Elysium - no forced subtitles

mycom

I have tried to rip Elysium but the forced subtitles are not showing. Is this a bug in 9.1.1.9 or am I not setting it correctly? I am checking the "Display only forced Subtitle" and the "English Normal".

colossus71

There are two English sub tracks for the Spanish parts at the beginning of the movie. Select the second track and 'display only forced'. This should get you straight.

mycom

[QUOTE=colossus71;154717]There are two English sub tracks for the Spanish parts at the beginning of the movie. Select the second track and 'display only forced'. This should get you straight.[/QUOTE]
I am using Version 9.1.1.9 (latest one). I have tried using the "Display only forced Subtitle" separately with the "English normal" and "English normal caption" and I still don't see the English subtitles for the Spanish sections near the start of the show.

Please let me know if I'm doing something wrong in my settings. Have you successfully done the Rip and were able to see the forced subtitles?

geilee

[QUOTE=mycom;154682]I have tried to rip Elysium but the forced subtitles are not showing. Is this a bug in 9.1.1.9 or am I not setting it correctly? I am checking the "Display only forced Subtitle" and the "English Normal".[/QUOTE]

You are right for your setting! :)
But please make sure that is there force subtitles in this movie, and which player do you use?

mycom

There is forced subtitles in yellow text near the start of the show when they are speaking in Spanish. No matter what settings I use, I can never get them to show up.

akadennis

[QUOTE=mycom;154771]There is forced subtitles in yellow text near the start of the show when they are speaking in Spanish. No matter what settings I use, I can never get them to show up.[/QUOTE]

I see them fine but for some reason the font/text is blurry. Any idea why this is? It's not blurry on the actual movie.

colossus71

I have the same issue with 'blocky' subs in Elysium. (see: )

Using MKV profile I had to remux the second English track (w/forced only). This is the only way I could get the sub text to display correctly.

omatsei

[QUOTE=colossus71;154956]I have the same issue with 'blocky' subs in Elysium. (see: )

Using MKV profile I had to remux the second English track (w/forced only). This is the only way I could get the sub text to display correctly.[/QUOTE]

I've tried selecting only Forced Subtitles and remux into file with PGS format, but my file comes out with no subtitles at all. I'm only testing using the first chapter... do I need to rip the entire thing?

bdg

I am also having the same issue. I have the latest version 9.1.1.9 I have tried all the suggestions but the forced subtitles do not seem to work at all with Elysium.

lixichen

Elysium Forced Subtitle

[QUOTE=omatsei;155315]I've tried selecting only Forced Subtitles and remux into file with PGS format, but my file comes out with no subtitles at all. I'm only testing using the first chapter... do I need to rip the entire thing?[/QUOTE]

You can try this time period video, to see if there is forced subtitles
I will check this problem as soon as possible.
Thank you very much !

1
00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,396
Come on!

2
00:02:27,564 --> 00:02:30,232
Don't keep the Sisters waiting.

3
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This is Frey.

4
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She's new here as well.

5
00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:48,125
Can you read?

6
00:02:53,924 --> 00:02:56,926
It's a giraffe. They were from Africa.

7
00:02:57,219 --> 00:02:59,261
- You can read?
- Yes.

8
00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:32,378
Max, have you been
stealing things again?

9
00:03:34,464 --> 00:03:38,718
It breaks my heart. Why do you do this?

10
00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:41,303
So you can save up?

11
00:03:41,471 --> 00:03:44,640
One day buy a ticket up to that place?

12
00:03:56,820 --> 00:04:00,281
That place is not for you, or for me.

13
00:04:01,491 --> 00:04:03,367
But it's not fair, Sister.

14
00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:05,161
Why can't I go there?

15
00:04:05,328 --> 00:04:07,329
Sometimes in life
we don't understand...

16
00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:09,999
...why things are the way they are.

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But I know one thing.

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I know you are special.

19
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You will do something
very important one day.

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Something you were born for.

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My little Max.

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00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,233
Make the world a better place.

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00:05:43,593 --> 00:05:46,679
I can finally buy my ticket to Elysium.

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00:06:09,578 --> 00:06:11,328
Leave me alone!

25
00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:18,779
Burn her ID!

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00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:30,309
My, how you've grown!

27
00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:32,811
Are the children here?

28
00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:34,313
Yes, with Dominica.

29
00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,857
I have a present for you.

30
00:13:38,026 --> 00:13:39,860
Go and get it with your mother.

31
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It's next to the couch.

32
00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:05,690
Only one made it.

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00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:36,216
What happened?

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00:23:23,152 --> 00:23:26,112
They started the fight, Sister.

35
00:23:27,448 --> 00:23:29,365
I just want to live there.

36
00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:34,203
You see how beautiful it looks to us
from here?

