How much Compression with a Blu Ray disc is too much?

[GregiBoy]

Now you just have to get the house and your network set up properly so you really can take advantage!!!

[btufail]

No doubt you've considered this and I'm probably preaching to the choir, but given the relative costs, why not archive to hdds?

You can pick up a 2 TB Samsung for $74.99, shipped....available at newegg until 4/28.
Throw in a media player like my Argosy for about $89 and you're way ahead.

My bet is the hdd will outlast your burned BDs.
Even so, no matter since you've always got the originals

No more expensive or "bad discs".

You'll never have to get up from your comfy chair again...not to look for or change a disc...

I've never really put much thought into that. but it's something i would consider. but i have a few questions.
1. i have an expansive collection of dvds and blu-rays. What format would i need to save the blu rays and dvds so that they will play on the argosy or some other media player? Not to mention i would need about 25-30TB to do this.
2. Will i lose any video quality during playback. Is playback similar to bd/dvd playback,eg: chapters, menus?
3. will these media players like the Argosy play HD audio and 3D?
4. Can i still playback Blu-Rays at 1080p 24hz?

[GregiBoy]

See my comments below in RED

I've never really put much thought into that. but it's something i would consider. but i have a few questions.
1. i have an expansive collection of dvds and blu-rays. What format would i need to save the blu rays and dvds so that they will play on the argosy or some other media player? Not to mention i would need about 25-30TB to do this.

You can save them as an uncompressed ISO & retain all quality but most of us use h264 MKV's. This can be compressed or uncompressed and this is a very subjective issue. You have to try it yourself. I would suggest that you will be surprised with the results.

Maineman would be best to comment on some of the results on the Argosy.

2. Will i lose any video quality during playback. Is playback similar to bd/dvd playback,eg: chapters, menus?

See above

3. will these media players like the Argosy play HD audio and 3D?

I don't know about this particular model, but there are models that I know that will play HD & 3D,,,

4. Can i still playback Blu-Rays at 1080p 24hz?

This terminology is just an advertising B/S beatup. Of course YES!!!

[DiabloZoe]

No doubt you've considered this and I'm probably preaching to the choir, but given the relative costs, why not archive to hdds?

You can pick up a 2 TB Samsung for $74.99, shipped....available at newegg until 4/28.
Throw in a media player like my Argosy for about $89 and you're way ahead.

My bet is the hdd will outlast your burned BDs.
Even so, no matter since you've always got the originals

No more expensive or "bad discs".

You'll never have to get up from your comfy chair again...not to look for or change a disc...

I have a pretty high end system and everything is run through HDMI but the receiver has 4 inputs and they are all being used. When I pick up another receiver with more inputs I probably will get with the times! I use BDRE and just erase over them I have a huge DVD/Bluray collection but only watch them one time so I thinks its a waste and don't want to collect any more movies!! Thanks for the advice!!

[GregiBoy]

Well DZ, seeing what you have said, it's got me beat why you even bother backing up your disks at all.

"I use BDRE and just erase over them I have a huge DVD/Bluray collection but only watch them one time so I thinks its a waste and don't want to collect any more movies!!"

[DiabloZoe]

Well DZ, seeing what you have said, it's got me beat why you even bother backing up your disks at all.

"I use BDRE and just erase over them I have a huge DVD/Bluray collection but only watch them one time so I thinks its a waste and don't want to collect any more movies!!"

I have all the pay channels, here in the USA and say when a new movie comes out like Predators the network will play it over and over and over and over, I have it on BDRE and at that point I can erase it and put another movie on it.

[junkman1980]

Hi to all!!!
I'm new to this forum...
Sorry, the thread is rather old but it concerns exactly my problem...
I made a Blu-Ray "movie only" backup with Expendables 2(title 684) with only the HD track and the final size it's about 24GB...
I would like to cut the endings in order to make the movie to fit in a BR single layer...
Here comes the issue: The movie is split in 17 chapters and the last one includes 10minutes of the movie as well, making impossible the cut...
Is there any option that allows me to select the title start/end settings by HH/MM/SS? otherwise the only option I have is to remove the HD audio...

any suggestion?

thank you!

