Blu Ray 3D "Insert compatible media"

[speedinbk]

I'll have to post the other log when I get home form wk this evening. The movie is a mainstream title, it's "Tangled" by Disney. You know how they don't always use the name of the actual movies when the folder files are made. They just happen to use "surfin3D" as the working title folder. If you ever ripped movies, you'll notice what I'm talking about.
Hard drive space is not an issue, as you know I am a professional video editor and the computer I'm using to work on the 3D tests with fab have x4 2tb HDD in it, each drive is almost completely empty with tons of storage room.

[speedinbk]

Glenn: Here's the file log you asked for


DVDFab 8.2.2.0 (2012/11/27 22:25:42)

0m 03.02s: GPUAccelerate: 12351
0m 03.02s: CUDA cap: 1
0m 03.02s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 03.02s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 : 5.0 : 2.0
0m 03.07s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 03.29s: Load config successful.
0m 03.34s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 06.29s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 06.29s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 06.29s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 07.07s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 07.07s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 07.21s: dvd2mobile have 32 elements.
0m 08.02s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 08.04s: blu-ray2mobile have 21 elements.
0m 08.57s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 08.72s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 08.75s: file2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 09.53s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 09.54s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 09.90s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 37.42s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 37.50s: StartNotify successful.
2m 34.07s: opening drive J
2m 34.10s: opened i/o
2m 34.12s: got media type 17
2m 35.00s: got disc type 0
2m 35.00s: got max lba 11826175
2m 35.75s: type Blu-ray BDMV
2m 35.75s: volume label THE_CONSPIRATOR_BD
2m 35.78s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
2m 36.20s: got discinfo
2m 36.25s: got bdmv
2m 36.67s: got extended bdinfo
2m 36.67s: opened blu-ray
2m 54.52s: opening iso F:/DVDFAB folder/Tangled Clone/SURFING3D/SURFING3D.iso
2m 54.53s: got media type 15
2m 54.56s: got disc type 0
2m 54.56s: got max lba 20676383
2m 54.59s: type Blu-ray BDMV
2m 54.59s: volume label SURFING3D
2m 54.61s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
2m 54.63s: got discinfo
2m 54.64s: got bdmv
2m 55.22s: got extended bdinfo
2m 55.22s: opened blu-ray
4m 42.29s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
4m 42.29s: Source: [:/BDMV/
4m 42.29s: Playlist: 4
4m 42.29s: Chapters: 1 -> 13
4m 42.29s: TotalSize: 37940 MB
4m 42.29s: SourceSize: 34314 MB
4m 42.29s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
4m 42.29s: CompressToAC3: 0
4m 42.29s: OutputSize: 23098 MB
4m 42.29s: OutputDisc: BDMV
4m 42.29s: OutputTarget: BD25
4m 42.29s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
4m 42.29s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
4m 42.30s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
4m 42.33s: info: video encode mode(0), bitrate(25476), lr-encode(no)
4m 42.33s: info: streams(4113.2,4352.1,4608.1)
4m 42.33s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00012.ssif],atomic[00013.ssif]]])
4m 42.35s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(25476)
4m 42.38s: info: processing source(00012.ssif)
73m 07.90s: info: processing source(00013.ssif)
122m 31.45s: info: group(elem[atomic[00012.ssif],atomic[00013.ssif]]) playtime(6016427 ms) source(37940 MB) request(22867 MB) real(23223 MB) bitrate(25476 kbps)
122m 31.45s: compress finished: groups request(22867 MB, 22867 MB) real(23223 MB) average_bitrate(25476 kbps)

[glenns]

Ok i see what the log says for size now tell me the size of the tangled file when you put your mouse over it? Should be about 22.5 gigs and that makes a easy burn to 25 gig disks.I have that disk so i could reconvert it from 50 gigs but it will take me half a day my 2 core computer is much slower.How many cores does yours have to do it in 2 hrs?

By the way we are using ver 8222 you used 8220 just so you know.How many gigs did fab make your Tangled disk? also take your blank disk put it in the drive and see what windows says the empty space is on it and let me know.Do the same with the rewritable and let me know.My blank burn once Digistor 25 gig disks gives me 23.3 gigs and 22.5 gigs on my Philips rewritable 25 gig disks so if i use the rewritable disk fabs reduced from 50 to 25 gig converts just fit on the rewritable Philips blu ray assuming that fabs converted disks are 22.5 gigs as most are in my collection of back ups.So if your fab conversion is over 22.5 then i can see theirs a oversize problem with fab and that has happened before but lets see what you come up with before we jump the gun here.

