Cinavia Fix?

[Emoto]

External USB Blu-Ray drive connected to 2014 Panasonic Player?

Has anyone tried plugging a powered external Blu-ray drive (something like this, for example: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Portable-Bl...+blu-ray+drive )into a cinavia-enabled Blu-Ray player, such as a 2014 Panasonic via USB cable? For $50, it looks like a good solution, if it works without the player interfering with the audio stream. (I mean for playing a backup of a cinavia disc.)

[MrVideo]

Indeed, all the before and after examples I've heard sound awful

Oh well, thanks for the update.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Cinavia has been broken, back in April. Google cinavia to view the web page with the details.

I've read a lot of talk about this. But nothing that offers any decent audible quality. Indeed, all the before and after examples I've heard sound awful

[MrVideo]

Cinavia has been broken, back in April. Google cinavia to view the web page with the details.

So, when is DVDFab going to finally remove cinavia as well?

[glenns]

I am finding some 25 gig 3d disks not playing well with the optical drive connected to the media player so overall this is not the best way to play full 3d disks or regular java encoded disks.The side by side 3d doe's work well.

[MrVideo]

While I do not have any standalone players that are affected by Cinavia, I took a look anyway.

You'll soon find out that it doesn't work with m2ts files.

[SuperMan]

I tried CinX

I tried this program called cinx and it removed any cinavia messages I had on my video files. mayve you should look into it. not sure if we can post links but you should be able to search for it.

[glenns]

Same here The last stand will not play on the optical drive connected to my media player but if I plug it into the computer it works with Powerdvd 11.

Powerdvd 11 says it doesn't support the use of a mouse on this movie so the software supply's it's own solution a on screen control.

I don't understand why the Micca's software doesn't control the disk as it has it's own menu system for playing back movies that aren't java version 1 menus.This can be selected in software by selecting auto play then ask every time so you can use the Micca's own menu system.

Maybe they need to release new firmware for it.I read they are shipping new units with software not on their internet page version 106.3 so maybe they will post it soon i am waiting for a email response from them to confirm this.Their last update was sept 12th of last year so they are overdue so far their was 4 updates to the firmware on their internet page.

[SuperFist]

I have problems playing regular store bought BD-Java Blu-rays in my optical drive. But it doesn't bother me because before I even purchased the drive, I was resigned with the fact that it would be used strictly for back-ups; that is, if I don't wish to put them on a HDD, which isn't likely since I rarely burn discs anymore.

[glenns]

Part 3 using a optical drive with a media player

Part 3 using a optical player plugged into a 3d media player to defeat Cinavia and to play 3d movie disks.

As we learned in parts one and two of using this setup to defeat and play Cinavia blu ray disks that indeed this does work for this defeating Cinavia and also work to play 3d disks made with Fab in most 3d formats although i had some trouble with 50 gig iso's the 25 gig full 3d and 3d side by side worked fine.

What didn't work to my surprise is using a 3d store brought disk and playing on my 3d optical drive plugged into my Micca EP600 G-2 3d media player.I tried both the 2.0 and 3.0 sata to UBS cable's with no luck and the internal connection built in to the side of the media player none worked with a store brought 3d disk all 2d disks were fine.

[Jeffie]

Thanks for the reply but I had no idea if the player had a specific limitation that allowed such a low price based on ignoring the specifications.

The seller did respond that the low-end players are backwards compatible.

[glenns]

UBS 3.0 is backward compatible with 2.0 and 1.0 with type A connectors the kind we are all use to on our computers and devices it's part of the spec.

Their are 3.0 connectors with different ends on them but are used for different things.Here is a link explaining everything in detail.

http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/usb_3_explained.html

[Jeffie]

...I believe you will need to plug it into your media player to be cinavia free or use it with a computer and software player that's cinavia free.

I would think you could also plug it into a cinavia infected Blu-ray/DVD player via a USB connection. Of the devices in your ebay link, only two (the most expensive) show they are backwards compatible to slower USB speeds.

If the cheaper models aren't backwards compatible and your infected player can't handle 3.0, I wouldn't expect it to work.

FWIW - I contacted the seller asking if the cheaper drives are backwards compatible. I will post back when I receive an answer.