Here's some screen shots on how to cut the credits







Thanks to SuperFist for pointing this out! I never noticed it before!

[Digidave]

Hi to all!!!
I'm new to this forum...
Sorry, the thread is rather old but it concerns exactly my problem...
I made a Blu-Ray "movie only" backup with Expendables 2(title 684) with only the HD track and the final size it's about 24GB...
I would like to cut the endings in order to make the movie to fit in a BR single layer...
Here comes the issue: The movie is split in 17 chapters and the last one includes 10minutes of the movie as well, making impossible the cut...
Is there any option that allows me to select the title start/end settings by HH/MM/SS? otherwise the only option I have is to remove the HD audio...

any suggestion?

thank you!

You don't necessarily have to clip the ends to make it fit on a BD25. You can have the software compress the movie to fit on your BD25. The quality will be about 98% of original. You will never see the difference.

[junkman1980]

You don't necessarily have to clip the ends to make it fit on a BD25. You can have the software compress the movie to fit on your BD25. The quality will be about 98% of original. You will never see the difference.

thanks a lot for your reply.
ok, I got your point (in this case it would be 92% compression, not so much), but that means that at the moment there is no other option than chapter selection?

[CBR929]

thanks a lot for your reply.
ok, I got your point (in this case it would be 92% compression, not so much), but that means that at the moment there is no other option than chapter selection?

Hi junkman1980
You are correct, there is not an option yet for frame by frame only chapters.
This has been requested before but has yet to be implemented into Fab.
CBR929

[glenns]

If burning a regular blu ray try burning the 24 gig file with img burn if the file is to big img burn gives two choices burn to end of disk that will cut the ending where the disk ends or over burn it will try to burn to areas of the disk not used doing this sometimes works well other times you get reading errors.Imgburn trys to record the extra data if its not much over the disk normal.I can get 23.9 gigs on a 25 gig Tdk or Digistor blu ray write once disk rewritable disks are a tad smaller and fit less data so if your disk is 24 gigs img burn should be able to burn it maybe normally if not the i would try write to end of disk first.


If burning 3d
You can use img burn with a (3d iso) if the file is a little to big img burn will tell you and ask if you want to use burn to the end of disk or over burn.If you use burn to the end of disk it may just cut the ending off where the disk runs out if you use overburn it will try to burn all of the bluray to parts of the disk not normally used sometimes you will get write errors and sometimes it works fine.
Now if the reduced file is not a iso then put it back into fab bluray copy write data and change the target from your blu ray drive to a iso fab folder by clicking the blue disk in a hand next to target then in about 20 mins your 3d file will be turned into a 3d iso with all the 3d files in it.Close fab go back into fabs files under iso's drag and burn that file in img burn (iso to disk).Img burn must burn a iso not a file when working with 3d.

[junkman1980]

Hi junkman1980
You are correct, there is not an option yet for frame by frame only chapters.
This has been requested before but has yet to be implemented into Fab yet.
CBR929

Thank you!That's exactly what I needed to know!

You can use img burn with a (3d iso) if the file is a little to big img burn will tell you and ask if you want to use burn to the end of disk or over burn.If you use burn to the end of disk it may just cut the ending off where the disk runs out if you use overburn it will try to burn all of the bluray to parts of the disk not normally used sometimes you will get write errors and sometimes it works fine.
Now if the reduced file is not a iso then put it back into fab bluray copy write data and change the target from your blu ray drive to a iso fab folder by clicking the blue disk in a hand next to target then in about 20 mins your 3d file will be turned into a 3d iso with all the 3d files in it.Close fab go back into fabs files under iso's drag and burn that file in img burn (iso to disk).Img burn must burn a iso not a file when working with 3d.

Yeah,I know what u mean with the overburning and that's an option.
but...sorry,I don't understand what it has to do with 3d iso...the movie it's in 2d

p.s. FYI it's a iso.

[glenns]

Junkman read my post again the top part tells you how to do it with a regular blu ray.

[junkman1980]

Junkman read my post again the top part tells you how to do it with a regular blu ray.

ok! I really appreciate your help! it's very kind of you!