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00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:36,998
Yes.

38
00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,168
Well...

39
00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:43,713
Now look how beautiful we look
from there.

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00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:47,300
Keep it.

41
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:49,844
This is yours now.

42
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:54,349
To never forget about
where you come from.

43
00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:04,763
You have work to do, Mr. Carlyle.

44
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:44,381
He's awake!

45
00:43:03,331 --> 00:43:05,373
I'm shitting my pants.

46
01:38:54,679 --> 01:38:57,347
Everyone has one special thing, Max.

47
01:38:58,433 --> 01:39:00,517
One thing that they are destined to do.

48
01:39:01,477 --> 01:39:03,728
One thing they were born for.

49
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:32,544
You see how beautiful it looks to us
from here?

50
01:41:33,087 --> 01:41:36,214
Now look how beautiful
we look from there.

51
01:41:36,507 --> 01:41:38,216
This is yours now.

52
01:41:39,135 --> 01:41:42,846
To never forget about
where you come from.

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01:41:55,276 --> 01:41:56,901
My little Max.

bdg

I forgot to mention I'm ripping to mp4 not sure if this helps at all

bdg

Any update on this issue?

signals

I think you will find that if you select 'Direct render to video' it will work flawlessly. I will check my copy of Elysium tomorrow and post the results here.

signals

They work fine (MKV/Remux into file) on any software player on a PC, they do not work with any of the hardware media players that I currently have installed. The 'Direct Render to Video' subs option works perfectly on any player of course. To duplicate the theatrical exhibition of the film, use that option. Hopefully DVDFab can do something to the remux option in Ripper to make them show in hardware players as well.

signals

[QUOTE=omatsei;155315]I've tried selecting only Forced Subtitles and remux into file with PGS format, but my file comes out with no subtitles at all. I'm only testing using the first chapter... do I need to rip the entire thing?[/QUOTE]No, I tested it using the first chapter only. I selected forced subs on the title options page, not the one in Common Settings. The second English stream is correct.

GregiBoy

One thing that may be helping to cause all this confusion is that PGS Subtitles (BluRay) are not officially supported when muxed into the MP4 container.

Neither is SUB/IDX (DVD) but there was a Nero hack that allowed it.

Most hardware & software players subscribe to the official MP4 specs, not the hacked Nero or Apple miscarriages.

Besides this, the studios assist the confusion by not adhering to any standard making it extremely difficult for Fab to even make an educated guess.

glenns

Once again this will not work correct on two software players that I know of making a MKV using passthrough.

VLC player will play a few of the subs not all and it will flash some up so fast you can't read them.This player gets them wrong no matter how many times you test it.The complete list of sub titles for Elysium is posted in the Capt.Phillips topic get them and do the test with the 1st chapter you will see it just doesn't work with this software player.

Power dvd 11 doesn't work at all no subtitles are recorded what so ever.
Settings are exactly as signals says using no black arrow,checking the second set of subs and checking forced in the pull down and the other forced subs in Fab settings unchecked remux subs into file and PGS subtitles.I spent many hours testing this with the same results for these two software players.

glenns

Did a MP4 same settings this time VLC gets it correct BUT YOU MUST TURN THEM ON they don't play by themselves.When you turn them on only the forced subs will play.

Powerdvd 11 gets it wrong no audio or subtitles when you call the onscreen settings up with the remote but the audio does play.

Micca media player plays the video choppy while the audio plays normal no subtitles.Elysium full disk blu ray tested region 1 or A.

GregiBoy

@glens

I don't fart around with all this if I really want subs.

I just do a full disk copy to the HDD, and make a MKV with NO subs.

I then extract the subs I want from the HDD disk copy.

I then mux them back into the MKV with MKVmerge marking forced, etc where appropriate.

I usually end up with a Sub Structure like this in the MKV.

Sub 1. English Forced Subs
Sub 2. English - Full Subs
Sub 3. Spanish Full Subs
Sub 4. Indonesian Subs

glenns

Wizard of oz: Yes but your a wizard theirs members that would like a Fab solution and a simple way to do it.Your way would not be simple to most newer user's and those that are use to having the subs play correctly.

Theirs also those who asked for it to work with the Micca media player using only Fab.I heard the peoples cry for help a lot goes on behind the main forum in PM's also.I came up with a workaround for this using only Fab.

It's quite different from normal and somewhat shocking for some people to understand but sometimes thinking outside the box help's like i did with this workaround by going against all logic and using the extract to idx setting and using it on a blu ray to get forced subs to work for the Micca media player.This way may also work with other media players.So I have a solution or workaround for MKV and the Micca media player.

The full disk will work in Powerdvd11 software player with forced subs so I can use that to play from computer using Signals solution.