[speedinbk]

Ok i see what the log says for size now tell me the size of the tangled file when you put your mouse over it? I'm assuming you're talking about the clone file since I burned straight from the main menu. The Clone size is 39.4gb. The temp file is deleted if it had the compressed size.

By the way we are using ver 8222 you used 8220 just so you know.. Thanks, I had updated earlier today.. I have a quad core

The Blank disc is 23.3 and the rewirtble is 22.5.. How can we get the rewitble size down to the 22.5?

[speedinbk]

Or should I say how can we get the cloned ISO to fit on the rewitable 22.5GB disc?

[glenns]

I wanted you to go into the temp file that fab made from the larger iso that file should be in the main movie file.Please put the mouse over it and see how big windows says that file is? Fab should of made it 22.5 gigs and that's about what its been making them for some time now so they should fit on a rewritable 25 gig disk.I will do one to see if the fab program is making the files to big i will convert cave of forgotten dreams 3d from a 50 gig disk to 25 gigs and use a rewritable disk to see.Even if yours didn't burn the compressed file should still be in the temporary file under main movie.If you deleted it please redo it.My convert will take awhile so i won't know till i am done but you can do it in 2 hours so please retry thanks.

[glenns]

Its fabs job to take the 39 gig iso you made from the 50 gig store brought disk and reduce it to less than 25 gigs so it fits on a 25 gig disk.It should fit on both a rewritable and write once disk.In settings under General look at the last check box that you can check under temp.files its the last box on the whole page that you can check make sure theirs no check in that box.

Now after fab reduces the 39 gig iso you made in step one it makes a new file from the 39 gig iso you made and puts it in a temporary file under main movie because you choice to compress the main movie if you chose full disk then fab will put it in temp. full disk folder.This file gets burned but now its smaller because fab reduced it to 22.5 gigs or smaller.Now it will burn to any 25 gig blank.If Fab made the reduced movie to big to fit any 25 gig disk then that's a bug in fabs program that needs to be fixed.

I am testing for this now and that's why i want you to tell us what windows says the size of the fab reduced file is.This is the file in main movie the file fab should have burned to your 25 gig disk.To see this file even if fab couldn't burn it because it's to large to fit a 25 gig disk just click on documents,dvd fab,temporary and in this case main movie that's where fab puts the reduced from 39 gig iso in this case to the new reduced 22.5 gig movie that should fit on any 25 gig blu ray.

You see i want to see if the log files are reporting the size of the disk wrong so if the log files say one thing and windows says another plus the fact that your burning log says the file is to big well then we have a bug that needs fixing as the program should have done the burn.My conversion won't be done till this afternoon i will report my finding when i get a chance.If you happen to have the same movie it will help to see if we come up with the same numbers.Still its important for you to report your file size on the fab reduced file this way we will see why the burn didn't happen and how much over the 22.5 maximum file size fab made your converted file.I thought i had a 50 gig tangled disk but i reduced it to 8.5 gigs so i can't do the one you did.That's why i converting a different movie for this test.Another reason i want you to do it again is you used a different fab version now your using what most are using.

[speedinbk]

I'm going to start the re-compress this morning of Tangled so it will be done when I get in from work this eveing, I'll look at the temp folder and report then. Thanks

[glenns]

Yes Virginia their is a Santa clause,problem solved, first off my convert went well I converted Cave of forgotten dreams from a 43 gig iso to a fab reduced file of 22.9 gigs (23467 MB) I used a rewritable disk that has 22.5 gigs of space the burn went well even though it looks like the 22.9 gig file is a tad to big to fit on a 22.5 gig disk but it did without cutting the ending.

Now for the surprise like Speedinbk when I looked at the fab made file on the computers disk drive it doesn't show the movie name or the 22.9 gigs that fab made the burned disk even if you use the properties of the disk windows can't read the new rewritable disk at all.Powerdvd 10 my software player doesn't see the rewritable blu ray just like windows thinks this disk is blank but hold on Virginia it's not so and if Speedlinbk would have tryed the disk in a 3d blu ray player or media player he would have found this out and saved me some trouble shooting time that's ok we all had a learning curve with this 3d stuff anyway.The disk will play in a blu ray player just fine i have a movie or three that play fine on the rewritable disk in 3d.

Questions for Fab staff +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Is this a Fab error or maybe your not suppose to use rewritable disks to copy 3d blu rays so if someone from staff is reading this please let us know if this is a bug or not thanks.
A second question for Fab staff how is Fab able to burn a disk thats 22.9 gigs onto a 22.5 disk is the Fab burner using overburn for this?

