit button. Sorry...

Wanted to locate the mkv.h264.audiocopy profile. All I could find was "mkv.h264" and a separate "audio.copy" format that appears to be for audio only. How does one combine them? Or did you just mean "mkv.h264"?

Sorry to be such a noobie bother...

[roghelt]

You might try mkv.h264.audiocopy as well, it will keep your HD audio and save a ton of file size. Most folks can't tell the difference I sure can't. Experiment a little.

Thanks for the tip! My only concern is that mkv.h264 would probably take way more time to rip a blu-ray due to the compression process. But I'll definitely give it a try when I don't need to use my pc for a few hours.

[SeeMoreDigital]

It seems that the DLNA spec requires that the H.264 video be High Level 4.0. Blu-ray videos are High Level 4.1 and will not play via DLNA. The HL4.0 spec means that in many cases the bitrate will be too high. Recoding to a lower bitrate @ High Level 4.0 will be a must. Not even sure if loseless audio will work. I've been trying to find the DLNA spec, but the official website is lacking in specification info. I've discovered the issues via my Samsung BR player.

I store all my .MKV contained 'movie only' (1:1) Blu-ray disc back-ups on an NTFS formatted external HDD, which is connected via USB3 to my Synology NAS and passed over a 10/100 wired network and switch-gear.

My Oppo BDP-103 and LG 32LS570T TV don't any problems playing any of my movies via UPnP.

Cheers

[90312]

You might try mkv.h264.audiocopy as well, it will keep your HD audio and save a ton of file size. Most folks can't tell the difference I sure can't. Experiment a little.

[roghelt]

Wow! It worked like a charm. Yes, the MKVs were indeed lossless AND very large...but I expected that. With 8 TB of space, I can probably accommodate about 350 blu-ray lossless MKVs before adding any more HDDs.

I ripped 2 of my blu-rays to MKV with DVDFab's ripper component, "Blade Runner" and "Casino". It took about 35-45 minutes (with all HD audio streams, no compression) to process each movie, pretty fast for 24-32 gigs per blu-ray. The streaming quality to my Oppo 105 player is superb! I did an A/B comparison while playing the DLNA movie stream and my original blu-ray DVDs -- the quality (picture and audio) is indistinguishable between the two!

Let me repeat: WOW! My only dilemma now is whether to buy the standalone DVDFab Blu-ray Ripper (3D Plus) or DVDFab All-In-One. Virtually all of my blu-ray needs will be transferring movies to network attached servers -- I don't really have any desire to backup my blu-ray DVDs, no kids in the house to wreck them

Thanks for a fabulous product!