[glenns]

Another user sent me a PM with some $46-$73 dollars solutions to the Cinavia problem 6x external 3.0 blu ray player with 3d playback and burns dvd's for $46 and a blu ray burner 6x external 3.0 UBS that burns blu rays with 3d playback.These are 5 volt low power drives.(6x speed for bd-r's)
These are made and shipped from China free.I believe you will need to plug it into your media player to be cinavia free or use it with a computer and software player that's cinavia free.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=external+blu+ray+drives+with+3.0+ubs+cable&_sacat=0&_from=R40

[glenns]

Part two using Micca media player to take out cinavia and play 3d films by plugging in a optical 3d blu ray player into it using a Sata to UBS cable and power supply.

First I used 2.0 Sata to UBS cable comes with a plug in power supply 12 volts at 2 amps and 5 volts at 2 amps $12.95 from New egg.

Second I used a 3.0 sata to UBS cable with a 12 volt at 2 amps power supply for $30.00 at New Egg.This unit has a high speed UBS cable that has two USB plugs pigtailed on 1 wire so if you need to draw more power you could attach one end into your media player and the other end into your computer to draw extra power from your computers power supply.I didn't have to do this but i tried it anyway and didn't seem to make a difference i could see.But for long term use it may be advisable as it may keep the power supply from burning out long term as the setup below confirms.

Third i used the built in to my 3d media player Sata connection and supplied Sata to Ubs connector wire.I had trouble with the remotes command to open and close the disk tray when using this connection what would happen is the tray will open then close right away because of this and the power supply for the Micca is just 12 volts at 2 amps and another user with the same unit told me after using them for a while the Micca's power supply will burn out because it over taxes it by being used to power both units.This connection on the Micca is really for a Sata hard drive that seems to use less power than a optical drive.

So all 3 connections worked fine with regular blu rays and the set up is not effected with Cinavia effected disks.

And for playing 3d disks yes Virgina their is a Santa clause because all 3 of the above setups played 3d disks.I did have to take a Firmware upgrade for the optical drive as it didn't play side by side 3d data disks and I can't understand why as most of mine were on db9 and db5 regular dvd's except a few that were on blu rays.The upgrade was to make blu rays play better so go figure.

Now their were a few glitches along the way at one point the player was not playing 50 gig fab made iso's ejecting the tray saying they were bad disks and i knew they were iso's made as backups on new disks only played once on my old play station (Now trash) to see if the burn was good.

Well their seems to be times when weird things like this happen rebooting the media player or unplugging it then replugging it back in solves this problem.Sometimes theirs a pink background just stopping the media player then starting it back up solves this.

Their is a upgrade to the media player that may solve these glitches that happen only every now and then i don't want to use it because hd dolby digital doesn't work with my media player and my receiver if I take the firmware upgrade for the media player.I don't know why this is.

Support tells me it's not happening with other users.I think their lying they only have so much memory on the device and i think other improvements means taken out something to make room so Dolby Hd went because its only on a few films these are my thoughts only here I could be wrong.

Their are 2 other upgrades to my Micca from the 103.09 version of their firmware I am using.The Micca can be flashed backwards or forwards in firmware so i did try the latest firmware for a few tests not long enough to see if the little bugs were gone as like I said I get no Dolby digital hd with the other versions of software and everything is converted to PCM and yes the Micca is set to output RAW audio my receiver does all the decoding and tells you what the soundtrack is hd dolby,dts hd etc but not with the other firmware it just seems to convert everything to PCM audio like the old PlayStation did to be able to play 3d hd audio.

During the first part of this review i was having trouble with a 3d blu ray i was using for the test Transformersark side of the moon it has a 7.1 dolby hd soundtrack so i thought it would be great for the test turns out this disk played back with glitch's plus audio dropouts that's why i figured i needed the 3.0 hi speed sata connection but I was wrong it was a bad disk i re-burned the disk and it played back fine in 3d without drop outs even with the 2.0 connection.

On the disks with seamless branching such as Wreck it Ralph 50 gig iso their was very slight glitches where one file ends and another starts but i don't think this is the set ups fault as my iso on the media drive doe's do this as well even as a side by side 3d data file made from it.

I tested fab made 50 and 25 gig iso disks both 2d and 3d and side by side 3d data disks db9,db5 and on blu rays with many different versions of Fab.I tested with hd dolby digital,hd dts and regular versions of their audio and also with 7.1 sound tracks all played fine.

Their were a few disks that didn't play back in 3d The smurfs full 3d 25 gigs and Toy story full 3d 25 gigs these i don't know why they didn't play in 3d unless they were made bad.They do play in 2d.

I didn't test with store brought 3ds that will happen at a latter date.