Blu Ray 3D "Insert compatible media"

[glenns]

Ist off check your spelling as your last message doesn't get your point across.If you followed my directions fab will do everything for you it will then burn the disk also (if you put in a blank 25 gig disk.)You don't hit any buttons to burn disk also the burn should take 20-25 mins not 1.5 hours.It seems i can't help you please go to you tube their you will find step by step videos with a girl showing each step as somewhere your not doing something right.Watching the girl on You tube is like following the bouncing ball and you should be able to get it done correctly sorry i couldn't help you i did try.

[speedinbk]

yes you did try to help and thank you for that.

The only thing I goofed on the previouse message was the word date should have been data.

I did do everything you instructed step by step, what is crazy is that
I have burned more than a hundred Blu Ray titles without a problem, but can't seem to get a 3D title to work properly.

I do think the burn times on a rewritable discs take longer than on a standard BluRay.

Thanks again

[speedinbk]

Do you have a youtube link you can give me that explains everything.
This is what I'm doing:

1. insert disc and change "source" to ISO
2. press "main movie"
3. remove all languages subtitles and check "remove HD audio"
4. "start" copy process
5. when process is finished remove original disc and replace with Blu Ray rewitable
6. change "source" to the ISO file that was made above
7. change "target" to the blu ray drive
8. click on "write data" to start processing

Did I do anything wrong in the above steps?

[Wilson.Wang]

Hi,
For compressing 3D source with "Copy as 3D" option, plesae follow these ways:
1. Please set DVDFab Burning engine manually in Common Settings if you want to compressto to bd25 blank disc directly.
2. You must mount the .miniso file by DVDFab Virtual Drive v1380 or later when playback on PowerDVD or TMT if you target to an folder.
And if you want to burn the folder, you should set DVDFab burning engine in Common Setting and then burn the targeted folder in Write Data.
3. Target to an ISO file, not need to set DVDFab burning manually, DVDFab will switch to DVDFab burning automatically. Then you could burn the bd25 ISO file by ImgBurn or other burning engine.

Your steps is the #3. How about burning the targeted ISO file by ImgBurn?
Hope this help you!

Wilson

[speedinbk]

wang,
Thanks for your reply.

I will not be playing any of my rips on my computer, so I'm only interested in backing them up to disc.

Looking at my steps 1 thru 8, do they look correct?

Do I have to create a miniso if I just want to burn directly to disc and not watch on my computer?

I normally do use Image Burn for copying standard Blu Ray, but I read in a previouse post in the forum that Image Burn will not work with 3D burning. Is that an untrue statement, will it work?

I'm not sure what you meant by this:
"Target to an ISO file, not need to set DVDFab burning manually, DVDFab will switch to DVDFab burning automatically. Then you could burn the bd25 ISO file by ImgBurn or other burning engine."

I am able to creat the 3D ISO's with no problem, I just can't get them on my Blu Ray rewritable. The title of the movie appears when you look at the disc drive, but nothing else is on the disc . I however have not tried Image Burn yet for the reasons I stated earlier.

[glenns]

Please make a ISO of the 3d blu ray first step 1 shows you how.

1-in blu ray copy select CLONE insert 3d blu ray store brought disk in blu ray drive.Source will be your blu ray drive, target change to dvdfab iso folder this is a clone folder in dvd fabs files and is where you will look for it later.
Press start this will copy the disk exactly to your hard drive as a iso should take about 50 mins. or so to do when done disk is ejected and you click on finish and close fab.Now in the next step you will make the 3d disk from the Iso(clone) folder in fab you just made.

2-Now open fab blu ray copy click on main movie go into fabs files and find the iso you just made in the clone file folder drag the file into fab.Put a 25 gig disk into blu ray drive.Target is your blu ray drive, source is the file you just dragged into fab.Here you take out anything you don't want but leave the English dts master pre checked file or whatever master audio file is checked.Now below theirs a hd audio box you can check to take out the hd audio only do this if you don't want this soundtrack or to make the file fit on a 25 gig disk without trans coding the movie that's the very long process of reducing the file to fit on a 25 gig disk.Now theirs a box to check on the bottom that says 50 gig and has a pull down box to the right, pull down this box and click on 25 gig fab will do the math if the disk doesn't need to be reduced fab will make a temporary file with the instructions you just gave it after that file is made about 20-30 Min's if the file need no compression it will go right to the burn and burn the temporary folder.If fab needs to reduce the file it can take 13 hours on a dual core computer less for 4 core computers then after if does the compress it does the burn.Their are other ways to do this but this is the easy way.

