DVD Ripper 8.1.5.9qt Sync Audio/Video Problem

[jbinkley60]

Tonight I experimented with ripping regular DVDs to something other than VOB passthroughs. I would like to rip them m2ts files using the m2ts.ac3.high_quality profile. When I use it, I am seeing the exact same type of problem the Blu-Ray ripper had up until release 8.1.5.2, the audio/video get progressively out of sync towards the end of the rip. I also tried the m2ts.audiocopy.high_quality profile and see the same thing. With the VOB passthrough profile the audio/video remain in sync.

Here's the logs for the two m2ts and the VOB passthrough rip.

DVDFab 8.1.5.9 (2012/01/23 18:23:08)

0m 01.60s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 01.79s: Load config successful.
0m 01.87s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 03.99s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 03.99s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 03.99s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2dvd:file2bluray:file2mobile:
0m 04.18s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 04.18s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 04.30s: dvd2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 04.89s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 04.92s: blu-ray2mobile have 17 elements.
0m 05.30s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 05.42s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 05.46s: file2mobile have 27 elements.
0m 06.05s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 06.06s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 06.33s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 06.42s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 06.50s: StartNotify successful.
0m 06.77s: detected dvd
0m 06.84s: drive X
0m 06.85s: dvd type 1
0m 06.85s: volume label IDES_OF_MARCH
0m 07.20s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 07.73s: got udf/iso
0m 11.53s: got discinfo
0m 11.55s: pathplayer enabled
0m 23.31s: got dvdinfo
0m 23.31s: opened dvd
0m 43.57s: detected dvd
0m 43.62s: drive X
0m 43.62s: dvd type 1
0m 43.62s: volume label IDES_OF_MARCH
0m 43.77s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 45.32s: got udf/iso
0m 49.16s: got discinfo
0m 49.17s: pathplayer enabled
0m 00.89s: got dvdinfo
0m 00.89s: opened dvd
0m 39.14s:



------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 21.03s: info: create config(0)
0m 21.03s: info: convert profile(m2ts.ac3.high_quality)
0m 21.03s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->16),3D(0)
0m 21.03s: info: streams((480.2)(128.2))
0m 21.32s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
0m 21.32s: source audio(86019,6,16,48000) is the same as output audio(bitrate 640000), passthrough it
0m 21.86s: CUDA GPU acceleration for video encoding enabled
0m 21.86s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(6500)
0m 19.53s:


------ finish mobile work ------


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 30.91s: info: create config(0)
0m 30.91s: info: convert profile(m2ts.audiocopy.high_quality)
0m 30.91s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->16),3D(0)
0m 30.91s: info: streams((480.2)(128.1))
0m 30.94s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
0m 31.29s: CUDA GPU acceleration for video encoding enabled
0m 31.29s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(9011)
0m 57.16s:


------ finish mobile work ------

------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 22.98s: info: create config(1)
0m 22.98s: info: convert profile(vob.passthrough)
0m 22.98s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->16),3D(0)
0m 22.98s: info: streams((480.1)(128.1))
0m 32.62s:


------ finish mobile work ------

[CBR929]

Hi jbinkley60
Do you have the same sync problems with Cuda turned off ????

[jbinkley60]

I turned off CUDA and the result was the same.

DVDFab 8.1.5.9 (2012/01/24 05:09:24)

0m 01.99s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 02.18s: Load config successful.
0m 02.26s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 04.44s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 04.44s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 04.44s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 04.61s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 04.61s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 04.72s: dvd2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 05.33s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 05.35s: blu-ray2mobile have 17 elements.
0m 05.72s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 05.85s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 05.86s: file2mobile have 27 elements.
0m 06.45s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 06.47s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 06.72s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 06.88s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 06.92s: StartNotify successful.
0m 22.77s: pathplayer enabled
0m 58.32s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 58.32s: info: create config(0)
0m 58.32s: info: convert profile(m2ts.ac3.high_quality)
0m 58.32s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->16),3D(0)
0m 58.32s: info: streams((480.2)(128.2))
0m 58.34s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
0m 58.34s: source audio(86019,6,16,48000) is the same as output audio(bitrate 448000), passthrough it
0m 00.64s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(6500)
0m 25.16s:


------ finish mobile work ------

[jbinkley60]

In doing more testing, the problem has gone away. I've verified the settings are the same but in testing 5 more DVDs, including the originals when the problem was occurring, the sync problem is gone. I am not exactly sure what changed but I'll continue trying to reproduce it again. The rips I have successfully completed are great. The m2ts format is so much better for my Netgear streamer box than VOBs.

[jbinkley60]

Ok, after much more testing, I've been able to recreate the problem. It appears to be related to specific DVDs and how the video is formatted. The two which consistently fail are The Other Guys and Clueless. Below are the Mediainfo outputs from two that fail consistently with sync issues between the video and the audio when using any of the m2ts formats. VOBs are fine with both.

