Any update on the "black screen" effect on standalone players?

[spacemonkey]

Thanks Fengtao! Very happy to see that the problem seems to have been fixed with v8.2.2.5Qt!

Blu-ray Copy:
Fix: A black screen problem when playback the copied Blu-ray 3D discs on standalone player in certain cases.
Fix: A black screen problem when playback the copied Blu-ray 3D discs on TMT and PowerDVD players in certain cases. Note: This issue only reproduces in Full Disc mode and using the Blu-ray ISO files as source.

Perfect timing as I just received Ice Age 4 3D from Fox, which was certain to trigger the black screen. Cloning it now and I'll post the result here as soon as it's done!

I'm very gutted to report it did NOT work (LG and Samsung players). I tried Ice Age 4 3D (UK disc) in Clone mode. Should I have tried in Full Disc mode? From the new features text it seemed that should be done only for PowerDVD and TMT. There was no mention of that for standalone players... can you clarify Fengtao please?

[Gary1609]

Fengtao what happened regarding the black screen fix?

I tried Avatar 3D UK version by using full disc mode creating a mini iso ( as you must always do with 3d ) and then put in my 25gb disc fully expecting this to work after reading the fix in 8.2.2.5 but it turned out exactly the same...black screen on my LG and panasonic standalone players.
I had been waiting patiently for this fix ( 2 months now ) but when it comes it does not seem to have sorted the issue out at all
Can you tell us what you tested this fix on because it does not seem to be working with any of the FOX 3D titles I have that have had this issue.

[spacemonkey]

I tried to copy Ice Age 4 3D again, in Full Disc mode this time, using the Blu-ray iso file as the source and still I get the black screen.

So the issue has not been fixed at all Fengtao...

[fengtao]

We have fixed some black screen problems on our test PCs.

For your problem, please post new dvdfab_internal.log, thanks.

[spacemonkey]

We have fixed some black screen problems on our test PCs.

For your problem, please post new dvdfab_internal.log, thanks.

DVDFab 8.2.2.5 (2012/12/16 00:53:16)

0m 01.51s: GPUAccelerate: 4
0m 01.51s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.52s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.52s: Graphics info: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family : :
0m 01.53s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.62s: Load config successful.
0m 01.73s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 05.80s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 05.80s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 0 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 05.81s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 06.23s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 06.23s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 06.51s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 08.06s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.12s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 09.10s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 09.10s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.16s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 10.64s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 10.68s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 11.30s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 11.32s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 11.51s: StartNotify successful.
1m 07.08s: opening drive F
1m 07.09s: opened i/o
1m 07.09s: got media type 15
1m 07.39s: got max lba 18136159
1m 08.86s: got disc type 20
1m 08.86s: type Blu-ray BDMV
1m 08.87s: volume label ICE_AGE_4_3D
1m 10.90s: aacs 1 bd+ 1
2m 00.56s: Java protection is removed by StealthyClone anti-protection.
2m 01.20s: got discinfo
2m 01.49s: got bdmv
2m 01.50s: Vendor: TSSTcorp
2m 01.50s: Product: BDDVDW SE-506AB
2m 01.51s: Revision: TS01
2m 01.51s: Vendor specific: 0131
2m 01.51s: AACS version: 1
2m 01.52s: Number of concurrent AGIDs: 2
2m 01.52s: Supports bus encryption: YES
2m 01.53s: Supports binding nonce generation: YES
2m 01.53s: Supports Hybrid discs: NO
2m 01.54s: got agid 0
2m 01.61s: sent host cert chal
2m 01.62s: got drive cert chal
2m 01.62s: BEC 1
2m 01.63s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0182
2m 01.72s: got drive key
2m 02.11s: got host key signature
2m 02.12s: verified drive signature
2m 02.12s: verified host signature
2m 02.21s: sent host signature and key point
2m 02.22s: got bus key
2m 02.23s: got agid 0
2m 02.29s: sent host cert chal
2m 02.30s: got drive cert chal
2m 02.30s: BEC 1
2m 02.31s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0182
2m 02.39s: got drive key
2m 02.40s: got host key signature
2m 02.40s: verified drive signature
2m 02.41s: verified host signature
2m 02.50s: sent host signature and key point
2m 02.50s: got bus key
2m 03.92s: got volume id
2m 03.92s: got volume id mac
2m 03.93s: volume id is correct
2m 03.93s: got vid
2m 05.62s: blu-ray 10AE5B85E499420719EEFADE7CCD41B73E63FA39
2m 11.94s: cert BEE=0x00 same
2m 13.49s: D A6D7ACED
3m 02.60s: bt R:8
3m 02.61s: got vuk
3m 02.61s: got fut
3m 03.30s: got agid 0
3m 03.36s: sent host cert chal
3m 03.37s: got drive cert chal
3m 03.37s: BEC 1
3m 03.37s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0182
3m 03.47s: got drive key
3m 03.47s: got host key signature
3m 03.47s: verified drive signature
3m 03.48s: verified host signature
3m 03.57s: sent host signature and key point
3m 03.97s: got bus key
3m 03.98s: got data key
3m 04.09s: got unit key 7
4m 37.19s: got extended bdinfo
4m 37.20s: opened blu-ray
5m 53.92s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
5m 53.93s: Source: F:/BDMV/
5m 53.94s: Playlist: 800
5m 53.96s: Chapters: 1 -> 25
5m 53.97s: Angle: 1
5m 53.97s: TotalSize: 26988 MB
5m 53.97s: SourceSize: 26988 MB
5m 53.98s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
5m 53.98s: CompressToAC3: 0
5m 53.98s: OutputSize: 46100 MB
5m 53.99s: OutputDisc: BDMV
5m 53.99s: OutputTarget: BD50
5m 54.00s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
5m 54.00s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
53m 56.17s: opening drive F
53m 56.25s: opened i/o
53m 56.26s: failed to detect media type
53m 56.26s: got max lba 0
54m 52.51s: burn folder C:/Users/abc/Documents/DVDFab/Temp/MainMovie/ICE_AGE_4_3D/ with DVDFab