[speedinbk]

Glen,

Thanks for the step by step, I wasn't doing the Clone first. I was going straight into copy main movie 3D.

I'll try it like this when I get in from wk this evening and report back.

Thanks again for everyone's help. I hope another person will be able to Benifit from this thread.

[speedinbk]

Since you guys put in so much effort, I felt I at least owed you the respect of a reply after my attempt.

Glen: I followed your last instructions step by step, with nothing left undone. The results were the same as they have been up to now. Everything seems to work without flaw until I get to the burn process. It goes through the 30min burn process (or at least that what it seems to be doing) only to be a blank disc when the burn is finished.
I'm beginning to wonder if the Blu Ray rewiteable disc could be the problem, and that I need to use write once Blu Rays for 3D burns. I have used three different Blu Ray rewritables and have had the same results on all three. Have each of you tried the burn process with Blu Ray rewritables with 3D burns?

I can't thank both of you enough for trying to help get this working for me. Thanks again guys!

I've invested so much time into getting this to work properly I think I'm starting to waive the white flag and just give up. After burning over a hundred 2D Blu Rays over the last four years without a single problem, this has just gotten the better of me.

[glenns]

Go to fab settings the green checked box takes you their,look for dvd/blu ray under WRITE check to make sure blu ray (write speed is recommended) in the box not fastest etc.Then check for the box that says overwrite rewritable media automatically make sure this box is checked as if it's not checked and you have something on the disk already fab will show a dialog box when you insert the blu ray disk that tells you that the disk already has information on it overwrite data? then you must answer fab with ok or fab won't overwrite the disk unless of course you check this box in the settings in the above manner.If you do this and it doesn't do the burn then the disks you are using are defective,dirty,scratched and may have outlived their useful life.Please use a burn once disk they are down to about a buck each now and burn at much faster than 1 or 2 x speeds.Also you can post your burn log to see if theirs burn errors in it.Your burn logs are in fabs log files.

[glenns]

Also under WRITE in fab settings Make sure (dvd fab burning engine) is checked.Just for you I burned a 3d movie to rewritable disk using the fab burning engine and a second way with another program we use called Img burn both gave good results with the 3d movie burned onto a rewritable disk so my thoughts without looking at your burn files say its your rewritable disks.try burning a regular blu ray to them and see if that works use fab to do the burn if that doesn't work then it's the disks or your burning laser is at fault.

[speedinbk]

Glenn:

1. Recommended is checked
2. I will check the overwrite box (however, Fab has been asking if I want to overwrite and I have been clicking the ok box)
3. I've used these RW about six times for various testing, but the outer layers of them are in mint, no scratches.
4. I did have the Fab burn engine set for the last week while trying to work with 3D. However, I changed it back to Image Burn last night after the first test didn't work with the Fab engine and when the 2nd test went to burn it automatically switched from Image Burn to the Fab burn engine
5. I am going to attempt a brun with a regular burn once blu ray after wk, I'll let you know what happens
6. I am also going to try and burn one of my 2D discs to the RW media I've been using and see if that will wk
7. I also updated to the newest version of fab last night.

Thanks for testing a RW yourself.
I guess you opened the 3D ISO file in IB since it won't do it in DVDfab?
I'll let you know of my results later...

[glenns]

I don't open 3d iso's i just open the folder they are in or drive their on and drag it into the opened fab program.I want you to go into dvdfabs burn files and highlight the last or all the trys you did then cut and paste them into a post here to we all can see whats going on instead of guessing whats wrong.I enclosed a burn log file from my last two burns so you see what it looks like and when a disk is burnt it starts from the inside of the disk and works to the outside so if the disk is damaged on the inside track the disk may not burn.All is revealed in the burn log files even in img burn they both have internal logs so if something goes wrong it will tell you or give you a code that can be figured out by staff here so please post your burn log files please get use to doing this as staff here will always tell you thats what they really need to look at to help you.Why keep guessing when the logs tell all in most cases.here is my last two so you can see what they are like.