General
Complete name : V:\DVD Images\CLUELESS\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 1mn 47s
Overall bit rate : 80.1 Mbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Duration : 1mn 46s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 77.7 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 9.372
Stream size : 989 MiB (97%)

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 1mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -687ms
Stream size : 2.45 MiB (0%)

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 1mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -719ms
Stream size : 5.73 MiB (1%)

Audio #3
ID : 189 (0xBD)-130 (0x82)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 1mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -687ms
Stream size : 2.45 MiB (0%)

Text #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 1mn 42s
Delay relative to video : 2s 703ms

Text #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-34 (0x22)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 1mn 42s
Delay relative to video : 2s 703ms

Text #3
ID : 224 (0xE0)-DVD-2
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

==============================================
General
Complete name : V:\DVD Images\THE_OTHER_GUYS\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 3mn 43s
Overall bit rate : 38.4 Mbps
Writing library : encoded by TMPGEnc (ver. 2.524.63.181)

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Duration : 3mn 43s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 36.9 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.560
Stream size : 983 MiB (96%)
Writing library : TMPGEnc 2.524.63.181

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 3mn 43s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -240ms
Stream size : 10.2 MiB (1%)

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 3mn 43s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -240ms
Stream size : 10.2 MiB (1%)

Text #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #3
ID : 189 (0xBD)-34 (0x22)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #4
ID : 189 (0xBD)-35 (0x23)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Menu

[jbinkley60]

I've continued to do more testing and am seeing a direct correlation between when Media Info shows the odd video bitrate values and when DVDFab gets out of sync between the audio and video. If Media Info says a DVD is in the normal 3900 to 6500 kbps DVDfab will rip with the m2ts profiles fine. If is comes up with the high values like these and another dozen I have tested, the audio and video will be out of sync with m2ts profiles. In all cases the VOB profile works fine.

[Kez]

Am wondering if it is the variable bit rate encoding that is causing the issue. Are the movies that do encode ok variable bit rate or constant? Maybe you could you post the MediaInfo for one of those movies that does works ok?

[jbinkley60]

It isn't the variable bit rate. Here's a couple I just completed and they were fine.


General
Complete name : V:\DVD Images\DOGMA\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 32mn 25s
Overall bit rate : 4 414 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Duration : 32mn 25s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 750 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.362
Stream size : 870 MiB (85%)

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 32mn 25s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 89.1 MiB (9%)

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 32mn 25s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 44.5 MiB (4%)

Text #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 32mn 20s
Delay relative to video : 3s 104ms

Text #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-34 (0x22)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 32mn 20s
Delay relative to video : 3s 104ms

Text #3
ID : 224 (0xE0)-DVD-2
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #4
ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

=====================================

General
Complete name : V:\DVD Images\THE_WHOLE_NINE_YARDS\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 25mn 59s
Overall bit rate : 5 508 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Duration : 25mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 439 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 7 500 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.429
Stream size : 825 MiB (81%)

Audio #1
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 25mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -67ms
Stream size : 71.4 MiB (7%)

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 25mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -67ms
Stream size : 71.4 MiB (7%)

Audio #3
ID : 189 (0xBD)-130 (0x82)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 25mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -67ms
Stream size : 35.7 MiB (3%)

Text #1
ID : 224 (0xE0)-DVD-2
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #3
ID : 189 (0xBD)-33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #4
ID : 189 (0xBD)-34 (0x22)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Text #5
ID : 189 (0xBD)-35 (0x23)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Muxing mode : DVD-Video

Menu

[jbinkley60]

I've retested with 8.1.6.1 qt on a few different DVDs. If I turn off CUDA and use software only, the audio and video are almost perfectly in sync. You can still see a slight sync problem at the end where the audio leads the video. If I turn CUDA on it is more pronounced but not nearly as much as 8.1.5.9 . So 8.1.6 1qt is much better but we're not quite there yet.

Again it is only on DVDs where Mediainfo shows the unusual bitrates for the DVD,a s mentioned above. I've tried various versions of the m2ts profiles including AC3, audiocopy, normal, high quality etc. The behavior is consistent. VOB passthrough works fine on everything and m2ts works fine on anything with a normal bitrate on Mediainfo.

[jbinkley60]

I retested with 8.1.6.2 and am still seeing a sync issue when ripping certain DVDs with the m2ts profiles. This was another test of the Clueless DVD.

DVDFab 8.1.6.2 (2012/02/10 18:48:13)

0m 10.28s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 10.64s: Load config successful.
0m 11.28s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 17.55s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 17.55s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 17.56s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 17.75s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 17.75s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 17.88s: dvd2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 18.50s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 18.52s: blu-ray2mobile have 17 elements.
0m 18.89s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 19.02s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 19.05s: file2mobile have 27 elements.
0m 19.67s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 19.69s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 19.97s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 20.34s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 20.42s: StartNotify successful.
0m 51.81s: pathplayer enabled
0m 19.53s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 19.53s: info: create config(0)
0m 19.53s: info: convert profile(m2ts.audiocopy.high_quality)
0m 19.53s: info: dvd playlist(1),angle(0),chapter(1->16),3D(0)
0m 19.53s: info: streams((480.2)(129.1))
0m 19.55s: info: set output video frame_rate(24000/1001)
0m 19.56s: try to use gpu acceleration(1) for video decoding
0m 19.56s: CUDA GPU acceleration for video decoding enabled
0m 19.56s: CUDA GPU acceleration for video encoding enabled
0m 19.56s: info: h264_encode: encode param profile(2) level(41) bitrate(5500)
0m 19.48s:


------ finish mobile work ------

[CBR929]

Hi jbinkley60
If you turn off Cuda do you have the same results?
CBR929

[jbinkley60]

I was able to turn off CUDA and finally get 3 rips that were fully in sync for these with oddball bitrates being reported by Mediainfo. It is very sensitive. I can make minor profile changes and get them out of sync again. I am trying to determine which exact setting is causing it. Turning CUDA off definetly makes a difference, as it did with 8.1.61.