[glenns]

I forgot in my last post that the Fab made reduced file is in the main movie file of Fab where it belongs with the name of the movie and how many gigs it is.You can burn a copy using fabs burner to a regular 25 gig blu ray and it burns normal with name and how big the file is.You can also create a miniso with virtual drive
for this reduced in size movie and now it will play with powerdvd10 on the computer.So it looks like you can use a rewritable disk to make 3d movies as long as you know windows won't see it,can't play it from disk and thinks the disk is blank but you can play the fab made file on the computer and burn a regular writeable blu ray from that file that will play on the computer or take the rewritable disk windows can't read and just play it on a 3d blu-ray player..Now i see how confusing this can be to a new user or even a old user for that matter.

I sure hope Fab staff can tell us if this is a bug that can be fixed.About 1900 people are reading this thread and the replys to it so it seems their are others reading and some learning i hope.

[speedinbk]

Hey Glenn/Virgina...lol

Hold the fort, not so fast Virginia!! It worked for you, but not for me. I have tried two different brands of free standing Blu Ray players (a Sony & a Panasonic) and neither player recognizes the discs. I've tried to burn the file on two different Blu Ray discs and neither worked on the free standing players I have (you were lucky). As yours, the computer drives don't recognize them either. FYI... I've not gone back to look, but I'm pretty sure if you look back through the nine pages of coversation we've had you'll see where I told you I tried to play one of the so called "completed" discs in my free standing Blu Ray drives

The file size after compression in my temp folder is 22.6GB. It should work on a standard Blu Ray, but is apparently too big for a RW.

[glenns]

Well The Cave of dreams came out to 22.9 and it burned without problem on my Philips rewritable 2 x blu ray disk that have a 22.5 gig capacity and to top this off it plays on a regular Panasonic dmp-bd75 blu ray player non 3d so it played in 2d and in 3d on my Sony PlayStation.You said your empty rewritable were 22.5 gigs empty same size as mine same drive and software as mine so the moral of this Xmas story is to use regular 25 gig disks that are burn once.Except for me i can burn no more than a 22.9 to a rewritable disk.

Now you still can use that file and burn it to a 25 gig disk maybe even a rewritable by using img burn and see if their burner says the file is to big if so just use over burn or write till end of disk.Now if you want it in 3d your going to have to take the file in fabs main movie folder the 23+gigs and put it back into fab and have it come out a iso then burn it with img burn or do it the easy way and use the burn once disk to burn the file using fabs burner.I find it very hard to believe that fab won't burn a 25.6 file to a 25.5 disk when using the same drive,firmware and software and different brands of rewritable disks with the same 25.5 gig size.Did you look at that burn file for the second Tangled convert did it say disk to small? can you post it please.

I think fab has a bug what if this was a non 3d job the file fab is making won't fit on your rewritable disks so i hope staff will look into this ho ho ho.

P.S. The bottom line here is now you know how to make a 3d movie using fabs burner at least on a 25 gig burn once disk.And yes Virgina i finally earned my angel wings just in time to show Santa.

[speedinbk]

Here are the log files for the burn this morning. At the very end of the log you'll see "THE_CONSPIRATOR", that is the movie "Tangled" should have recorded over.

Yep, sounds like a bug to me.....

Thanks again for everything Glenns, you're a great guy to care enough about peoples problems to want to help them.


DVDFab 8.2.2.2 (2012/11/29 07:07:52)