02:16:32 Info Input Speed is: 8990, Output Speed: 8990

02:16:32 Info StartPerf Speed: 8990, EndPerf Speed: 8990


Burn Folder 2012-11-16 02:16:32 -----------------------------------------------

02:16:32 Info RootDir: H:/

02:16:32 Info VolumeName: BD_VOLUME

02:16:32 Info WriteMode: 4

02:16:33 Info Operation Started!

02:16:33 Info Source File Size: 11931 MB

02:16:37 Info Writing LeadIn...

02:16:37 Info Write started 6108704 sectors to write

02:39:56 Info Synchronising Cache...

02:39:56 Info Synchronising Disc 0

02:39:57 Info Synchronising Disc 65536

02:40:00 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:24

02:44:13 Info Input Speed is: 8990, Output Speed: 8990

02:44:13 Info StartPerf Speed: 8990, EndPerf Speed: 8990


Burn Iso 2012-11-16 02:44:13 --------------------------------------------------

02:44:13 Info IsoFile: M:/SPORTS_ILLUSTRATED Swimsuits 2011_3D.ISO

02:44:13 Info WriteMode: 4

02:44:13 Info LayerBreak: 0

02:44:13 Info Operation Started!

02:44:13 Info Source File Size: 11937 MB

02:44:22 Info Writing LeadIn...

02:44:22 Info Write started 6111872 sectors to write

03:07:41 Info Synchronising Cache...

03:07:41 Info Synchronising Disc 0

03:07:42 Info Synchronising Disc 65536

03:07:46 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:30

[glenns]

Also you said dvd fab won't play a iso but it will here's how- put the iso disk or iso computer file into fab, click main movie, use the small preview player to check disk or file you can also make the small viewer full screen.

[speedinbk]

Here are the last few days Logs: Tell me what you think.


Burn Folder 2012-11-11 18:37:02 -----------------------------------------------

18:37:02 Info RootDir: F:/DVDFAB folder/Temp/Temp/MainMovie/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW/

18:37:02 Info VolumeName: ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW

18:37:02 Info WriteMode: 4

18:37:02 Info Operation Started!

18:37:02 Info Source File Size: 22221 MB

18:37:12 Info Writing LeadIn...

18:37:12 Info Write started 11377536 sectors to write

20:28:21 Info Synchronising Cache...

20:28:22 Info Synchronising Disc 0

20:28:24 Info Synchronising Disc 65536

20:28:29 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:51:22


Burn Folder 2012-11-11 21:30:50 -----------------------------------------------

21:30:50 Info RootDir: F:/DVDFAB folder/Temp/Temp/MainMovie/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW/

21:30:50 Info VolumeName: ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW

21:30:50 Info WriteMode: 4

21:30:50 Info Operation Started!

21:30:50 Info Source File Size: 22221 MB

21:30:58 Info Writing LeadIn...

21:30:58 Info Write started 11377536 sectors to write

23:17:33 Info Synchronising Cache...

23:17:33 Info Synchronising Disc 0

23:17:35 Info Synchronising Disc 65536

23:17:41 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:46:46


Burn Folder 2012-11-12 22:55:17 -----------------------------------------------

22:55:17 Info RootDir: F:/DVDFAB folder/Temp/Temp/FullDisc/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW/

22:55:17 Info VolumeName: ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW

22:55:17 Info WriteMode: 4

22:55:17 Info Operation Started!

22:55:17 Info Source File Size: 23046 MB

22:55:27 Info Writing LeadIn...

22:55:27 Info Write started 11799776 sectors to write

00:43:29 Info Synchronising Cache...