[xubin]

@spacemonkey
Thank you for the log you provided.

We are making some tests tonight, this is a high priority bug.

[fengtao]

Dear all,

Do you have the black screen problem if playing with software player like PowerDVD, TMT or DVDFab Media Player?

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[Gary1609]

Dear all,

Do you have the black screen problem if playing with software player like PowerDVD, TMT or DVDFab Media Player?

Best Regards,
Fengtao

They play fine on my PowerDVD Fengtao.
It just seems to be an issue on standalones for me.

Heres my log for Avatar 3D UK version.

DVDFab 8.2.2.5 (2012/12/15 08:01:31)

0m 01.23s: GPUAccelerate: 3
0m 01.23s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 01.23s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.23s: Graphics info: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series : :
0m 01.25s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.28s: Load config successful.
0m 01.31s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 04.84s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 04.84s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 04.84s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 05.01s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 05.01s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 05.12s: dvd2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 05.79s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 05.81s: blu-ray2mobile have 20 elements.
0m 06.23s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 06.35s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 06.37s: file2mobile have 30 elements.
0m 07.03s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 07.04s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 07.34s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 37.39s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 37.45s: StartNotify successful.
0m 37.51s: opening drive F
0m 37.51s: opened i/o
0m 37.51s: got media type 16
0m 37.51s: got max lba 24265727
0m 37.51s: got disc type 20
0m 37.51s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 37.53s: volume label RED_BIRD_3D_WW
0m 37.79s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 40.20s: Java protection is removed by StealthyClone anti-protection.
0m 40.51s: got discinfo
0m 40.54s: got bdmv
0m 41.07s: got extended bdinfo
0m 41.07s: opened blu-ray
2m 09.57s: opening drive D
2m 09.60s: opened i/o
2m 09.60s: got media type 16
2m 09.60s: got max lba 0
2m 09.64s: failed to open 0
3m 05.15s: Blu-ray Copy: Full Disc
3m 05.17s: Source: F:/BDMV/
3m 05.17s: SourceSize: 47384 MB
3m 05.17s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
3m 05.17s: OutputSize: 23000 MB
3m 05.17s: OutputDisc: BDMV
3m 05.17s: OutputTarget: BD25
3m 05.17s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
3m 05.17s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
3m 51.00s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
3m 51.06s: info: video encode mode(0), bitrate(20073), lr-encode(no)
3m 51.06s: info: streams(4113.2,4352.1)
3m 51.06s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00005.ssif]]])
3m 51.20s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(20072)
3m 51.23s: info: processing source(00005.ssif)
4m 42.65s: info: group(elem[atomic[00005.ssif]]) playtime(22230 ms) source(152 MB) request(56 MB) real(56 MB) bitrate(20072 kbps)
4m 42.65s: compress finished: groups request(56 MB, 56 MB) real(56 MB) average_bitrate(20073 kbps)
4m 42.65s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
4m 42.65s: info: video encode mode(0), bitrate(11980), lr-encode(no)
4m 42.65s: info: streams(4113.2,4352.1,4353.1,4354.1,4355.1,4608.1, 4609.1,4610.1,4611.1,4612.1)
4m 42.65s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]])
4m 42.65s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(11980)
4m 42.68s: info: processing source(00001.ssif)
235m 36.29s: info: group(elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]) playtime(9701692 ms) source(45981 MB) request(21462 MB) real(21865 MB) bitrate(11980 kbps)
235m 36.35s: compress finished: groups request(21462 MB, 21462 MB) real(21865 MB) average_bitrate(11980 kbps)
237m 05.51s: burn folder C:/Documents and Settings/gary/My Documents/DVDFab/Temp/FullDisc/RED_BIRD_3D_WW/ with DVDFab


