I tried (again) the latest version (11.0.3.1) to see if output size is right. Guess what, always the same issue... it's hopeless !
With UHD Creator from 4K MKV with DTS-HD MA tracks - target size BD25 >>> output after fit to disc conversion : 12.8 Gb !!!
One year and many many updates, the problem is still unresolved. See the attached log
On line : info: bd creator: set video_bitrate = 12486 (- instead of 18188 calculated bitrate)
What are you waiting to fix the video bitrate issue ? I repeat again, with UHD Copy, no problem at all... only with BD / UHD creator
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So how is it that this team can have customized bitrates in Version 9, but after a year can't fix it in version 10 or 11??? I'm very puzzled.
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One year later and no solution...
To resume :
- The output size occurs especially with Dolby True HD audio tracks - less with DTS tracks
- This problem is present with UHD Creator and Bluray Creator
- Impossible to set video bitrate manually
- issue occurs with hardware and software encoding
- Also there often frozen subtitles issues
- With Bluray or UHD Copier > no problem at all. The size is perfect every times !
I'm sure its a bitrate calculation issue when UHD / BD Creator needs add ac3 core to True HD stream, to make it compliant to UHD / BD.
Devs, what are you waiting to resolve this very annoying issue ?!
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bug still here in 11.0.1.8 and now we are into March. Is creator intended to work above 40 mbps? does anybody know?
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Tried with version 11.0.1.5 - bug always here
What are you waiting for to resolve this issue ?
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I confirm that this problem still exists in 11.0.1.2
I cut off about 5 minutes from 2 MKV's and applied Creator at different bit rates:
1/ Oblivion (2013) 2160p 4K UltraHD BluRay (x265 HEVC 10bit) DTSHD En DTS-HRA-DDR
Media info:General Unique ID : 54408157726795472063794281672818974831 (0x28EEA148E46C6CA1B17FD6A7F396606F) Complete name : I:\BlurayUHD\Oblivion (2013) 2160p 4K UltraHD BluRay (x265 HEVC 10bit) DTSHD En DTS-HRA-DDR-tenzin (1)-001.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 2.16 GiB Duration : 5 min 1 s Overall bit rate : 61.5 Mb/s Movie name : Oblivion 2013 Encoded date : UTC 2019-01-06 02:11:26 Writing application : mkvmerge v30.1.0 ('Forever And More') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9 Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L6.1@Main Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 5 min 1 s Bit rate : 57.2 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.288 Stream size : 2.01 GiB (93%) Writing library : x265 1.9+3-63308f7658c3:[Windows][GCC 5.2.0][64 bit] 10bit Encoding settings : wpp / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / max-tu-size=32 / tu-intra-depth=1 / tu-inter-depth=1 / me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57 / no-rect / no-amp / max-merge=2 / temporal-mvp / no-early-skip / rdpenalty=0 / no-tskip / no-tskip-fast / strong-intra-smoothing / no-lossless / no-cu-lossless / no-constrained-intra / no-fast-intra / open-gop / no-temporal-layers / interlace=0 / keyint=240 / min-keyint=24 / scenecut=40 / rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=8 / bframes=4 / bframe-bias=0 / b-adapt=2 / ref=3 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / weightp / no-weightb / aq-mode=1 / qg-size=32 / aq-strength=1.00 / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rd=3 / psy-rd=2.00 / rdoq-level=0 / psy-rdoq=0.00 / signhide / deblock / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / b-pyramid / cutree / no-intra-refresh / rc=abr / bitrate=61000 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.601 results:Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / Core Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 4 min 42 s Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant Bit rate : 4 652 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy Delay relative to video : 19 s 495 ms Stream size : 156 MiB (7%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No
same as input: 40.7 mbps, 1.43GB, Creator estimated size 2.05 GB
60 mbps 40.7 mbps, 1.43 GB, Creator estimated size 2.19 GB
50 mbps 40.7 mbps 1.43 GB, Creator estimated size 1.83 GB
40 mbps 37.4 mbps 1.41 GB, Creator estimated size 1.46 GB
30 mbps 30.1 mbps, 1.05 GB, Creator estimated size 1.10 GB
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2/Star.Wars.4K77.2160p.UHD.no-DNR.35mm.x265-v1.0
Media info:General Unique ID : 167122084181476543220350538862564636172 (0x7DBA8AE9C1D46C78DC89E24C7272760C) Complete name : I:\BlurayUHD\Star.Wars.4K77.2160p.UHD.no-DNR.35mm.x265-v1.0\05-Star.Wars.4K77.2160p.UHD.no-DNR.35mm.x265-v1.0 (2)-001.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 3.17 GiB Duration : 5 min 0 s Overall bit rate : 90.6 Mb/s Movie name : Star Wars 4 Encoded date : UTC 2019-01-06 07:53:03 Writing application : mkvmerge v30.1.0 ('Forever And More') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9 results:Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 5 min 0 s Bit rate : 90.6 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.455 Stream size : 3.17 GiB (100%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No
Same As Input: 42.4 mbps, 1.48GB, Creator estimated size 2.19 GB
60 mbps 42.4 mbps, 1.48 GB, Creator estimated size 2.19 GB
50 mbps 42.4 mbps 1.48 GB, Creator estimated size 1.82 GB
42.4 mbps 40.4 mbps 1.44 GB, Creator estimated size 1.54 GB
40 mbps 30.1 mbps, 1.41 GB, Creator estimated size 1.46 GB
I can't help but wonder if Creator only works at or below about 40 mbps output
Hope the problem can be solved soon.
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Originally posted by gantz View PostPassthrough mode fix subtitle problem?
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Tested with 11.0.0.8. Again output size issue with True HD tracks
To make UHD's from MKV, i have a temporary solution :
If the movie is at 3840x2160 in HDR. I use UHD Creator in passtrough mode. Then with resulted UHD files, i recode it with DVDFab Copier / Full disc.
With that "solution", i can make UHD with True HD Atmos (or DTS-MA) with a correct output size. That works mostly every times...
So why, UHD Creator can't create UHD with good size while Copier can ?
When this bug will be resolved ?
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I just made tests with latest DVDFab 64 11.0.0.1 - with software only encoding. Same problem. But the issue occurs especially with TrueHD / Atmos tracks. With DTS-HD, all seems right (also with hardware encoding).
It's True HD audio tracks wich cause the wrong bitrate issue.
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I tested the new DVD Fab x64 v11 beta - bitrate problem still there
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They have said they are working on it. These continued rants serve no purpose to speed up the process, Further posts in this thread that do not contribute to a solution will be deleted.
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I agree with Ministr49. I tried the UHD Creator trial version of DVDFAB on a high bitrate Mkv with the DTS-HD removed and the resultant UHD Bluray's bitrate (49 Mbs) was a bit better than half the original Mkv (84 MBS). There is no way I would buy such a defective product.
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Originally posted by Mona View Post
We will improve it in the future.
The problem occurs since many months ! UHD Creator is the most important new feature improvement on DVD Fab, and you really don't nothing to make it works great.
I can't wait more time. I repeat again, UHD Creator is barely usable without the bitrate fix.
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