00:43:30 Info Synchronising Disc 0

00:43:32 Info Synchronising Disc 65536

00:43:37 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:48:15

20:50:33 Info Input Speed is: 8990, Output Speed: 8990

20:50:33 Info StartPerf Speed: 8990, EndPerf Speed: 8990

[speedinbk]

I also wanted to tell you I wanted to test your theory of the burn laser possibly going out. I just copied and burned a 2D disc. No Problems:

Not sure if this type of Log will help you, but I've added it as well:

DVDFab 8.2.1.5 (2012/11/11 09:13:59)

0m 00.96s: GPUAccelerate: 12351
0m 00.96s: CUDA cap: 1
0m 00.96s: Support coreavc decode: 0
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0m 00.96s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 00.99s: Load config successful.
0m 00.99s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 02.93s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 02.93s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 0 bd2dvd 0 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 0 filemover 0
0m 02.94s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 03.16s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 03.16s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
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0m 04.64s: file2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 04.66s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 04.68s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 04.96s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 07.19s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 07.25s: StartNotify successful.
0m 07.26s: opening drive K
0m 07.26s: opened i/o
0m 07.28s: got media type 17
0m 08.10s: got disc type 0
0m 08.10s: got max lba 11826175
0m 09.13s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 09.13s: volume label JEFF_LIVES_AT_HOME
0m 09.84s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 11.22s: user cancelled
0m 11.23s: failed to open 1
2m 19.25s: opening drive K
2m 19.26s: opened i/o
2m 19.28s: got media type 15
2m 19.95s: got disc type 0
2m 19.95s: got max lba 24438783
2m 21.60s: type Blu-ray BDMV
2m 21.60s: volume label ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW
2m 26.08s: aacs 1 bd+ 1
2m 34.30s: Java protection is removed by StealthyClone anti-protection.
2m 34.44s: got discinfo
2m 34.88s: got bdmv
2m 34.90s: Vendor: PIONEER
2m 34.90s: Product: BD-RW BDR-205
2m 34.90s: Revision: 1.03
2m 34.90s: Vendor specific: 09/09/11 PIONEER
2m 34.90s: AACS version: 1
2m 34.90s: Number of concurrent AGIDs: 1
2m 34.90s: Supports bus encryption: NO
2m 34.90s: Supports binding nonce generation: YES
2m 34.90s: Supports Hybrid discs: NO
2m 34.90s: got agid 0
2m 34.97s: sent host cert chal
2m 34.99s: got drive cert chal
2m 34.99s: BEC 0
2m 34.99s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0067
2m 35.04s: got drive key
2m 36.05s: got host key signature
2m 36.05s: verified drive signature
2m 36.07s: verified host signature
2m 36.11s: sent host signature and key point
2m 36.11s: got bus key
2m 36.14s: got agid 0
2m 36.21s: sent host cert chal
2m 36.22s: got drive cert chal
2m 36.22s: BEC 0
2m 36.22s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0067
2m 36.27s: got drive key
2m 36.27s: got host key signature
2m 36.29s: verified drive signature
2m 36.29s: verified host signature
2m 36.33s: sent host signature and key point
2m 36.33s: got bus key
2m 36.99s: got volume id
2m 36.99s: got volume id mac
2m 36.99s: volume id is correct
2m 36.99s: got vid
2m 37.19s: blu-ray 1F5CD341D24285F0443EEBC33EA426AD336C6F12
2m 37.95s: cert BEE=0x00 same
2m 38.53s: D 788F51F2
2m 56.21s: got vuk
2m 56.21s: got fut
2m 56.50s: got unit key 7
3m 04.49s: got extended bdinfo
3m 04.49s: opened blu-ray
5m 34.40s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
5m 34.40s: Source: K:/BDMV/
5m 34.40s: Playlist: 852
5m 34.40s: Chapters: 1 -> 21
5m 34.40s: TotalSize: 36164 MB
5m 34.40s: SourceSize: 32842 MB
5m 34.40s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
5m 34.40s: CompressToAC3: 0
5m 34.40s: OutputSize: 23098 MB
5m 34.40s: OutputDisc: BDMV
5m 34.40s: OutputTarget: BD25
5m 34.40s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
5m 34.40s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
5m 34.40s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
5m 34.42s: info: video encode mode(0), bitrate(28723), lr-encode(no)
5m 34.42s: info: streams(4113.2,4352.1,4353.1,4354.1,4608.1)
5m 34.42s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]])
5m 34.42s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(28723)
5m 34.45s: info: processing source(00001.ssif)
122m 02.24s: info: group(elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]) playtime(5641761 ms) source(36164 MB) request(22867 MB) real(23123 MB) bitrate(28723 kbps)
122m 02.26s: compress finished: groups request(22867 MB, 22867 MB) real(23123 MB) average_bitrate(28723 kbps)
556m 17.79s: opening iso G:/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW.iso
556m 27.07s: got media type 15
556m 27.12s: got disc type 0
556m 27.12s: got max lba 11840383
556m 27.40s: type Blu-ray BDMV
556m 27.40s: volume label ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW
556m 27.43s: opening iso G:/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW.iso
556m 27.43s: got disc type 0
556m 27.43s: got max lba 11840383
556m 27.45s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
556m 27.48s: got discinfo
556m 27.48s: got bdmv
556m 27.49s: got extended bdinfo
556m 27.49s: opened blu-ray
556m 49.35s: opening drive K
556m 49.36s: opened i/o
556m 49.38s: got media type 17
556m 50.59s: got disc type 0
556m 50.59s: got max lba 11826175
556m 51.61s: type Blu-ray BDMV
556m 51.61s: volume label JEFF_LIVES_AT_HOME
556m 52.81s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
556m 55.35s: got discinfo
556m 58.64s: user cancelled
556m 58.64s: exception when getting bdinfo 1003 102 26
556m 58.64s: failed to open 1
557m 16.79s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
557m 16.79s: Source: [:/BDMV/
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557m 16.79s: Chapters: 1 -> 21
557m 16.79s: TotalSize: 23123 MB
557m 16.79s: SourceSize: 22213 MB
557m 16.79s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
557m 16.79s: CompressToAC3: 0
557m 16.79s: OutputSize: 23098 MB
557m 16.79s: OutputDisc: BDMV
557m 16.79s: OutputTarget: BD25
557m 16.79s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
557m 16.79s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
557m 16.79s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
557m 16.79s: info: stream(4113 - 28) not need compress, change to copy mode
557m 16.79s: info: streams(4113.1,4352.1,4608.1)
557m 16.79s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]])
557m 16.81s: info: processing source(00001.ssif)
697m 21.00s: opening drive K
697m 21.02s: opened i/o
697m 21.04s: got media type 17
697m 22.30s: got disc type 0
697m 22.30s: got max lba 11826175
697m 23.30s: type Blu-ray BDMV
697m 23.30s: volume label ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW
697m 23.33s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
697m 23.88s: got discinfo
697m 24.05s: got bdmv
697m 24.31s: got extended bdinfo
697m 24.31s: opened blu-ray