My method for backing up was full mode creating a mini iso which I mounted using the latest version of virtual drive,then I reopened Bluray copy and choise full mode and changed to 25gb to enable it to fit on a 25gb disc.
I burnt the disc using DVDFAB burning engine at 4 speed ( i have tried 2 speed with same results ).

The Avatar disc is UK Region and the code is WW-BOGB 3960315001.
bluray 3D/2D/DVD set.

I have also discovered the new version of bluray copy does not fix the expendables 2 UK issue either but thats for a different thread.

[spacemonkey]

Dear all,

Do you have the black screen problem if playing with software player like PowerDVD, TMT or DVDFab Media Player?

Best Regards,
Fengtao

As Gary1609 said it works fine on PowerDVD for me, but not on standalone players. I don't have TMT or DVDFab Media Player installed so can't comment on these.

The interesting thing is that, for all other Fox 3D titles published since Prometheus 3D, I was still able to do a backup in Main Movie mode, but not in Clone of Full Disc modes. But with Ice Age 4 3D, even the Main Movie mode didn't work. I didn't even get a black screen, the player just says "Loading" but nothing happens and I can only see the player menu on screen... the player is just stuck on "loading" and I have to switch the power off to get it to stop, the remote won't work. I've wasted 3 50GB discs on this title! :-(

[Potti]

We test clone and full disc mode on SONY-S490, LG BD 670 and Panasonic DMP-BDT300.
All of results look good. Disc is Avatar 3D. We will keep testing.

[fengtao]

Please tell us your standalone player model, thanks.

[Gary1609]

Please tell us your standalone player model, thanks.

I have already passed my details onto xubin but for the purpose of this thread my machine is LGBP620 purchased from Amazon UK.

I am suprised to hear you have had good results on another LG model as I would have thought once you sort it for one LG it would be OK for any LG model.

I would also expect that once one fox title works they all will.

[spacemonkey]

I have already passed my details onto xubin but for the purpose of this thread my machine is LGBP620 purchased from Amazon UK.

I am suprised to hear you have had good results on another LG model as I would have thought once you sort it for one LG it would be OK for any LG model.

I would also expect that once one fox title works they all will.

i concur, and for the sake of this thread, I have a Samsung BD-C5900 and I just got the LG BD660 last month, both are affected.

[Potti]

Hi All:
Would you please double check that :
1. Whether the backup disc have the ssif files in DriveX:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF?
2. Whether you used burnning engine is dvdfab blu-ray write burning engine?

[Jeppa]

1. Whether the backup disc have the ssif files in DriveX:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF?

Yes, there are some...

2. Whether you used burnning engine is dvdfab blu-ray write burning engine?

When i did the ISO it was on dvdfab burning engine.
But i burned the BD itself with ImgBurn, what shouldn't be a problem...