0m 01.03s: GPUAccelerate: 12351
0m 01.03s: CUDA cap: 1
0m 01.03s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 01.03s: Graphics info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 : 5.0 : 2.0
0m 01.03s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.09s: Load config successful.
0m 01.10s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 03.02s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 03.02s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 03.04s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 03.35s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 03.35s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 03.47s: dvd2mobile have 32 elements.
0m 04.27s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 04.30s: blu-ray2mobile have 21 elements.
0m 04.82s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 04.96s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 04.99s: file2mobile have 31 elements.
0m 05.77s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 05.78s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 06.14s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 07.84s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 07.91s: StartNotify successful.
0m 32.63s: opening iso F:/DVDFAB folder/Tangled Clone/SURFING3D/SURFING3D.iso
0m 32.66s: got media type 15
0m 32.70s: got disc type 0
0m 32.70s: got max lba 20676383
0m 32.74s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 32.74s: volume label SURFING3D
0m 32.77s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 32.80s: got discinfo
0m 32.80s: got bdmv
0m 33.41s: got extended bdinfo
0m 33.41s: opened blu-ray
1m 02.98s: opening iso F:/DVDFAB folder/Tangled Clone/SURFING3D/SURFING3D.iso
1m 02.98s: got media type 15
1m 02.98s: got disc type 0
1m 02.98s: got max lba 20676383
1m 02.98s: type Blu-ray BDMV
1m 02.98s: volume label SURFING3D
1m 03.01s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
1m 03.02s: got discinfo
1m 03.02s: got bdmv
1m 03.10s: got extended bdinfo
1m 03.10s: opened blu-ray
2m 04.21s: opening drive J
2m 04.23s: opened i/o
2m 04.24s: got media type 17
2m 05.15s: got disc type 0
2m 05.15s: got max lba 11826175
2m 05.89s: type Blu-ray BDMV
2m 05.89s: volume label THE_CONSPIRATOR_BD
2m 05.93s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
2m 06.34s: got discinfo
2m 06.39s: got bdmv
2m 06.82s: got extended bdinfo
2m 06.82s: opened blu-ray
2m 42.82s: opening iso F:/DVDFAB folder/Tangled Clone/SURFING3D/SURFING3D.iso
2m 42.82s: got media type 15
2m 42.82s: got disc type 0
2m 42.82s: got max lba 20676383
2m 42.82s: type Blu-ray BDMV
2m 42.83s: volume label SURFING3D
2m 42.85s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
2m 42.86s: got discinfo
2m 42.88s: got bdmv
2m 42.94s: got extended bdinfo
2m 42.94s: opened blu-ray
3m 14.09s: Blu-ray Copy: Main Movie
3m 14.09s: Source: ]:/BDMV/
3m 14.09s: Playlist: 4
3m 14.09s: Chapters: 1 -> 13
3m 14.09s: TotalSize: 37940 MB
3m 14.09s: SourceSize: 34314 MB
3m 14.09s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
3m 14.09s: CompressToAC3: 0
3m 14.09s: OutputSize: 23098 MB
3m 14.09s: OutputDisc: BDMV
3m 14.09s: OutputTarget: BD25
3m 14.09s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
3m 14.09s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D
3m 14.09s: info: enable bd copy(mode=1)
3m 14.11s: info: video encode mode(0), bitrate(25476), lr-encode(no)
3m 14.11s: info: streams(4113.2,4352.1,4608.1)
3m 14.11s: info: blu-ray copy begin (unit[elem[atomic[00012.ssif],atomic[00013.ssif]]])
3m 14.14s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(25476)
3m 14.18s: info: processing source(00012.ssif)
72m 52.43s: info: processing source(00013.ssif)
123m 18.29s: info: group(elem[atomic[00012.ssif],atomic[00013.ssif]]) playtime(6016427 ms) source(37940 MB) request(22867 MB) real(23223 MB) bitrate(25476 kbps)
123m 18.31s: compress finished: groups request(22867 MB, 22867 MB) real(23223 MB) average_bitrate(25476 kbps)
801m 55.70s: opening drive J
801m 55.70s: opened i/o
801m 55.72s: got media type 17
801m 56.56s: got disc type 0
801m 56.57s: got max lba 11826175
801m 57.31s: type Blu-ray BDMV
801m 57.32s: volume label THE_CONSPIRATOR_BD

[speedinbk]

Noticed it says operation completed yet no disc players can read the disc...



Burn Folder 2012-11-29 09:11:10 -----------------------------------------------

09:11:10 Info RootDir: C:/Users/Owner/Documents/DVDFab/Temp/MainMovie/SURFING3D/

09:11:10 Info VolumeName: SURFING3D

09:11:10 Info WriteMode: 4

09:11:10 Error No enough space to hold data. 11891552 > 11826176

09:11:11 Info Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 02:06:13

[glenns]

Well because you files didn't burn to the disk their should be no new movie on the rewritable disk as fab didn't do the burn but fab did do the compression job.Thats why your players didn't see the new movie if fab did the burn like mine did then they most likely would play the new movie.Just do the burn by making a iso out of the main movie folder then img burn will burn the whole compressed movie on the rewritable disk even if the end credits get cut then you will see that your computer and other players will work.Now one thing your seeing wrong just because windows can't see the burned disk or blank disk in your case because their was no burn it doesn't mean fab can't see the compressed file it made in the main movie folder.Just make a iso out of it put it back in fab and use write.

First drag it into main movie then change it to write after the movie is dragged into main movie but change the output from your burner to a clone file in fab by clicking the box to targets right i think its a blu thing then open fab with it and click iso folder as target so fab will make a iso of the file in main movie and then put it in the iso folder this won't take but a few Min's.when done your file will be a iso not a folder then put it in img burn if its to big then write till end of disk or overburn and out comes a full 3d copy that should work on computer and players.