DVDFab 8.2.1.5 (2012/11/11 21:20:38)

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0m 00.95s: CUDA cap: 1
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0m 00.96s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 00.99s: Load config successful.
0m 00.99s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
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0m 04.63s: file2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 04.64s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 04.66s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 04.94s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 12.85s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 12.91s: StartNotify successful.
0m 13.82s: opening drive K
0m 13.84s: opened i/o
0m 13.86s: got media type 17
0m 14.35s: got disc type 0
0m 14.35s: got max lba 11826175
0m 15.34s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 15.34s: volume label ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW
0m 15.35s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 15.91s: got discinfo
0m 16.09s: got bdmv
0m 16.32s: got extended bdinfo
0m 16.32s: opened blu-ray
3m 08.78s: opening iso G:/ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW.iso
3m 08.79s: got media type 15
3m 08.81s: got disc type 0
3m 08.82s: got max lba 11840383
3m 09.12s: type Blu-ray BDMV
3m 09.12s: volume label ICEAGE3_3DBUNDLE_WW
3m 09.15s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
3m 09.18s: got discinfo
3m 09.18s: got bdmv
3m 09.18s: got extended bdinfo
3m 09.18s: opened blu-ray
4m 38.11s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
4m 38.11s: Source: [:/BDMV/
4m 38.11s: Playlist: 0
4m 38.11s: Chapters: 1 -> 21
4m 38.11s: TotalSize: 23123 MB
4m 38.11s: SourceSize: 22194 MB
4m 38.11s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
4m 38.11s: CompressToAC3: 0
4m 38.11s: OutputSize: 23098 MB
4m 38.11s: OutputDisc: BDMV
4m 38.11s: OutputTarget: BD25
4m 38.11s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
4m 38.11s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
4m 38.11s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
4m 38.11s: info: stream(4113 - 28) not need compress, change to copy mode
4m 38.12s: info: streams(4113.1,4352.1,4608.1)
4m 38.12s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00001.ssif]]])
4m 38.12s: info: processing source(00001.ssif)